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		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=13967</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
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		<updated>2012-04-11T19:11:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''This working group is on hold until we can develop the momentum to take it on.  In the mean time, please consider looking to the Facilitation Working Group or others to discuss GA process and purpose.'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/gapap&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meetings alternate Monday and Friday at 5pm.  Next meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
* Friday, March 16, 5pm.  City Place / Transportation Building&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Current action items:&lt;br /&gt;
* Start developing a survey&lt;br /&gt;
* Get feedback from mailing list folks as to whether they want to come to meetings, or just to listen to progress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Past meeting minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar12]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- [[Category:Working groups]] commented out to unlist. --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=13966</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=13966"/>
		<updated>2012-04-11T19:10:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''This working group is on hold until we can develop the momentum to take it on.  In the mean time, please consider looking to the Facilitation Working Group or others to discuss GA process and purpose.'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/gapap&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meetings alternate Monday and Friday at 5pm.  Next meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
* Friday, March 16, 5pm.  City Place / Transportation Building&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Current action items:&lt;br /&gt;
* Start developing a survey&lt;br /&gt;
* Get feedback from mailing list folks as to whether they want to come to meetings, or just to listen to progress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Past meeting minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar12]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=13411</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=13411"/>
		<updated>2012-03-13T14:39:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Meeting Time */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/gapap&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meetings alternate Monday and Friday at 5pm.  Next meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
* Friday, March 16, 5pm.  City Place / Transportation Building&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Current action items:&lt;br /&gt;
* Start developing a survey&lt;br /&gt;
* Get feedback from mailing list folks as to whether they want to come to meetings, or just to listen to progress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Past meeting minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar12]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GAPaP/2012Mar12&amp;diff=13410</id>
		<title>GAPaP/2012Mar12</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GAPaP/2012Mar12&amp;diff=13410"/>
		<updated>2012-03-13T14:36:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: Created page with &amp;quot;= GA Process and Purpose, March 12 2012 =  Location: City Place / Transportation Building  Time: 5pm-7pm  Participants: 4  == When can we meet? ==  The calendar's hard.  Meet Mon...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;= GA Process and Purpose, March 12 2012 =&lt;br /&gt;
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Location: City Place / Transportation Building&lt;br /&gt;
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Time: 5pm-7pm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Participants: 4&lt;br /&gt;
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== When can we meet? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The calendar's hard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meet Monday, or Friday, or both, or alternate?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CONSENSUS REACHED: Let's alternate.  Tonight's the first Monday.  We'll meet again this Friday at 5pm, then alternate Mondays and Fridays at 5pm from there out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== How are we different from Facilitation Working Group? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some people from facilitation aren't here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some people not on facilitation have expressed interest.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should we send a notice asking people if they're involved in setting a time to meet, or if they just want to be aware of what's going on?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Consensus working group seems to not really be meeting...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As I see it, the purpose of this group is to directly look at the data and concerns from the GA about GA's, to draw from those to propose potential changes to the GA sturcture.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It would be odd, if we're all on facilitation, to propose things directy to the GA and not propose things to Facilitation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm sensitive to that -- it seems like spokes, consensus, and others are covering similar territory.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm interested in not just decision process, but also the other things that happen in GA.  Have fun, discussions, maybe change the number of GA's per week.  We could talk about the purpose -- why do we have GA's?  And ideally, what we'd like them to be?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is the role that GA is providing for the community?  Is it more a social experience, or a decision making place?  Does it make sense to leave the 2 coupled?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we only had 1 or 2 GA's a week... one on Tuesday, one on Saturday... the weekend could be longer, a pot-luck dinner, and have discussions built in.  Small group breakouts, and a sequence of events, and proposals part of it, but maybe not the main thing.  What would hep that is having different process for different kinds of proposals.  Maybe a short quick proposals as part of a long sequence of events, and then another set for longer, ideological proposals.  Facilitation was talking about posting agendas in advance to see if people feel like they want to come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm wondering what this will look like when we start meeting outside.  Now that weather is getting warmer, there are going to be lots of events booked.  No-one wants to go back to Dewey.... People have talked about temporary occupations all around.  Is that where the GA is?  If so, we'd have to be on top of it, because the GA would keep moving around.  I don't know if we could pull off a potluck without knowing the space in advance and what it would look like.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do we need permits to go to commons or parks?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No -- but if people there have reserved space and we try to use it, they're going to get on our case.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitation has become like a job to me.  I'm feeling burnout.  I see a lot of burnout right now.  Everyone things the spring is going to change everything.  I hope it does; but if it doesn't, we'll have some really disappointed people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we could figure out the problem of where to do this, does that sound like something that's worth thinking about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(General agreement).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Drop to 2 general assemblies per week, one of them a longer meeting on a weekend with a putluck brunch &lt;br /&gt;
* Have different formats: discussion, quick proposals, longer proposals&lt;br /&gt;
* Figure out a way to post agendas in advance, so people know if they need to come&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Looking at OWS's early proposal process...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I wish we could do a pop-up occupation like OWS does.  I've been thinking of where a good place to do that would be...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was annoyed that even at Dewey, we didn't know what was coming up that night.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Arguments against advanced notice:&lt;br /&gt;
* Things come up late.&lt;br /&gt;
* Where do you post it?&lt;br /&gt;
* It doesn't fit with our process of temp-checks and proposal ordering.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is there anything like a &amp;quot;request for comment&amp;quot; as a precursor to a proposal process?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We've been talking about it...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There's the priority process, which people rarely use, but there's a public meeting required.  Some people send things out sometimes, especially to facilitation, and ask for feedback.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing I've been complaining about is that we don't have a forum on the website.  If we did, anyone can read it and go there.  There could be categories and such, but we don't have anything like it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This stuff is all very hard -- figuring out who has access, keeping trolls out, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to focus on anti-oppression?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The concrete things I hear about is that the facilitation could be more diverse, or the tools could be more diverse.  Also, progressive stack and how it's used during GA's, and collective acknowledgment of oppressive behavior in the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There's also the safer spaces thing, which was brought to GA and passed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Longer discussion about anti-oppression, and looking at report-backs from GA about GA's).  Maybe we can talk to the PoC, anti-opp, and women's groups to get their input into possible structural changes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proposals group mostly talked about whether we need to hear all the proposals that are brought.  If there's money to disperse, can't it get dispersed outside GA?  There are too many menial tasks that require GA approval.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My feeling of how to make changes within OB is to get a small group together, come up with a proposal, and bring it to the GA.  I'm a little wary of the working group structure, even though I get excited by thinking of what can come of it.  I think the best thing we could do is to agree to meet informally and come up with how things could be done better.&lt;br /&gt;
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== What are our next steps? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could also do data collection -- surveys, etc., asking people what they think, and using that to inform a proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the problems right now is that the proposal process isn't very good at that kind of data gathering; that's exactly what we want to figure out.  People can bring proposals.... but is there a way to talk about things without it being a proposal?  A proposal puts it into an adversarial tone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could ask the ideas group to come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could do a more formal survey, and collaborate with Occupy Research.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A possible way forward: do a 3-step approach.  First, survey people and collect more data about what people want out of a GA.  Second, as a small group, brainstorm and come up with a solid proposal for how to change things.  Third, shop this proposal around various groups and individuals, particularly those we expect might not like it, and find out how we can change it to make it stronger.  Then bring that proposal to the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Next steps for Friday ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Ask people on the mailing list if they're interested in mostly just listening, or if they are interested in coming to meetings.  Send out these notes, and invite them to Friday's meeting.  Say we're trying to look at structural issues that FWG isn't directly working on.&lt;br /&gt;
* Start working on a possible survey to circulate among people who are not coming to GA.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=13409</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=13409"/>
		<updated>2012-03-13T14:36:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Meeting Time */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/gapap&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We're trying to figure out a good time for a regular meeting schedule.  Please fill out the poll (ignore days of the month; we're looking for a regular meeting time, so consider the day of the week and time): http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GAPaP_regular_meeting_time/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Agenda for the next meeting: &lt;br /&gt;
* http://notes.occupy.net/p/LIGjTt074O&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Past meeting minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar12]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GAPaP/2012Mar2&amp;diff=12722</id>
		<title>GAPaP/2012Mar2</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GAPaP/2012Mar2&amp;diff=12722"/>
		<updated>2012-03-03T18:25:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;= GA Process and Purpose minutes, 2012 March 2 =&lt;br /&gt;
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Location: City Place / Transportation Bldg&lt;br /&gt;
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Time: 5pm to 7pm&lt;br /&gt;
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Participants: 7&lt;br /&gt;
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== Agenda ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bootstrapping -- so the agenda was a little fuzzy, but based on notes collected prior to the meeting.  We agreed to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Figure out what the purpose of this WG is&lt;br /&gt;
* Decide how this WG is going to operate&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Outcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Agreed to operate by consensus, using the &amp;quot;talk about things till everyone agrees or we drop it and move on&amp;quot; model.  We'll have an agenda with topics and rough time limits and goals for each item prior to each meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
* We talked about, but didn't reach a conclusion on what sort of methods we want to use for analyzing the GA.  We discussed reviewing and getting more feedback on the outcome of the GA about GA's ([[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]), and talked about possibly developing a survey (facebook, online, paper, etc) or finding other ways to reach out to people who aren't coming to GA's.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Discussion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Over and over again: I feel like people want some kind of format for discussion, varying from group discussion/break out time all the way to something like Robert's Rules of Order.  I get the sense people feel stifled, that their voices aren't always heard.  I feel that for me, coming in, there was a learning curve -- I see others having a hard time with it too.  I think we need to think about how to address the learning curve, and how to format discussion so that everyone feels heard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'd like to talk about process; to the extent that we have to.  I'd also like to talk about more than just proposal process, but about the GA holistically.  On a more macro level.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was feedback about macro or shared values -- it's something that came up, and it's natural, because we have a diverse group.  I'm not sure that everyone appreciates how diverse it is.  I feel like some members push a full consensus format, which I'm not sure is going to work for us given our diversity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
