WG/Strategies/Ideas/Meeting/4 Nov 2011
IDEAS WORKING GROUP PUBLIC DISCUSSION 11/4
Forest –overview of what the ideas group is—not decision makers, but aiming to create times and spaces for discussion *Want to create the right structures that would allow people to start initiatives on their own-working groups, task forces. *We don’t talk about ideas, we talk about facilitating discussion.
Marty—Tonight’s discussion-- experiment with open space *The premise is that everyone has something to bring to the table--whoever comes, are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that could have, when it starts is the right time, when its over its over. loosely structure topics, then invite you all to prompt discussion *“Law of two feet” –don’t like the discussion, must use their feet to move to a more productive place. Invite a stack system, Introduce the three points of discussion and then start--this meeting has three themes—overall strategy for occupy boston, specific actions and tactics, addressing the growing divisions in our movement/promoting Unity in our movement.
Forest—This is also in regards to online offline, onsite, offsite, seeing and doing divides.
Marty—Introduction of marker and paper, idea of stepping into different spots for discussion
((Interruption))—Announcement about stolen green fly and orange footprint of tent, camper traveling from Canada—contact info at Logistics.
((Interruption))—Man talking about Mitt Romney, fall river, paper clips on the poor’s teeth(?) Want to organize a “strike team” about this.
Duncan—Want to discuss shift from old paradigm to new paradigm ((distinguished location for small discussion))
Oryan (sp?) – Want to have a discussion on unity – functionally—look at spokes-council model @ occupy wall street—could talk more broadly about this—discussion on functional unity
((distinguished location for small discussion))
Chris – Marching to the school board meeting and protesting the closing of schools –connect with more local issues—especially poor working class and communities of color—local issues action ((distinguished location for small discussion))
Individual –talk about the camp itself to increase communication—to help us all get along a little better—((went to oryans group with functional unity))
Tom – in the labor working group—forming more practical links with labor groups—interested in occupy oakland resolution supporting the occupation of foreclosed properties—may fit in with local issues, fits in with anti-oppression ((opted to join local issue group)) Forest—temp check to see if everyone had a group they wanted to meet with—looked good
((Individual Discussion groups:
Group 1– old paradigm/new paradigm
Group 2—functional unity
Group 3– local issue action))
Individual – has anybody planned for thanksgiving— Marty—Point of information-- we are invited to the American Indian national day of mourning—more info available….Remember the law of two feet – move freely!
((Small group discussions split off ))
((Small group discussions report back))
Two Individuals representing Group 3 - local issues Occupy the DOE success in NY—“it was beautiful” Defending foreclosures—we need to organize a working group around this—intent to come to GA on Sunday with a statement and proposal on it
((Point of Information)) – vida urbana Response– meeting with them on Monday--Occupy Oakland passed a res in their GA—we support the occupation of foreclosed properties—“if there are people without homes, there should not be homes without people”
POI – there is an existing listserv that sends out announcements – foreclosure defense Monday meetings
POI – SF has a service that is basically mass text message – we could use this
(RECORDED DIALOGUE TO BE TRANSCRIBED...)
**NOTES ON POSTERS**
Local Issues & Actions Poster Notes:
Living wages/working conditions
GA Resolution in solidarity w/people facing foreclosure/bank action, encouraging such people to contact #OB-- #OB will join other orgs in mobilizing people to defend others in foreclosed homes
Ambassadors/Delegates from #OB to attend community meetings (like school committee meetings)
(mobilizations to such meetings, & mic-check to disrupt/make statement, joined by community members?)
Occupying public spaces/buildings (like public representatives/politicians offices) & opening them up for GA’s/consensus/true democracy—GA in city hall?
Walking picket lines getting involved in local labor issues
Occupying empty/foreclosed homes?
Phone # for emergency foreclosure assistance
Campaign for “vacancy tax” to prevent foreclosed homes from sitting vacant
Pressure on sheriff’s departments to keep them from enforcing evictions?
Work w/City Life but as broader coalition?
Old paradigm/New Paradigm Poster Notes (written as an idea map):
Old paradigm/New Paradigm
Realization of collective consciousness
Everyone has a place
Greater awareness of interdependence
Finding a path of love
Transformation of species
Come from the heart
Occupations are manifestation machines
People need to come to terms with change
Some people do not understand that humans are not inherently bad
Moving past domination
Moving towards cooperation
Different societies have different tendencies
Realizing our commonality
We’re all in this together
Big shift coming to a head
Inreach convincing each other of our common goals
Big picture common denominator
Less value on work (“success”)
Unity Group Poster Notes:
UNITY… Functional groups
Campers Passive but concerned—mobilizable Web interactions—wiki, boards
Trying to come at key moments
Framework Moblize, make decisions
Passing things in GA—hard, now near impossible
Interactions with other occupy groups
There is unity….Brendan
Spokesperson Perceived as fractioned—come out with mission
How could spokes-model aid long-distance participation?
Constellation & spokesperson model compatible
Frustration with communication/ability to get involved
Boycotts effective, Demands→success
Laboratory for democracy
Not easy (external communications) → wiki Get mission statement → GA ideas process
Give options for how to get involved
Demoralized, no solution evident, keeps people away
Goal—open the discussion
Frag→ stay open & friendly
Reps to Philly, july 4, 2012
Not enough doers, no project managers….can’t just say this is broken…not democracy
Constellation? Model for social change
Consensus/new process is a demand
Problems only unify to a point