movement history, growth, ... -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The GA process that we're building on was based on Dewey's needs -- the needs of a group of people living together.  We moved from 2 GA's a day to 4 and then 3 a week.  What's the GA's role in a post-Dewey era?  Do we need 3 GA's a week?  Is that part of why it's wearing people down with long processes and minutia?  Perhaps things don't have as much importance when people are living together, with a lot of people moving in. Who are we, post Dewey?  What do we need out of a GA?  We have no softening materials, no orientation materials, little recognition of new people.  New people come to GA, and then never come again.  Is Occupy a spectator sport?  I'd like to kick the can around and figure out what the purpose of a GA is, and what it looks like to a newcomer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm here to explore all aspects of the current GA structure.  Not just the how decisions are made, but other things too.  Just because we've been doing things such as announcements in the same way, doesn't mean we need to do it the same way in the future.  More time in the room for discussions, not necessarily proposals.  I'm interested in exploring all aspects of that.  We may not change, but I'd like to explore that.  I want to see how we think we'll operate as a working group, as much as what we'll do.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing I found interesting during the proposal to freeze proposals last night until we shut down two banks.  It was interesting: people still wanted to have the GA.  Although there was a lot of support for the proposal, it was more about having the discussion.  A lot of people were upset that so few people come to GA, but no one wants to do away with it.  It was a captured audience -- the audience of people who come to GA, in a snow storm, with no food.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still fairly new, and have been hanging around for less than a month.  I think of GA as working groups coming together to be a huge working group of everyone.  I guess based on what people said that's not what's happening anymore.  I don't want to speak for them, but there are proposals being worked on to restructure things.  I'm not sure where I'm going with those thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We had an opportunity recently for discussion.  Unfortunately, we didn't do very well.  The topic was a report on the participatory budget process.  We'd allocated time and a format for that discussion, but it kindof devolved.  I think when we do this -- and it seems clear that we will have some kind of format for discussions -- we need to find a way to educate people on the concept so they get used to it quickly.  Based on that last experience, you have to be careful how you bring things up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm itching to practice consensus at OB, and haven't had much opportunity to yet.  If we are indeed going to come out with proposals, somehow some way, we need a process to develop them.  Maybe it's several steps in that... what do we do with it?  How are we as a group going to decide on things?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm amenable to using concensus, I'd like to try it.  I don't want to spend a lot of time working out a concensus process.  If we do that, I'd like to attach it to a specific process that's not too bureaucratic or complicated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm biased towards consensus.  I think it'd be cool to try it in this group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can we be clear about what concensus means?  My understanding is that we would not come to a decision that anyone had a problem with.  We'd have to define what the problem is.  Concerns with any proposal would be concerns someone would be willing to stand aside on.&lt;br /&gt;
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My understanding is that everyone works together to come to agreement that everyone can live with.  There's more ways to do it, but .. yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
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We have a guide -- the formal concensus book by Butler.&lt;br /&gt;
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I just spent hte last weekend with CT Butler.  Consensus is reached when each individual says I can allow this to happen.&lt;br /&gt;
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My understanding of concensus is that the only way a decision is made final is that each person stands aside.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the model I've been studying, there's no individual block; it's a group block.  The group issues a block in itself.  The core to even practicing concensus is that the values of the group are so clear that people know and live their shared values.  It's easier to know as concerns come up that they are addressed with that lens.  In that model, if 25% of people stand aside, the group wouldn't consider it to be an acceptable decision.  Also, I could not agree, but realize it's in the best interests of the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think part of what you run into when you use the word concensus, but it's not really concensus, is that you're giving an individual the power to veto a group's wishes.  I think that happens at Occupy Boston.  It's totally undemocratic, a power trip, and really dangerous.  Concensus is a much slower process than we allow for in a GA.  And we're not going to get to pure concensus with a group of 40, 50, 60, 70 people.  I have a guide to concensus that came from the 1970's.  I typed it up, and am redoing it as a flyer.  See what's useful and what's not...&lt;br /&gt;
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In Butler's model, just like we separate phases, he'll do that too, but separate them over time.  We spent one day talking about the importance of agenda planning. There's an agenda planner who meets with the facilitators for previous and next meetings, and they spend a huge amount of time planning the agenda.  One section would be that if someone has a proposal to bring forward, they introduce it, say what it is, and then take questions.  That'll continue until people understand it, and take the next step at the next meeting.  At the next meeting, they take concerns or suggestions, just about that thing.  Then, at the next meeting, you start trying to resolve some of the concerns.  Everything gets published between meetings.  Sometimes new questions or concerns come up, which can bump a question from level 3 back to level 1, and you start all over again,&lt;br /&gt;
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The interesting part about that -- the level 2 -- there's a brainstorming portion where people just throw out ideas, and you grou pthose ideas into a relational set.  As you do that, the issue becomes better understood in people's minds.&lt;br /&gt;
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I got that impression when I read the conflict and consensus thing, that it was a much longer process.  I proposed a while back that we think about spreading proposals out.  I didn't get a lot of positive feedback on it though.&lt;br /&gt;
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Butler doesn't recommend this model for a GA.  But he advocates it for smaller level, like working groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back when we had 2 meetings a day, we could've gotten through that long process quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
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You could map out each part of the process to what we're doing.  It's not a completely different change, but it would be an adjustment.  He also talked about spokescouncil; but he called it elder's council.  The spokescouncil is the exact same format as the elder's council.&lt;br /&gt;
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Their advice about determining shared values was pretty simple.  Everyone take a piece of paper, and write two columns: what values do you need the group to abide to, and what values would you want above the essentials.  Everyone goes through a process where you get the essentials list and find out what people have in common.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we were talking about using concensus in this working group.  If we want to do that, Butler's strategy might be a good starting point.  Maybe others have models to share.  I've used the &amp;quot;talk about stuff till you reach a decision&amp;quot; model.&lt;br /&gt;
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... talk about things until we come to agreement model ...&lt;br /&gt;
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I could live with that, but I'd also like to see an agendas with at least approximate times to spend on it.  But maybe when it gets to coming up with proposals for us to figure out and agree on, that could be a different process.  Maybe that's the &amp;quot;talk till we drop&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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It sounds like proposals are part of that process....&lt;br /&gt;
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So, based on what we just talked about: let's use that method until further notice.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we feel like GA could be improved, there it is, the issue has been identified.&lt;br /&gt;
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... consensus, agenda, goals, precedent ...&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the things that we got in the feedback from the 2 hour discussion is that a lot of people don't want workshopping of proposals at the General Assembly.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though I wonder if they would feel differently if people would feel differently if the goal for discussion was explicit.&lt;br /&gt;
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What you were saying about precedent hit us with Occupy Boston too.  People started suggesting that there was no precedent for our process.  We realized that we had taught them a process without indicating that...&lt;br /&gt;
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Have we now lost quorum to come to a decision on how to run things?&lt;br /&gt;
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It sounds to me that people are cool with &amp;quot;talk about stuff until approval&amp;quot; consensus model.&lt;br /&gt;
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... be explicit about topics and time limits, and &amp;quot;try this on&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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CONSENSUS: We are going to try using a &amp;quot;talk about it until agreement&amp;quot; consensus model, with agendas and time limits.&lt;br /&gt;
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When an agenda gets set for a meeting, what's the agenda setter's role when the meeting starts?&lt;br /&gt;
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There's always a part at the start of the meeting where people can change the agenda.&lt;br /&gt;
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Do they then facilitate the agenda, or is a new facilitator chosen?&lt;br /&gt;
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The recommendation is to have a new facilitator at every meeting, because the position is so powerful.  It's a perk; everyone needs to feel the responsibility.  Sometimes it's hard to own up to that power.  A rotating time keeper, note taker, and facilitator each meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Mission ===&lt;br /&gt;
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To begin with the mission, it might be most expedient to state where we stand in terms of our process.  How do we gather data from other places?  We could be a reading and research group, a data collecting group, a group that liases with something else.  How exactly we come to decisions, observations, etc. seems important to discuss.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd say at least partially, in response to feedback in GA.  This is loosely tied to facilitation, because they run GA.  Beyond that I'm not so sure.&lt;br /&gt;
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I just looked at the notes from the 23rd's GA about GA's.  There are some specific things here, and specific topics.  It might be interesting to take them as broken down here, and do brainstorming about what would make these points better, and set up a GA where we report back with our insights and possibilities.  Just as a way of bringing it full circle.&lt;br /&gt;
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I do like the idea of being a group that goes back to the GA, perhaps regularly, to report and gather more information.&lt;br /&gt;
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So we deal directly with GA, and not through facilitation?&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that if facilitators want to be part of this process, they'll come to these meetings otherwise, facilitation doesn't have to approve anything.  Facilitaton has to be on board if it involves facilitation... this group will have to liase with facilitation.  I don't think we report there, at least not yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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When we initially decided to form, we formed as a committee.  That's the only reason I brought it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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... reach out beyond GA ...&lt;br /&gt;
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So go to the working groups?  How do you find people, if they aren't already in GA or working groups?&lt;br /&gt;
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We could put a call out for people who haven't been to GA for a while, and ask them to tell us why.  Facebook, email lists, twitter, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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There're a lot of folks that don't go to GA, who go to working groups.  They're all on facebook and twitter, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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We can go to spokes council, too, assuming that's up and running.&lt;br /&gt;
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About 50% of the people in spokes don't go to GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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How soon would we do this outreach?&lt;br /&gt;
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We could do a survey...  &lt;br /&gt;
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We could ask Occupy Research to draft something for us.&lt;br /&gt;
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We could do it online, and have them at GA on paper for people who like that.  I think people like to fill it out.  Throw it up on facebook, and people might do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we contrast what those people said to what people in GA said, we could start figuring out the issues that we need to implement.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12720</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
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		<updated>2012-03-03T17:02:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Meeting Time */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/gapap&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We're trying to figure out a good time for a regular meeting schedule.  Please fill out the poll (ignore days of the month; we're looking for a regular meeting time, so consider the day of the week and time): http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GAPaP_regular_meeting_time/&lt;br /&gt;
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Agenda for the next meeting: &lt;br /&gt;
* http://notes.occupy.net/p/LIGjTt074O&lt;br /&gt;
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Past meeting minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[GAPaP/2012Mar2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12719"/>
		<updated>2012-03-03T16:58:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Meeting Time */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/gapap&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We're trying to figure out a good time for a regular meeting schedule.  Please fill out the poll:&lt;br /&gt;
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http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GAPaP_regular_meeting_time/&lt;br /&gt;
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Agenda for the next meeting: &lt;br /&gt;
* http://notes.occupy.net/p/LIGjTt074O&lt;br /&gt;
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Past meeting minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[GAPaP/2012Mar2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>GAPaP/2012Mar2</title>
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		<updated>2012-03-03T16:56:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: Created page with &amp;quot;= GA Process and Purpose minutes, 2012 March 2 =  Location: City Place / Transportation Bldg  Time: 5pm to 7pm  Participants: 6  == Agenda ==  Bootstrapping -- so the agenda was ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;= GA Process and Purpose minutes, 2012 March 2 =&lt;br /&gt;
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Location: City Place / Transportation Bldg&lt;br /&gt;
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Time: 5pm to 7pm&lt;br /&gt;
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Participants: 6&lt;br /&gt;
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== Agenda ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Bootstrapping -- so the agenda was a little fuzzy, but based on notes collected prior to the meeting.  We agreed to:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Figure out what the purpose of this WG is&lt;br /&gt;
* Decide how this WG is going to operate&lt;br /&gt;
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== Outcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Agreed to operate by consensus, using the &amp;quot;talk about things till everyone agrees or we drop it and move on&amp;quot; model.  We'll have an agenda with topics and rough time limits and goals for each item prior to each meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
* We talked about, but didn't reach a conclusion on what sort of methods we want to use for analyzing the GA.  We discussed reviewing and getting more feedback on the outcome of the GA about GA's ([[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]), and talked about possibly developing a survey (facebook, online, paper, etc) or finding other ways to reach out to people who aren't coming to GA's.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Over and over again: I feel like people want some kind of format for discussion, varying from group discussion/break out time all the way to something like Robert's Rules of Order.  I get the sense people feel stifled, that their voices aren't always heard.  I feel that for me, coming in, there was a learning curve -- I see others having a hard time with it too.  I think we need to think about how to address the learning curve, and how to format discussion so that everyone feels heard.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to talk about process; to the extent that we have to.  I'd also like to talk about more than just proposal process, but about the GA holistically.  On a more macro level.&lt;br /&gt;
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There was feedback about macro or shared values -- it's something that came up, and it's natural, because we have a diverse group.  I'm not sure that everyone appreciates how diverse it is.  I feel like some members push a full consensus format, which I'm not sure is going to work for us given our diversity.&lt;br /&gt;
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movement history, growth, ... -&lt;br /&gt;
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The GA process that we're building on was based on Dewey's needs -- the needs of a group of people living together.  We moved from 2 GA's a day to 4 and then 3 a week.  What's the GA's role in a post-Dewey era?  Do we need 3 GA's a week?  Is that part of why it's wearing people down with long processes and minutia?  Perhaps things don't have as much importance when people are living together, with a lot of people moving in. Who are we, post Dewey?  What do we need out of a GA?  We have no softening materials, no orientation materials, little recognition of new people.  New people come to GA, and then never come again.  Is Occupy a spectator sport?  I'd like to kick the can around and figure out what the purpose of a GA is, and what it looks like to a newcomer.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm here to explore all aspects of the current GA structure.  Not just the how decisions are made, but other things too.  Just because we've been doing things such as announcements in the same way, doesn't mean we need to do it the same way in the future.  More time in the room for discussions, not necessarily proposals.  I'm interested in exploring all aspects of that.  We may not change, but I'd like to explore that.  I want to see how we think we'll operate as a working group, as much as what we'll do.&lt;br /&gt;
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One thing I found interesting during the proposal to freeze proposals last night until we shut down two banks.  It was interesting: people still wanted to have the GA.  Although there was a lot of support for the proposal, it was more about having the discussion.  A lot of people were upset that so few people come to GA, but no one wants to do away with it.  It was a captured audience -- the audience of people who come to GA, in a snow storm, with no food.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm still fairly new, and have been hanging around for less than a month.  I think of GA as working groups coming together to be a huge working group of everyone.  I guess based on what people said that's not what's happening anymore.  I don't want to speak for them, but there are proposals being worked on to restructure things.  I'm not sure where I'm going with those thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
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We had an opportunity recently for discussion.  Unfortunately, we didn't do very well.  The topic was a report on the participatory budget process.  We'd allocated time and a format for that discussion, but it kindof devolved.  I think when we do this -- and it seems clear that we will have some kind of format for discussions -- we need to find a way to educate people on the concept so they get used to it quickly.  Based on that last experience, you have to be careful how you bring things up.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm itching to practice consensus at OB, and haven't had much opportunity to yet.  If we are indeed going to come out with proposals, somehow some way, we need a process to develop them.  Maybe it's several steps in that... what do we do with it?  How are we as a group going to decide on things?&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm amenable to using concensus, I'd like to try it.  I don't want to spend a lot of time working out a concensus process.  If we do that, I'd like to attach it to a specific process that's not too bureaucratic or complicated.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm biased towards consensus.  I think it'd be cool to try it in this group.&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we be clear about what concensus means?  My understanding is that we would not come to a decision that anyone had a problem with.  We'd have to define what the problem is.  Concerns with any proposal would be concerns someone would be willing to stand aside on.&lt;br /&gt;
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My understanding is that everyone works together to come to agreement that everyone can live with.  There's more ways to do it, but .. yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
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We have a guide -- the formal concensus book by Butler.&lt;br /&gt;
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I just spent hte last weekend with CT Butler.  Consensus is reached when each individual says I can allow this to happen.&lt;br /&gt;
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My understanding of concensus is that the only way a decision is made final is that each person stands aside.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the model I've been studying, there's no individual block; it's a group block.  The group issues a block in itself.  The core to even practicing concensus is that the values of the group are so clear that people know and live their shared values.  It's easier to know as concerns come up that they are addressed with that lens.  In that model, if 25% of people stand aside, the group wouldn't consider it to be an acceptable decision.  Also, I could not agree, but realize it's in the best interests of the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think part of what you run into when you use the word concensus, but it's not really concensus, is that you're giving an individual the power to veto a group's wishes.  I think that happens at Occupy Boston.  It's totally undemocratic, a power trip, and really dangerous.  Concensus is a much slower process than we allow for in a GA.  And we're not going to get to pure concensus with a group of 40, 50, 60, 70 people.  I have a guide to concensus that came from the 1970's.  I typed it up, and am redoing it as a flyer.  See what's useful and what's not...&lt;br /&gt;
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In Butler's model, just like we separate phases, he'll do that too, but separate them over time.  We spent one day talking about the importance of agenda planning. There's an agenda planner who meets with the facilitators for previous and next meetings, and they spend a huge amount of time planning the agenda.  One section would be that if someone has a proposal to bring forward, they introduce it, say what it is, and then take questions.  That'll continue until people understand it, and take the next step at the next meeting.  At the next meeting, they take concerns or suggestions, just about that thing.  Then, at the next meeting, you start trying to resolve some of the concerns.  Everything gets published between meetings.  Sometimes new questions or concerns come up, which can bump a question from level 3 back to level 1, and you start all over again,&lt;br /&gt;
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The interesting part about that -- the level 2 -- there's a brainstorming portion where people just throw out ideas, and you grou pthose ideas into a relational set.  As you do that, the issue becomes better understood in people's minds.&lt;br /&gt;
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I got that impression when I read the conflict and consensus thing, that it was a much longer process.  I proposed a while back that we think about spreading proposals out.  I didn't get a lot of positive feedback on it though.&lt;br /&gt;
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Butler doesn't recommend this model for a GA.  But he advocates it for smaller level, like working groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back when we had 2 meetings a day, we could've gotten through that long process quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
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You could map out each part of the process to what we're doing.  It's not a completely different change, but it would be an adjustment.  He also talked about spokescouncil; but he called it elder's council.  The spokescouncil is the exact same format as the elder's council.&lt;br /&gt;
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Their advice about determining shared values was pretty simple.  Everyone take a piece of paper, and write two columns: what values do you need the group to abide to, and what values would you want above the essentials.  Everyone goes through a process where you get the essentials list and find out what people have in common.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we were talking about using concensus in this working group.  If we want to do that, Butler's strategy might be a good starting point.  Maybe others have models to share.  I've used the &amp;quot;talk about stuff till you reach a decision&amp;quot; model.&lt;br /&gt;
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... talk about things until we come to agreement model ...&lt;br /&gt;
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I could live with that, but I'd also like to see an agendas with at least approximate times to spend on it.  But maybe when it gets to coming up with proposals for us to figure out and agree on, that could be a different process.  Maybe that's the &amp;quot;talk till we drop&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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It sounds like proposals are part of that process....&lt;br /&gt;
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So, based on what we just talked about: let's use that method until further notice.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we feel like GA could be improved, there it is, the issue has been identified.&lt;br /&gt;
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... consensus, agenda, goals, precedent ...&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the things that we got in the feedback from the 2 hour discussion is that a lot of people don't want workshopping of proposals at the General Assembly.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though I wonder if they would feel differently if people would feel differently if the goal for discussion was explicit.&lt;br /&gt;
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What you were saying about precedent hit us with Occupy Boston too.  People started suggesting that there was no precedent for our process.  We realized that we had taught them a process without indicating that...&lt;br /&gt;
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Have we now lost quorum to come to a decision on how to run things?&lt;br /&gt;
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It sounds to me that people are cool with &amp;quot;talk about stuff until approval&amp;quot; consensus model.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
... be explicit about topics and time limits, and &amp;quot;try this on&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CONSENSUS: We are going to try using a &amp;quot;talk about it until agreement&amp;quot; consensus model, with agendas and time limits.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When an agenda gets set for a meeting, what's the agenda setter's role when the meeting starts?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There's always a part at the start of the meeting where people can change the agenda.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do they then facilitate the agenda, or is a new facilitator chosen?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The recommendation is to have a new facilitator at every meeting, because the position is so powerful.  It's a perk; everyone needs to feel the responsibility.  Sometimes it's hard to own up to that power.  A rotating time keeper, note taker, and facilitator each meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Mission ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To begin with the mission, it might be most expedient to state where we stand in terms of our process.  How do we gather data from other places?  We could be a reading and research group, a data collecting group, a group that liases with something else.  How exactly we come to decisions, observations, etc. seems important to discuss.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'd say at least partially, in response to feedback in GA.  This is loosely tied to facilitation, because they run GA.  Beyond that I'm not so sure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just looked at the notes from the 23rd's GA about GA's.  There are some specific things here, and specific topics.  It might be interesting to take them as broken down here, and do brainstorming about what would make these points better, and set up a GA where we report back with our insights and possibilities.  Just as a way of bringing it full circle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do like the idea of being a group that goes back to the GA, perhaps regularly, to report and gather more information.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So we deal directly with GA, and not through facilitation?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that if facilitators want to be part of this process, they'll come to these meetings otherwise, facilitation doesn't have to approve anything.  Facilitaton has to be on board if it involves facilitation... this group will have to liase with facilitation.  I don't think we report there, at least not yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When we initially decided to form, we formed as a committee.  That's the only reason I brought it up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
... reach out beyond GA ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So go to the working groups?  How do you find people, if they aren't already in GA or working groups?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could put a call out for people who haven't been to GA for a while, and ask them to tell us why.  Facebook, email lists, twitter, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There're a lot of folks that don't go to GA, who go to working groups.  They're all on facebook and twitter, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We can go to spokes council, too, assuming that's up and running.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
About 50% of the people in spokes don't go to GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How soon would we do this outreach?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could do a survey...  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could ask Occupy Research to draft something for us.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could do it online, and have them at GA on paper for people who like that.  I think people like to fill it out.  Throw it up on facebook, and people might do it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we contrast what those people said to what people in GA said, we could start figuring out the issues that we need to implement.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12717</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12717"/>
		<updated>2012-03-03T16:49:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Meeting Time */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/gapap&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We're trying to figure out a good time for a regular meeting schedule.  Please fill out the poll:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GAPaP_regular_meeting_time/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Past meeting minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GAPaP/2012Mar2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12483</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12483"/>
		<updated>2012-03-02T19:59:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/gapap&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First meeting: Friday March 2, 5pm, at [http://goo.gl/FXxz2 City Place / Transportation building].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA/Minutes&amp;diff=12476</id>
		<title>GA/Minutes</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA/Minutes&amp;diff=12476"/>
		<updated>2012-03-02T16:08:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Here is an archive of all General Assemblies held by Occupy Boston. Scroll to view all, or sort by month.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''2011'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[GA/Minutes/Sept2011|September]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[GA/Minutes/Oct2011|October]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[GA/Minutes/Nov2011|November]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[GA/Minutes/Dec2011|December]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''2012'''&lt;br /&gt;
*[[GA/Minutes/Jan2012|January]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[GA/Minutes/Feb2012|February]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[GA/Minutes/Feb2012|March]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:''[Note: we are missing General Assembly minutes for at least all the dates in black below! For details on how to fill the gaps, check out [http://occupyboston.wikispaces.com/message/view/GA+Minutes/44557288 this discussion].]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''Learn about the [[General Assembly]]''&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;''Have minutes to share? Please see our [[GA/Minutes/Guidelines|Upload Guidelines]]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[GA/Minutes/Mar2012|March 2012]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{:GA/Minutes/Mar2012}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[GA/Minutes/Feb2012|February 2012]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:GA/Minutes/Feb2012}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[GA/Minutes/Jan2012|January 2012]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:GA/Minutes/Jan2012}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[GA/Minutes/Dec2011|December 2011]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:GA/Minutes/Dec2011}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[GA/Minutes/Nov2011|November 2011]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:GA/Minutes/Nov2011}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[GA/Minutes/Oct2011|October 2011]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:GA/Minutes/Oct2011}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[GA/Minutes/Sept2011|September 2011]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:GA/Minutes/Sept2011}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA/Minutes/Mar2012&amp;diff=12475</id>
		<title>GA/Minutes/Mar2012</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA/Minutes/Mar2012&amp;diff=12475"/>
		<updated>2012-03-02T16:03:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: Created page with &amp;quot;=== Week 23 - Thurs Mar 1 ===&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=== [[GA Minutes Thurs Mar 1 2012|Week 23 - Thurs Mar 1]] ===&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA/Minutes/Feb2012&amp;diff=12474</id>
		<title>GA/Minutes/Feb2012</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA/Minutes/Feb2012&amp;diff=12474"/>
		<updated>2012-03-02T16:01:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Week 23 - Tues Feb 28 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=== [[GA Minutes Tues Feb 28 2012|Week 23 - Tues Feb 28]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [[GA Minutes Sat Feb 25 2012|Week 22 - Sat Feb 25]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [[Media:GA_Minutes_Thur_Feb_23_2012.txt|Week 21 - Thur Feb 23]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [[GA_Minutes_Tue_Feb_21_2012| Week 21 - Tues Feb 21]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Week 21 - Sat Feb 18 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Week 20 - Thur Feb 16 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [[Media:GA_Minutes_Feb_14_2012.txt|Week 20 - Tues Feb 14]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Week 20 - Sat Feb 11 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Week 19 - Thur Feb 9 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Week 19 - Tues Feb 7 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Week 19 - Sat Feb 4 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [[GA Minutes Week 18 - Thur Feb 2|Week 18 - Thur Feb 2]] ===&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Feb_28_2012&amp;diff=12473</id>
		<title>GA Minutes Feb 28 2012</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Feb_28_2012&amp;diff=12473"/>
		<updated>2012-03-02T16:01:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: Blanked the page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Feb_28_2012&amp;diff=12472</id>
		<title>GA Minutes Feb 28 2012</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Feb_28_2012&amp;diff=12472"/>
		<updated>2012-03-02T16:01:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: moved GA Minutes Feb 28 2012 to GA Minutes Tues Feb 28 2012&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[GA Minutes Tues Feb 28 2012]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Tues_Feb_28_2012&amp;diff=12471</id>
		<title>GA Minutes Tues Feb 28 2012</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Tues_Feb_28_2012&amp;diff=12471"/>
		<updated>2012-03-02T16:01:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: moved GA Minutes Feb 28 2012 to GA Minutes Tues Feb 28 2012&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= Minutes for 28 September 2012 =&lt;br /&gt;
== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Location Arlington Church&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Time: 7pm to 10:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note taker: Charlie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Introduction to Participatory Budgeting by the [[WG/Financial Accountability|Financial Accountability Working Group]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion of &amp;quot;Denouncing American style democracy&amp;quot; proposal.  Proposal blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Non-violence working group ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
March 17, 100th birthday of ____.  Community gathering Monday night, 6-8:30, C__ church in Boston.  Exploring power and challenges of non-violence.  Next WG meeting Thursday March 1 at 3pm, 7 Pleasant Place in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Food ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food WG is regrouping again.  Meeting Tuesday, Arlington Church, 5:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Media / livestream ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Livestream training Saturday 3:00pm, E5.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Any other opportunity for this?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: No other training set; but contact livestream team and we can teach you.&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Is the training going to be livestreamed?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: We hadn't thought to, but sure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Logistics ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We're working hard still.  Would love to see you there.  We need a big truck, a food tent, and a sink.  logistics@occupyboston.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Tactical ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting tomorrow at Remmington's at 9pm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Financial Accounting Working Group ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please continue to contribute to the space rental found; $320/week.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We haven't had a meeting in a month or so.  Meeting tomorrow, 7pm, at City Place / Transportation building.  Please join us: it's just a bunch of old white folks managing your money, which isn't good.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proposal passed a while ago for a spending freeze on working group dispersements.  We promised to make a recommendation on March 6.  There was a $2000 set-aside for actions; we've spent ~$800.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Screen Print ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We made T-shirts today.  Yay!!!  See me if you want help with screen printing -- or [[ Screen Print Guild ]], facebook page, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spaces ===&lt;br /&gt;
We've had a conversation about visions around space, etc. We decided an affinity group outside OB would be a preferred venue for this. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting Friday 6pm at E5. Spaces needs to interface better with the movement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Facilitation ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Friday 5pm, City Place, sub-group of facilitation for [[GA process and purpose]]. Follow-up from last Tuesday.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Individual Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
* __ left this morning for Georgia to hike the Appalachian Trail.  Will be in Western Mass probably in June or so.&lt;br /&gt;
* My passion outside of OB is Justice for Palestine.  Tufts, BU, Brandeis etc. have speakers running.  I have papers comparing South African apartheid to Palestine.  This week, an outstanding group of speakers at Harvard.  &amp;quot;One State Solution&amp;quot;.  This weekend, Occupy American Israeli Political Action Committee.  This year the focus is on Iran.&lt;br /&gt;
* St. Patrick's day parade pamphlets!  March 18.  There's been a time change: flyer says 2pm, but it'll be 3pm.  This is a permitted march.  Expect 1500 to 2000 people.  Most will depend on y'all getting out there and talking to people.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a proposal Occupy Boston Radio Group to OBGA, will be brought up on Thursday.  Monday 6pm-7pm, Veteran's for peace radio.  Not strictly veteran/military -- you can contribute.  Listen!!&lt;br /&gt;
* Parade planning meeting, 2161 Mass Ave, American Friends Service Committee offices. 6:30pm Thursday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy Lynn GA this Saturday, 3pm, city hall in Lynn.&lt;br /&gt;
* Flyers for the community open house.  They have fronts, and backs.  Hot pink.  April 2, and the first Monday of each month.  If you want to get involved with Open House, Strategic Action Assembly on Sunday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy U Mass Boston!  Thursday March 1, National/International student day of action.  1pm Dewey Square, to State House for rally.  March 15-18, outside events at U-Mass Boston.&lt;br /&gt;
* A cool thing in New York: Occupy Town Square at Thompson Square Park for 6 hours every Sunday.  Think about this, and whether we could do something like it too.&lt;br /&gt;
* The new face of warfare (and surveillance in the US) is drones.  Tomorrow night at 7pm at Cambridge Friends' meeting house, 5 Longfellow Drive in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
30 second pause for reflection&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Participatory Budgeting and Justice ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''(Presentation from PB&amp;amp;J committee)''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is not just FAWG: We seek full participation from everyone.  PB&amp;amp;J is a working group to develop a budgeting process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Why PB&amp;amp;J?&lt;br /&gt;
* Budget determines allocation.&lt;br /&gt;
* Translates policy goals to action.&lt;br /&gt;
* To prevent control of the budget by elites.&lt;br /&gt;
* Future of OB should not be controlled by the loudest or most popular, or by those best able to manipulate the system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Current monthly deficit -- projected/estimated based on current practice:&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! General funds&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Beginning general funds&lt;br /&gt;
| $66000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Less tactical reserve&lt;br /&gt;
| -$14000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Net working cash&lt;br /&gt;
! $52000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Income&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| GA donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Other unrestricted donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $1000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total general revenues&lt;br /&gt;
! $1750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Expenses&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Rent&lt;br /&gt;
| $2710&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Internet service&lt;br /&gt;
| $470&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Mutual aid&lt;br /&gt;
| $1300&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total&lt;br /&gt;
! $4480 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Deficit&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| deficit before WG expenses&lt;br /&gt;
| -$2730 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| round-up deficit&lt;br /&gt;
| -$3000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Given this deficit, here are three scenarios for 6-month cash flow projection:&lt;br /&gt;
* If expenses don't change, with no WG expenses: After 6 months: $34000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $2,500 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $19000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $5,000 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $4000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* Any expenses beyond this would have to be offset by Working Group fundraising.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''How does PB work?'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Instead of &amp;quot;Announce and defend&amp;quot; (where you present options and pick), engage the community to define things themselves.: Participatory Budgeting employs a set of tools to help make effective decisions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''' History of PB: '''&lt;br /&gt;
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* 1989 -- city of Porto Allegre in Brazil used PB to allow more direct control&lt;br /&gt;
* 2009 -- Chicago's 49th ward launched 1st US experience.&lt;br /&gt;
* Used in Latin America, Europe, Africa and Asia&lt;br /&gt;
* New York: discretionary funds, $6million using this process.&lt;br /&gt;
* Participatory Budgeting: &amp;quot;A fundamental law for revolutionary democracy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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''' How to implement in OB? '''&lt;br /&gt;
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Each working group will report budgetary needs and what it will do with the funds.  Together, the WGs look past individual goals to see whole movement opportunities.&lt;br /&gt;
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    Q: Does the budget process establish goals, or do goals inform the budget process?&lt;br /&gt;
    A: Working Groups already decide what the actions are that they do.&lt;br /&gt;
    Q: Who gets to decide the goals/vision of movement?  Shouldn't we do that first?&lt;br /&gt;
    A: The process you're asking for -- collective discussion of Occupy's goals -- &lt;br /&gt;
    is what this workshop is.  It's a strategic planning process.  By coming &lt;br /&gt;
    together and sharing knowledge between working groups, there's better &lt;br /&gt;
    creativity and synergy.&lt;br /&gt;
    A: We could spend hte next 3 months trying to figure out our goals. If &lt;br /&gt;
    working groups weren't working in our interests, we'd be up in arms about &lt;br /&gt;
    that.  Through this process, we get more accountability than we already have.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Issues discussed in PB&amp;amp;J meetings'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Avoid becoming an NGO!&lt;br /&gt;
** Don't just sustain the institution rather than change the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* How to handle fundraising?&lt;br /&gt;
** Do we even do it?&lt;br /&gt;
** Should each WG raise its own funds or continue to have a single OB fund?&lt;br /&gt;
* Who else should be participating in these sessions?&lt;br /&gt;
* SWOT -- What are our strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''What's planned so far?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* First workshop:&lt;br /&gt;
** March 25th noon-5pm at New Hope Church in JP&lt;br /&gt;
** Introduction to PB by Maria Green, Northeastern School of Law&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop moderated by Bianpaolo Baiocchi, expert in PB at Brown U, PB project, NYd&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop Output: trial budget&lt;br /&gt;
*** Do budget for 3 months and see how it works out&lt;br /&gt;
* What's accomplished so far?&lt;br /&gt;
** Prepared forms for WGs to outline mission, opportunities, needs&lt;br /&gt;
** Increaesd WG communication&lt;br /&gt;
** WGs need to help each other out.&lt;br /&gt;
* Needed:&lt;br /&gt;
** submit forms describing WG and its needs -- important if you want funding&lt;br /&gt;
** Participate in the process regardless of need&lt;br /&gt;
*** Help guide the direction of OB&lt;br /&gt;
*** Take ownership&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Discussion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: As a member of FAWG, I realize that there's some tension here.  I played a role here, but FAWG jumped forward and has been building support for this.  Another way to do it would be to put up a proposal to do a PB process in front of GA.  FAWG chose to do it one way, which may have given rise to unrest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I'm going to treat this as a gift to the community to understand the process, and then have clarifying questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I like the idea of participatory budgets and including everyone.  I feel really uncomfortable with how this process came about.  I'm uncomfortable that we're moving a collective discussion of goals and strategies to something that came out of a working group.  Are we going to be an occupation?  Are we going outdoors or in?  These things need to be decided as a group.  The projections of money lock in a certain vision of us that I'm not ready to lock in.  We could be something totally different in 2-3 months.  We need to decide that as a group and not lock in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: This seems like a great process for cities.  I don't know how it's relevant to us.  We have no idea what we're going to be dealing with in 2 months.  We could be occupying, with big donations, or no longer here at all.  One reason lots of WG's aren't taking part, is that we never decided this is what we're going to do.  There's no decision that the plan will make a difference, or that we're using the process.  This should have come not as a presentation, but a proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I think this is a great idea -- it can help be a catalyst for the bigger discussion we need to have as a movement.  It needs to go a little more slowly.  First, figure out who we are and where we're going, then go to the budgeting.  We can still bring this to GA, and address it there.  Then, the WG's will be more on board.  Could these meetings/workshops that happen not all happen Monday-Friday 9-5?  There's a lot of folks that can't make it those times.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: This is about planning how to spend money.  We're either going to plan, or we'll spend without planning.  Are we going to have a plan, or first come first serve and then 3 months there's nothing left?  The spending freeze arose out of the fact that we're losing cash so rapidly.  This isn't an issue that can just sit around; 2 months from now that cash balance could be too low if people approve things without a budget.  We have limited resources that are rapidly depleting.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: The status quo is to do what we've been doing (first come, first serve).  That's not equitable -- it's who's in front of the line that gets the money. This is a more equitable way of making sure that everyone's voice is heard.  Second: Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Baltimore have been doing this -- though OWS haven't implemented it yet.  We don't want to just teach them; we want to actually do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: A number of points have been raised that participatory budget serves participatory goals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: It's not a 1-year budget.  We could do it as a 3-month.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The part I heard -- not necessarily up to the PB&amp;amp;J folks -- there needs to be a process determining the goals, which a budgeting process can work with.&lt;br /&gt;
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Question: Do you believe it's within your authority as a group to decide our budget for the next 3 months?  I don't.&lt;br /&gt;
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Answer: Think of it as a GA about money.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: But it's not a GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Why not?  I get that we didn't consent to do this process.  But what I've heard my colleagues say is that the process they hope to give and get people involved in is absolutely not FAWG deciding how to make money.  It's FAWG setting up a process for participation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: At the end of 3 months, if htis process exists, will there be a budget OB is committed to?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes -- but it'd have to come back to GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Timeout.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: There's conflict, misunderstanding, and there needs to be flexibility to achieve clarity.  I'm recognizing that this is a moment when we need clarity.  I'm asking if we can just take a few minutes to clear up a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Two things: first, our plan (which I didn't have an opportunity to say) is to do monitoring and evaluation, see if it's working, go to GA, and if folks are happy, to adopt it as the process at that point.  That's how it works -- it's not just planning, it's monitoring and evaluation too.  One more point: When we made the participatory budgeting presentation back in 2011, there was a 100% temperature check that people liked it.&lt;br /&gt;
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B: The financial analysis at the time were done produently and well; frankly, given the fact that he wasn't paid to do it, above and beyond what was expected.  However, it came from a negative view to the extent that it assumed we wouldn't find any additional fundraising, such as permanant communities, reoccupation, concerts, etc.  Things that would bring money in.  What I'm saying is when business forecast, they forecast speculatively, in a positive light.  If we do this -- let's get to doing this!&lt;br /&gt;
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C: I agree with that -- what's presented so far is just what we've got now, and the past couple of months.  That does not say that as spring unfolds we won't do better.  This process isn't trying to limit anything; if that's how it comes across, we aren't communicating well.  I'm applauding that FAWG is grabbing this and trying to get more what people are asking for -- a global, community decision about what to do.  I haven't seen other folks doing that; it doesn't happen at GA.  What it's about is this visionary stuff -- what we want to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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D: The majority of the questions are misinterpreting because we put numbers on a screen.  What we are presenting a tool that we can use, regardless of the numbers.  We need methods and tools we can use.  Participatory Budgeting is such a tool.&lt;br /&gt;
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E: Before Christmas I visited Occupy Providence.  They have no budgeting, but they manage to travel to national conventions.  They have no funds at all.  A good process of us budgeting would be categorizing money into groups on what we as a community together decide, instead of a process of trying to be conservative.  Even if the budget becomes zero, we could take a lesson from Providence.&lt;br /&gt;
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F: Observations: : We currently don't have a budget.  In the interests of creating a democratic process, we have a working group.  There are people in the GA who believe that process should be ratified by the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Deep gratitude for a process that just revealed what is already happening.  It's clearly been an important catalyst for people to say &amp;quot;hmm&amp;quot;, what is this not taking into account?  I'm greatful for that being raised.  It's an invitation for people to be involved in defining goals.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Summaries:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Denouncing American Style Democracy: American democracy today is a scam.  To express our dissatisfaction, Occupy Boston endorses writing &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; in the coming election.&lt;br /&gt;
* Stop GA other than announcements until we shut down banks. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
* U-Mass Boston wants to borrow a food tank for 4 or 5 days. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Denouncing American style democracy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Denouncing American Style Democracy&lt;br /&gt;
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Initial proposal text:&lt;br /&gt;
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    American Democracy today is a scam.  All major politicians sleep in&lt;br /&gt;
    the same bed, lined with crisp new bills from the Federal Reserve&lt;br /&gt;
    Bank.  The People are told they have no choice but to vote for one&lt;br /&gt;
    of two candidates.  The truth is that either way we vote, we are&lt;br /&gt;
    still voting to continue the corporate-government complex that&lt;br /&gt;
    funnels money from the People into illegal, meaningless wars, spends&lt;br /&gt;
    trillions on bailing out ineffective multinational banks, and&lt;br /&gt;
    literally is making our planet unlivable for human  and other&lt;br /&gt;
    organisms.  &lt;br /&gt;
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    But there is another choice.  We can decide to protest the two party&lt;br /&gt;
    system through a write-in campaign.  By doing so, we can send a&lt;br /&gt;
    strong message that we refuse to participate in this broken&lt;br /&gt;
    electoral system.  To express our dissatisfaction Occupy Boston&lt;br /&gt;
    endorses writing in on the ballot for President of the USA,&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;quot;none-of-the-above&amp;quot; in this coming election.  We believe the office&lt;br /&gt;
    of President of the United States of America has been purchased by&lt;br /&gt;
    multinational corporations and banks.  Ergo we refuse to acknowledge&lt;br /&gt;
    the validity of any of the major candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
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    Furthermore, we encourage all Occupies and other interested parties&lt;br /&gt;
    around the country to endorse the above mentioned write-in campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
    With enough protest votes we can show the political elite and&lt;br /&gt;
    plutocrats that we refuse to accept their veiled aristocracy and&lt;br /&gt;
    demand that a new political system based on the principles of a true&lt;br /&gt;
    Democracy be established.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do we mean to denounce green and other party candidates?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: We don't mean to reject any options.  This is just one option.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What kind of numbers are we looking for here?  How many?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: 50 million. :)  What I'd like to see is everyone that doesn't vote writes in none of the above -- but that's not going to happen.  Maybe 2 or 3 percent of the vote.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is it your intention to say that Occupy Boston will write in &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot;, or we encourage people to do it, or what?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No... nothing in here states that if you don't write &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; you're no longer in Occupy Boston.  I'd encourage people to do that if they're not satisfied.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: I wonder if you're thinking of this as one step in a greater action.  How do we expand this?  Is this the beginning or end of discussion?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The last paragraph deos say that we encourage others to endorse this as well.  Were this to pass, there would certainly be outreach at least to the other occupies.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What do you mean to &amp;quot;refuse to participate&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;don't recognize the validity&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The general point is that the major candidates are bought by corporations. Any major candidate, it's intentionally broad.  President only.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Half of qualified electorate are unregistered.  Do you suggest people should register in order to write in none-of-the-above?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: There's no such suggestion in this proposal.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Information: In some states there are no write ins.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Information: You can request one in any state.&lt;br /&gt;
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Small group break-outs&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like this proposal.  I feel like we have an opportunity right now to get a significant percentage of the vote.  We should pick something and go for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I feel like our group as a whole has already denounced American democracy.  I think this proposal should just pass; we've already been doing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this.  One of the biggest challenges is that it's hard to consent to things related to electoral politics.  It's something we can consent to, because it's kind of a fuck you.  It's not committing to anything other than acknowledging that the system exists and that it's broken.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I think most people of the room may feel that this is a good decision, I think we should think back to the hayday of Occupy Boston with large numbers of people involved, and take into consideration that a lot of those folks are concerned with who becomes president.  I don't think it's a good idea to pass something that might cut us off from a larger group that should be involved.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I could see putting 'none of the above' on the ballot as a regular choice.  I think encouraging people to register to vote violates underlying principles of democracy and direct action.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I said this a couple GA's ago.  This proposal has no solutions, and we need proposals with solutions.  The whole world is watching, and asking &amp;quot;what are your solutions&amp;quot;?  Without solutions, support dwindles, and then Occupy no longer exists.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I really like the first paragraph.  It starts out funny and gets serious.  I don't like what the actual proposal asks for -- we aren't organized enough to make this relevant, so we're just making ourselves irrelevant through this.  Occupy the Movement can't do anything unless it's a mass movement.  Maybe think this might be astart to building this narrative...  I'd support a fleshing-out of the first paragraph that was a little more nuanced, and acknowledged the gray area.  The candidates are bought by the same people, but there are differences, and some of those differences affect lives.  I can't see myself supporting a &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; proposal.  I don't think passing and calling for other occupies to support it is relevant.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm gonna take a wild guess that you've never lived under a dictatorship, or you wouldn't have written the first paragraph.  My concern is the same as these concerns -- as a movement we need to make ourselves relevant to the entire 99%.  This does just the opposite.  Ask people to get involved and do good work.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: This will ostracize the general public who've bought into the mainstream perception of the voting process.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: It's vague.&lt;br /&gt;
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info: Voting &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; isn't apathetic -- it's active.  To the people that are buying the candidates, the difference isn't appreciable.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: The other day we had a whole SAA group conversation around voting.  One conclusion we reached is that Occupy Boston is an unsafe space for those who still like to vote.  Anyone someone says &amp;quot;vote&amp;quot; there's this air of &amp;quot;how dare you&amp;quot;.  I'm concerned that it gets even harder with a statement like this that there is a safe space.  We decided we needed a working group to ensure that we can make it a safe space.  We want to use things like the blue book with who donates to what candidates, and being against those companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: In most electoral processes, there are more than 2 parties, but only 2 get publicity.  My main concern is that we don't shine light on the other parties.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Regarding what Alex said: it's frustrating to be someone who's not a fan of electoral politics to be nice about it.  It's not an indictment of anyone's voting; it's just been frustrating.&lt;br /&gt;
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conern: I think it's a waste of time.  People who join after this proposal can do whatever they want to.  I understand people's concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I support 75-80% of what's been said.  I spent a lot of time trying to convince people of just this.  I just don't think this is the right place or way for us to be doing it.  It's a statement no one will pay attention to, it isn't linked to any solution.  We have a horizontal democracy which is a proactive model we put out as an alternative.  If we say we're trying to represent or be part of the 99%, this is a good thing to be the end of a discussion. When you say to people &amp;quot;it's a farce&amp;quot; as your opening line, they won't listen to your second sentence.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I can't support this because I see it as marginalizing Occupy Boston, making it harder to recruit and involve most people that I interact with.  It doesn't accomplish anything positive.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: It doesn't say loudly enough that we have an alternative democratic model that is more legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: We could do better by having a series of critiques of the electoral system.  We do need an approach to the 2012 election.  This will only hurt the democratic party though -- this is a concern of mine.  We like to think we're speaking to the whole country, but in reality it's just one party.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There might be an opportunity with a statement like this to present something visionary, to communicate with others.  But the language of this proposal doesn't do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There's something passive and laking in content with this.  I sympathize with it, but refusing to endorse a candidate, we will already be making a statement.  Promoting GA democracy as an alternative would be better.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned that Occupy Boston is more focused and concerned about the things that divide us, rather than the things that unite us.  Regardless of the current system, norms, and things people already accept as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Write in our own names in all of the offices, and vote for ourselves, and urge everyone else in the public to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Encourage people to search for third parties and gain knowledge of everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Just endorse Vermin Supreme.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Instead of endorsing &amp;quot;None of the Above&amp;quot;, we suggest that occupies around the country hold general assemblies and rallies as close to voting places as possible to engage in discussion about horizontal democracy.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: A bunch of local anarchists ran &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; last election cycle.  That's why I kind of like this.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Where it says &amp;quot;occupy boston endorses&amp;quot;, I feel this would be better worded as &amp;quot;suggests&amp;quot; rather than endorses.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: I like &amp;quot;encourage&amp;quot; rather than suggest.... and also, &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; or any candidate of your choice.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We reviewed the amendments.  Thanks for the discussion.  We think GA's and rallies close to polling places is excellent, but doesn't belong in this proposal.  We changed the language from 'endorse' to 'suggest', and the second 'endorsed' to 'support'.  We decided also to add &amp;quot;or any alternative candidates&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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question: Are you implying that Rick Santorum would sleep in the same bed with another male candidate?&lt;br /&gt;
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question: You claim that we have only a 2-party system.  Do you know of the other parties such as the green party, independents, and other parties?&lt;br /&gt;
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answer: yes... I am aware.... they would not be considered major parties.  I think most people would agree there are only 2 major parties.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: These other parties are not invited to debate or meaningful participate.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: A two party isn't one with just two parties... it's one where only two have a realistic chance of winning.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: New Zealand has a 6 party system.  The party that supports the rich got voted in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: We have the option to go back into small groups.  Is there energy for that? (temp check says no).&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like the idea of this.  I don't support it wholeheartedly, but support the option to give people an option.  I think most people's concerns are that we shouldn't be doing this at all.  I support it though -- it's how I feel right now.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I could make quibbles about wording, but I support it.  We should keep repeating this as long as possible.  The more you repeat something, the more that meaning strengthens.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There are still a lot of people in this movement who will vote.  I'm one of those.  In that, I feel like people already feel ashamed to be a voter.  Remember, we're probably coming off one of the most active generations for voting.  A lot of them are still not deterred.  Just knowing you'll come into a space where people are publicly anti-voting makes for a harder life.  I want to keep that in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: In your proposal, you have not mentioned anything in the constitution or the representative democracy system.  A lot of people will be turned away from occupy if we say we denounce US voting.  They'll think we're unconstitutional, a bunch of liars.  Add more of our horizontal democracy, and our beliefs about the constitution, that we we don't turn away america, we support it -- in a different system.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Suggesting people could vote for alternative cnadidates goes against Occupy's norm of not suggesting or endorsing candidates.  Referring to the electoral system as broken -- in my view, Occupy Boston wouldn't support even an unbroken electoral system.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: My fundamental concern is the same.  I'm doubly concerned now, because I didn't hear our concerns referenced at all.  I'd like to hear the proposers address those.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I wasn't here the first round.  I prefer us as a movement instead of condemning, building new things and alternatives.  Don't just attack.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: It's 10 past 10.  We need time for evaluations and cleanup.  The question: are there amendments? &lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: My amendments are very simple: mention how we believe in the constitution, and that it's not being represented.  &amp;quot;We believe in the constitution; but the constitution has been violated.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: In the spirit of compromise: encourage people to look for models outside.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We looked at these concerns again...  We've decided to take out the word 'candidate' (it now just says 'and any alternative').  Regarding the concerns that this will ostracize people, we believe this is true, but we believe more people will wake up to this, so we don't believe that it needs to be changed from that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: I didn't particularly want to insert any language specifically supporting the constitution, because I think that drastically changes the proposal to something we weren't intending.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Any blocks?&lt;br /&gt;
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Block: I have concerns that we shouldn't make any statement regarding electoral politics.  And further, this is divisive when we need togetherness.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Does this fit the definition of a block?  (Unanimous approval).&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Who joins ___ in the block? (5 raise hands)&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The proposal has been blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: A successful block doesn't mean that the proposal is dead -- it can come forward after revision.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;= Minutes for 28 September 2012 =&lt;br /&gt;
== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Location Arlington Church&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Time: 7pm to 10:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note taker: Charlie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Introduction to Participatory Budgeting by the [[WG/Financial Accountability|Financial Accountability Working Group]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion of &amp;quot;Denouncing American style democracy&amp;quot; proposal.  Proposal blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Non-violence working group ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
March 17, 100th birthday of ____.  Community gathering Monday night, 6-8:30, C__ church in Boston.  Exploring power and challenges of non-violence.  Next WG meeting Thursday March 1 at 3pm, 7 Pleasant Place in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Food ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food WG is regrouping again.  Meeting Tuesday, Arlington Church, 5:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Media / livestream ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Livestream training Saturday 3:00pm, E5.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Any other opportunity for this?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: No other training set; but contact livestream team and we can teach you.&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Is the training going to be livestreamed?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: We hadn't thought to, but sure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Logistics ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We're working hard still.  Would love to see you there.  We need a big truck, a food tent, and a sink.  logistics@occupyboston.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Tactical ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting tomorrow at Remmington's at 9pm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Financial Accounting Working Group ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please continue to contribute to the space rental found; $320/week.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We haven't had a meeting in a month or so.  Meeting tomorrow, 7pm, at City Place / Transportation building.  Please join us: it's just a bunch of old white folks managing your money, which isn't good.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proposal passed a while ago for a spending freeze on working group dispersements.  We promised to make a recommendation on March 6.  There was a $2000 set-aside for actions; we've spent ~$800.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Screen Print ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We made T-shirts today.  Yay!!!  See me if you want help with screen printing -- or [[ Screen Print Guild ]], facebook page, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spaces ===&lt;br /&gt;
We've had a conversation about visions around space, etc. We decided an affinity group outside OB would be a preferred venue for this. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting Friday 6pm at E5. Spaces needs to interface better with the movement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Facilitation ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Friday 5pm, City Place, sub-group of facilitation for [[GA process and purpose]]. Follow-up from last Tuesday.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Individual Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
* __ left this morning for Georgia to hike the Appalachian Trail.  Will be in Western Mass probably in June or so.&lt;br /&gt;
* My passion outside of OB is Justice for Palestine.  Tufts, BU, Brandeis etc. have speakers running.  I have papers comparing South African apartheid to Palestine.  This week, an outstanding group of speakers at Harvard.  &amp;quot;One State Solution&amp;quot;.  This weekend, Occupy American Israeli Political Action Committee.  This year the focus is on Iran.&lt;br /&gt;
* St. Patrick's day parade pamphlets!  March 18.  There's been a time change: flyer says 2pm, but it'll be 3pm.  This is a permitted march.  Expect 1500 to 2000 people.  Most will depend on y'all getting out there and talking to people.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a proposal Occupy Boston Radio Group to OBGA, will be brought up on Thursday.  Monday 6pm-7pm, Veteran's for peace radio.  Not strictly veteran/military -- you can contribute.  Listen!!&lt;br /&gt;
* Parade planning meeting, 2161 Mass Ave, American Friends Service Committee offices. 6:30pm Thursday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy Lynn GA this Saturday, 3pm, city hall in Lynn.&lt;br /&gt;
* Flyers for the community open house.  They have fronts, and backs.  Hot pink.  April 2, and the first Monday of each month.  If you want to get involved with Open House, Strategic Action Assembly on Sunday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy U Mass Boston!  Thursday March 1, National/International student day of action.  1pm Dewey Square, to State House for rally.  March 15-18, outside events at U-Mass Boston.&lt;br /&gt;
* A cool thing in New York: Occupy Town Square at Thompson Square Park for 6 hours every Sunday.  Think about this, and whether we could do something like it too.&lt;br /&gt;
* The new face of warfare (and surveillance in the US) is drones.  Tomorrow night at 7pm at Cambridge Friends' meeting house, 5 Longfellow Drive in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
30 second pause for reflection&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== Participatory Budgeting and Justice ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''(Presentation from PB&amp;amp;J committee)''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is not just FAWG: We seek full participation from everyone.  PB&amp;amp;J is a working group to develop a budgeting process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Why PB&amp;amp;J?&lt;br /&gt;
* Budget determines allocation.&lt;br /&gt;
* Translates policy goals to action.&lt;br /&gt;
* To prevent control of the budget by elites.&lt;br /&gt;
* Future of OB should not be controlled by the loudest or most popular, or by those best able to manipulate the system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Current monthly deficit -- projected/estimated based on current practice:&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! General funds&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Beginning general funds&lt;br /&gt;
| $66000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Less tactical reserve&lt;br /&gt;
| -$14000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Net working cash&lt;br /&gt;
! $52000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Income&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| GA donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Other unrestricted donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $1000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total general revenues&lt;br /&gt;
! $1750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Expenses&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Rent&lt;br /&gt;
| $2710&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Internet service&lt;br /&gt;
| $470&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Mutual aid&lt;br /&gt;
| $1300&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total&lt;br /&gt;
! $4480 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Deficit&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| deficit before WG expenses&lt;br /&gt;
| -$2730 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| round-up deficit&lt;br /&gt;
| -$3000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Given this deficit, here are three scenarios for 6-month cash flow projection:&lt;br /&gt;
* If expenses don't change, with no WG expenses: After 6 months: $34000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $2,500 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $19000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $5,000 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $4000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* Any expenses beyond this would have to be offset by Working Group fundraising.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''How does PB work?'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Instead of &amp;quot;Announce and defend&amp;quot; (where you present options and pick), engage the community to define things themselves.: Participatory Budgeting employs a set of tools to help make effective decisions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''' History of PB: '''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 1989 -- city of Porto Allegre in Brazil used PB to allow more direct control&lt;br /&gt;
* 2009 -- Chicago's 49th ward launched 1st US experience.&lt;br /&gt;
* Used in Latin America, Europe, Africa and Asia&lt;br /&gt;
* New York: discretionary funds, $6million using this process.&lt;br /&gt;
* Participatory Budgeting: &amp;quot;A fundamental law for revolutionary democracy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''' How to implement in OB? '''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each working group will report budgetary needs and what it will do with the funds.  Together, the WGs look past individual goals to see whole movement opportunities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Q: Does the budget process establish goals, or do goals inform the budget process?&lt;br /&gt;
    A: Working Groups already decide what the actions are that they do.&lt;br /&gt;
    Q: Who gets to decide the goals/vision of movement?  Shouldn't we do that first?&lt;br /&gt;
    A: The process you're asking for -- collective discussion of Occupy's goals -- &lt;br /&gt;
    is what this workshop is.  It's a strategic planning process.  By coming &lt;br /&gt;
    together and sharing knowledge between working groups, there's better &lt;br /&gt;
    creativity and synergy.&lt;br /&gt;
    A: We could spend hte next 3 months trying to figure out our goals. If &lt;br /&gt;
    working groups weren't working in our interests, we'd be up in arms about &lt;br /&gt;
    that.  Through this process, we get more accountability than we already have.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Issues discussed in PB&amp;amp;J meetings'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Avoid becoming an NGO!&lt;br /&gt;
** Don't just sustain the institution rather than change the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* How to handle fundraising?&lt;br /&gt;
** Do we even do it?&lt;br /&gt;
** Should each WG raise its own funds or continue to have a single OB fund?&lt;br /&gt;
* Who else should be participating in these sessions?&lt;br /&gt;
* SWOT -- What are our strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''What's planned so far?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* First workshop:&lt;br /&gt;
** March 25th noon-5pm at New Hope Church in JP&lt;br /&gt;
** Introduction to PB by Maria Green, Northeastern School of Law&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop moderated by Bianpaolo Baiocchi, expert in PB at Brown U, PB project, NYd&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop Output: trial budget&lt;br /&gt;
*** Do budget for 3 months and see how it works out&lt;br /&gt;
* What's accomplished so far?&lt;br /&gt;
** Prepared forms for WGs to outline mission, opportunities, needs&lt;br /&gt;
** Increaesd WG communication&lt;br /&gt;
** WGs need to help each other out.&lt;br /&gt;
* Needed:&lt;br /&gt;
** submit forms describing WG and its needs -- important if you want funding&lt;br /&gt;
** Participate in the process regardless of need&lt;br /&gt;
*** Help guide the direction of OB&lt;br /&gt;
*** Take ownership&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Discussion ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: As a member of FAWG, I realize that there's some tension here.  I played a role here, but FAWG jumped forward and has been building support for this.  Another way to do it would be to put up a proposal to do a PB process in front of GA.  FAWG chose to do it one way, which may have given rise to unrest.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: I'm going to treat this as a gift to the community to understand the process, and then have clarifying questions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: I like the idea of participatory budgets and including everyone.  I feel really uncomfortable with how this process came about.  I'm uncomfortable that we're moving a collective discussion of goals and strategies to something that came out of a working group.  Are we going to be an occupation?  Are we going outdoors or in?  These things need to be decided as a group.  The projections of money lock in a certain vision of us that I'm not ready to lock in.  We could be something totally different in 2-3 months.  We need to decide that as a group and not lock in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: This seems like a great process for cities.  I don't know how it's relevant to us.  We have no idea what we're going to be dealing with in 2 months.  We could be occupying, with big donations, or no longer here at all.  One reason lots of WG's aren't taking part, is that we never decided this is what we're going to do.  There's no decision that the plan will make a difference, or that we're using the process.  This should have come not as a presentation, but a proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: I think this is a great idea -- it can help be a catalyst for the bigger discussion we need to have as a movement.  It needs to go a little more slowly.  First, figure out who we are and where we're going, then go to the budgeting.  We can still bring this to GA, and address it there.  Then, the WG's will be more on board.  Could these meetings/workshops that happen not all happen Monday-Friday 9-5?  There's a lot of folks that can't make it those times.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: This is about planning how to spend money.  We're either going to plan, or we'll spend without planning.  Are we going to have a plan, or first come first serve and then 3 months there's nothing left?  The spending freeze arose out of the fact that we're losing cash so rapidly.  This isn't an issue that can just sit around; 2 months from now that cash balance could be too low if people approve things without a budget.  We have limited resources that are rapidly depleting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: The status quo is to do what we've been doing (first come, first serve).  That's not equitable -- it's who's in front of the line that gets the money. This is a more equitable way of making sure that everyone's voice is heard.  Second: Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Baltimore have been doing this -- though OWS haven't implemented it yet.  We don't want to just teach them; we want to actually do it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: A number of points have been raised that participatory budget serves participatory goals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: It's not a 1-year budget.  We could do it as a 3-month.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: The part I heard -- not necessarily up to the PB&amp;amp;J folks -- there needs to be a process determining the goals, which a budgeting process can work with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Question: Do you believe it's within your authority as a group to decide our budget for the next 3 months?  I don't.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Answer: Think of it as a GA about money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: But it's not a GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: Why not?  I get that we didn't consent to do this process.  But what I've heard my colleagues say is that the process they hope to give and get people involved in is absolutely not FAWG deciding how to make money.  It's FAWG setting up a process for participation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: At the end of 3 months, if htis process exists, will there be a budget OB is committed to?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: Yes -- but it'd have to come back to GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: Timeout.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: There's conflict, misunderstanding, and there needs to be flexibility to achieve clarity.  I'm recognizing that this is a moment when we need clarity.  I'm asking if we can just take a few minutes to clear up a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: Two things: first, our plan (which I didn't have an opportunity to say) is to do monitoring and evaluation, see if it's working, go to GA, and if folks are happy, to adopt it as the process at that point.  That's how it works -- it's not just planning, it's monitoring and evaluation too.  One more point: When we made the participatory budgeting presentation back in 2011, there was a 100% temperature check that people liked it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: The financial analysis at the time were done produently and well; frankly, given the fact that he wasn't paid to do it, above and beyond what was expected.  However, it came from a negative view to the extent that it assumed we wouldn't find any additional fundraising, such as permanant communities, reoccupation, concerts, etc.  Things that would bring money in.  What I'm saying is when business forecast, they forecast speculatively, in a positive light.  If we do this -- let's get to doing this!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
C: I agree with that -- what's presented so far is just what we've got now, and the past couple of months.  That does not say that as spring unfolds we won't do better.  This process isn't trying to limit anything; if that's how it comes across, we aren't communicating well.  I'm applauding that FAWG is grabbing this and trying to get more what people are asking for -- a global, community decision about what to do.  I haven't seen other folks doing that; it doesn't happen at GA.  What it's about is this visionary stuff -- what we want to do.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
D: The majority of the questions are misinterpreting because we put numbers on a screen.  What we are presenting a tool that we can use, regardless of the numbers.  We need methods and tools we can use.  Participatory Budgeting is such a tool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Before Christmas I visited Occupy Providence.  They have no budgeting, but they manage to travel to national conventions.  They have no funds at all.  A good process of us budgeting would be categorizing money into groups on what we as a community together decide, instead of a process of trying to be conservative.  Even if the budget becomes zero, we could take a lesson from Providence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
F: Observations: : We currently don't have a budget.  In the interests of creating a democratic process, we have a working group.  There are people in the GA who believe that process should be ratified by the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: Deep gratitude for a process that just revealed what is already happening.  It's clearly been an important catalyst for people to say &amp;quot;hmm&amp;quot;, what is this not taking into account?  I'm greatful for that being raised.  It's an invitation for people to be involved in defining goals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Summaries:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Denouncing American Style Democracy: American democracy today is a scam.  To express our dissatisfaction, Occupy Boston endorses writing &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; in the coming election.&lt;br /&gt;
* Stop GA other than announcements until we shut down banks. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
* U-Mass Boston wants to borrow a food tank for 4 or 5 days. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Denouncing American style democracy ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. Denouncing American Style Democracy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Initial proposal text:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    American Democracy today is a scam.  All major politicians sleep in&lt;br /&gt;
    the same bed, lined with crisp new bills from the Federal Reserve&lt;br /&gt;
    Bank.  The People are told they have no choice but to vote for one&lt;br /&gt;
    of two candidates.  The truth is that either way we vote, we are&lt;br /&gt;
    still voting to continue the corporate-government complex that&lt;br /&gt;
    funnels money from the People into illegal, meaningless wars, spends&lt;br /&gt;
    trillions on bailing out ineffective multinational banks, and&lt;br /&gt;
    literally is making our planet unlivable for human  and other&lt;br /&gt;
    organisms.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    But there is another choice.  We can decide to protest the two party&lt;br /&gt;
    system through a write-in campaign.  By doing so, we can send a&lt;br /&gt;
    strong message that we refuse to participate in this broken&lt;br /&gt;
    electoral system.  To express our dissatisfaction Occupy Boston&lt;br /&gt;
    endorses writing in on the ballot for President of the USA,&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;quot;none-of-the-above&amp;quot; in this coming election.  We believe the office&lt;br /&gt;
    of President of the United States of America has been purchased by&lt;br /&gt;
    multinational corporations and banks.  Ergo we refuse to acknowledge&lt;br /&gt;
    the validity of any of the major candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Furthermore, we encourage all Occupies and other interested parties&lt;br /&gt;
    around the country to endorse the above mentioned write-in campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
    With enough protest votes we can show the political elite and&lt;br /&gt;
    plutocrats that we refuse to accept their veiled aristocracy and&lt;br /&gt;
    demand that a new political system based on the principles of a true&lt;br /&gt;
    Democracy be established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Do we mean to denounce green and other party candidates?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: We don't mean to reject any options.  This is just one option.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: What kind of numbers are we looking for here?  How many?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: 50 million. :)  What I'd like to see is everyone that doesn't vote writes in none of the above -- but that's not going to happen.  Maybe 2 or 3 percent of the vote.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Is it your intention to say that Occupy Boston will write in &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot;, or we encourage people to do it, or what?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: No... nothing in here states that if you don't write &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; you're no longer in Occupy Boston.  I'd encourage people to do that if they're not satisfied.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: I wonder if you're thinking of this as one step in a greater action.  How do we expand this?  Is this the beginning or end of discussion?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: The last paragraph deos say that we encourage others to endorse this as well.  Were this to pass, there would certainly be outreach at least to the other occupies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: What do you mean to &amp;quot;refuse to participate&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;don't recognize the validity&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The general point is that the major candidates are bought by corporations. Any major candidate, it's intentionally broad.  President only.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Half of qualified electorate are unregistered.  Do you suggest people should register in order to write in none-of-the-above?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: There's no such suggestion in this proposal.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Information: In some states there are no write ins.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Information: You can request one in any state.&lt;br /&gt;
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Small group break-outs&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like this proposal.  I feel like we have an opportunity right now to get a significant percentage of the vote.  We should pick something and go for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I feel like our group as a whole has already denounced American democracy.  I think this proposal should just pass; we've already been doing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this.  One of the biggest challenges is that it's hard to consent to things related to electoral politics.  It's something we can consent to, because it's kind of a fuck you.  It's not committing to anything other than acknowledging that the system exists and that it's broken.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I think most people of the room may feel that this is a good decision, I think we should think back to the hayday of Occupy Boston with large numbers of people involved, and take into consideration that a lot of those folks are concerned with who becomes president.  I don't think it's a good idea to pass something that might cut us off from a larger group that should be involved.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I could see putting 'none of the above' on the ballot as a regular choice.  I think encouraging people to register to vote violates underlying principles of democracy and direct action.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I said this a couple GA's ago.  This proposal has no solutions, and we need proposals with solutions.  The whole world is watching, and asking &amp;quot;what are your solutions&amp;quot;?  Without solutions, support dwindles, and then Occupy no longer exists.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I really like the first paragraph.  It starts out funny and gets serious.  I don't like what the actual proposal asks for -- we aren't organized enough to make this relevant, so we're just making ourselves irrelevant through this.  Occupy the Movement can't do anything unless it's a mass movement.  Maybe think this might be astart to building this narrative...  I'd support a fleshing-out of the first paragraph that was a little more nuanced, and acknowledged the gray area.  The candidates are bought by the same people, but there are differences, and some of those differences affect lives.  I can't see myself supporting a &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; proposal.  I don't think passing and calling for other occupies to support it is relevant.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm gonna take a wild guess that you've never lived under a dictatorship, or you wouldn't have written the first paragraph.  My concern is the same as these concerns -- as a movement we need to make ourselves relevant to the entire 99%.  This does just the opposite.  Ask people to get involved and do good work.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: This will ostracize the general public who've bought into the mainstream perception of the voting process.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: It's vague.&lt;br /&gt;
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info: Voting &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; isn't apathetic -- it's active.  To the people that are buying the candidates, the difference isn't appreciable.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: The other day we had a whole SAA group conversation around voting.  One conclusion we reached is that Occupy Boston is an unsafe space for those who still like to vote.  Anyone someone says &amp;quot;vote&amp;quot; there's this air of &amp;quot;how dare you&amp;quot;.  I'm concerned that it gets even harder with a statement like this that there is a safe space.  We decided we needed a working group to ensure that we can make it a safe space.  We want to use things like the blue book with who donates to what candidates, and being against those companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: In most electoral processes, there are more than 2 parties, but only 2 get publicity.  My main concern is that we don't shine light on the other parties.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Regarding what Alex said: it's frustrating to be someone who's not a fan of electoral politics to be nice about it.  It's not an indictment of anyone's voting; it's just been frustrating.&lt;br /&gt;
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conern: I think it's a waste of time.  People who join after this proposal can do whatever they want to.  I understand people's concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I support 75-80% of what's been said.  I spent a lot of time trying to convince people of just this.  I just don't think this is the right place or way for us to be doing it.  It's a statement no one will pay attention to, it isn't linked to any solution.  We have a horizontal democracy which is a proactive model we put out as an alternative.  If we say we're trying to represent or be part of the 99%, this is a good thing to be the end of a discussion. When you say to people &amp;quot;it's a farce&amp;quot; as your opening line, they won't listen to your second sentence.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I can't support this because I see it as marginalizing Occupy Boston, making it harder to recruit and involve most people that I interact with.  It doesn't accomplish anything positive.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: It doesn't say loudly enough that we have an alternative democratic model that is more legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: We could do better by having a series of critiques of the electoral system.  We do need an approach to the 2012 election.  This will only hurt the democratic party though -- this is a concern of mine.  We like to think we're speaking to the whole country, but in reality it's just one party.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There might be an opportunity with a statement like this to present something visionary, to communicate with others.  But the language of this proposal doesn't do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There's something passive and laking in content with this.  I sympathize with it, but refusing to endorse a candidate, we will already be making a statement.  Promoting GA democracy as an alternative would be better.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned that Occupy Boston is more focused and concerned about the things that divide us, rather than the things that unite us.  Regardless of the current system, norms, and things people already accept as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Write in our own names in all of the offices, and vote for ourselves, and urge everyone else in the public to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Encourage people to search for third parties and gain knowledge of everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Just endorse Vermin Supreme.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Instead of endorsing &amp;quot;None of the Above&amp;quot;, we suggest that occupies around the country hold general assemblies and rallies as close to voting places as possible to engage in discussion about horizontal democracy.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: A bunch of local anarchists ran &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; last election cycle.  That's why I kind of like this.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Where it says &amp;quot;occupy boston endorses&amp;quot;, I feel this would be better worded as &amp;quot;suggests&amp;quot; rather than endorses.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: I like &amp;quot;encourage&amp;quot; rather than suggest.... and also, &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; or any candidate of your choice.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We reviewed the amendments.  Thanks for the discussion.  We think GA's and rallies close to polling places is excellent, but doesn't belong in this proposal.  We changed the language from 'endorse' to 'suggest', and the second 'endorsed' to 'support'.  We decided also to add &amp;quot;or any alternative candidates&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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question: Are you implying that Rick Santorum would sleep in the same bed with another male candidate?&lt;br /&gt;
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question: You claim that we have only a 2-party system.  Do you know of the other parties such as the green party, independents, and other parties?&lt;br /&gt;
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answer: yes... I am aware.... they would not be considered major parties.  I think most people would agree there are only 2 major parties.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: These other parties are not invited to debate or meaningful participate.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: A two party isn't one with just two parties... it's one where only two have a realistic chance of winning.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: New Zealand has a 6 party system.  The party that supports the rich got voted in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: We have the option to go back into small groups.  Is there energy for that? (temp check says no).&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like the idea of this.  I don't support it wholeheartedly, but support the option to give people an option.  I think most people's concerns are that we shouldn't be doing this at all.  I support it though -- it's how I feel right now.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I could make quibbles about wording, but I support it.  We should keep repeating this as long as possible.  The more you repeat something, the more that meaning strengthens.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There are still a lot of people in this movement who will vote.  I'm one of those.  In that, I feel like people already feel ashamed to be a voter.  Remember, we're probably coming off one of the most active generations for voting.  A lot of them are still not deterred.  Just knowing you'll come into a space where people are publicly anti-voting makes for a harder life.  I want to keep that in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: In your proposal, you have not mentioned anything in the constitution or the representative democracy system.  A lot of people will be turned away from occupy if we say we denounce US voting.  They'll think we're unconstitutional, a bunch of liars.  Add more of our horizontal democracy, and our beliefs about the constitution, that we we don't turn away america, we support it -- in a different system.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Suggesting people could vote for alternative cnadidates goes against Occupy's norm of not suggesting or endorsing candidates.  Referring to the electoral system as broken -- in my view, Occupy Boston wouldn't support even an unbroken electoral system.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: My fundamental concern is the same.  I'm doubly concerned now, because I didn't hear our concerns referenced at all.  I'd like to hear the proposers address those.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I wasn't here the first round.  I prefer us as a movement instead of condemning, building new things and alternatives.  Don't just attack.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: It's 10 past 10.  We need time for evaluations and cleanup.  The question: are there amendments? &lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: My amendments are very simple: mention how we believe in the constitution, and that it's not being represented.  &amp;quot;We believe in the constitution; but the constitution has been violated.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: In the spirit of compromise: encourage people to look for models outside.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We looked at these concerns again...  We've decided to take out the word 'candidate' (it now just says 'and any alternative').  Regarding the concerns that this will ostracize people, we believe this is true, but we believe more people will wake up to this, so we don't believe that it needs to be changed from that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: I didn't particularly want to insert any language specifically supporting the constitution, because I think that drastically changes the proposal to something we weren't intending.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Any blocks?&lt;br /&gt;
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Block: I have concerns that we shouldn't make any statement regarding electoral politics.  And further, this is divisive when we need togetherness.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Does this fit the definition of a block?  (Unanimous approval).&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Who joins ___ in the block? (5 raise hands)&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The proposal has been blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: A successful block doesn't mean that the proposal is dead -- it can come forward after revision.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;= Minutes for 1 March 2012 =&lt;br /&gt;
== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Emmanuel Church, 15 Newbury St&lt;br /&gt;
Time: 7:30pm; failed quorum at 9:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
Note taker: Charlie&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal to lend the food tent to Occupy U-Mass Boston: PASSED&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal freeze proposal: TABLED&lt;br /&gt;
* Temp check for future GA time to discuss &amp;quot;fee and dividend&amp;quot; carbon taxation: approved.&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal for future GA time to discuss budgeting: ROLLED FORWARD.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
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March 8 is International Women's day. We'd like to do a different meeting structure then.&lt;br /&gt;
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This sunday March 4, 1:30-3:30pm. At the Democracy Center in Cambridge, in Harvard Square.  Is a forum on the occupy movement, with Chris Forone of the Boston Phoenix, Katy Budowsky, and Betsy ... from Occupy Newton and Occupy the Burbs. http://obr.fm -- free skool university every Wednesday night, various topics of interest to the 99%.  [https://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=YTIyMzBtbGVoZHBuZmdqYWdhMWl0NzBxNWcgOW85MG90NnBsOGJqbWdqcGUzN2J2NWh0NDRAZw&amp;amp;ctz=America/New_York details]&lt;br /&gt;
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Women's Poverty discussion: this Wednesday, March 7.&lt;br /&gt;
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Free Skool working group meeting at the Harvard School co-op.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Financial Accounting Working Group ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Passing the jar -- we need a collection to pay for rent for tonight.  Give what you can.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conversation about Participatory Budgeting started at the last GA, and there was a sense that the conversation needs to continue.  We'll bring a proposal on behalf of FAWG called PB&amp;amp;J -- participatory budgeting and justice.  To continue this conversation, we're asking for 1 hour to be set aside next Tuesday.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is this the same as the working group spending freeze?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: It's related.  FAWG feels a responsibility to have something to guide us for the end of the freeze budget-wise; this could be the solution to that.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Food ===&lt;br /&gt;
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A reminder that food is in the works of reforming yet again.  Will be meeting Tuesday at 5:30pm at Arlington St Church (inside or out, TBA).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Livestream ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Training on Saturday at 2:30pm at E5.  We need volunteers to run livestreams, and people at home to produce.  If you're at home in front of a computer, you can help.&lt;br /&gt;
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All you need is a smartphone to broadcast -- but you don't need one to learn and participate; we have phones to lend out.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Queer Direct Action ===&lt;br /&gt;
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QDAWG -- meeting tomorrow at 5:30 at City Place.  We have an action coming up that it would be great for you to participate in.  Come and join to find out more.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Occupy the MBTA ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting tomorrow at SEIU at 6pm.  The new chief financial officer of Mass DOT is a privatization expert.  It's not looking good.  Help us out!&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Interoccupy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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There's an awesome conference call and campaign tomorrow.  How many of you want to see B of A fall apart?  Tomorrow, 1pm eastern, http://interoccupy.org/bofacall .  Bank of America is a criminal, but is also weak.  We're starting a broad-based campaign to break up Bank of America.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Climate Action, Sustainability ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Next Monday, a protest outside Scott Brown's fundraiser at 5:30pm, in Copley Square, meet at the Boston Public Library steps.  The theme is to dress up like a lobbyist or contributor to Scott Brown.  While they party inside, we'll party outside.  Calling attention to the money he's been taking from fossil fuel industries.&lt;br /&gt;
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We're also planning another campaign outside the Office of America, protesting it's influence on Obama.&lt;br /&gt;
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We're putting together an event as a teach-in about taxing carbon (fee and dividend).  Hosted by Gary Razinski, part of citizen's climate lobby.  Educational event.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GA Process and Purpose ===&lt;br /&gt;
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First meeting tomorrow at 5pm at City Place.  We hope to define what the group is.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Individual announcements ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tuesday, H1371, an act to regulate and tax the Cannabis industry is being heard at the statehouse.  I'll be meeting up with some people at Dewey at 12:00 noon.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Thankful Thursday ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Today a student group had a march.  We blocked the streets, the cops got mad, and they started using a loud siren we'd never heard before (maybe a small vehicle-mounted LRAD?).  It made me feel really good to get out in the streets again.&lt;br /&gt;
* I got a new job, and have a new corporate overlord.  I'm thankful because I get payed a little more, which provides the illusion of progress the capitalist system needs for me to continue participating.  I'm joing the ranks of the new proletariate, the data enterers of the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* Looks like I'm gonna survive the bureaucracy I've been in for the past 3 months.  I'm gonna be OK.&lt;br /&gt;
* I was in court today (bankruptcy) when I heard Occupy Boston outside the window, marching past.  Everyone looked at me.  This is the second week in a row that I've heard that.  I love it.  I think y'all should do stuff every Thursday during business hours so I personally can hear it.&lt;br /&gt;
* I'm thankful for Gorge's blog, hiking the AT.&lt;br /&gt;
* I'm thankful for a nice Occupy the MBTA video on the website.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Two rollover proposals:&lt;br /&gt;
* Lending food tent to Occupy U-Mass Boston &lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal freeze proposal&lt;br /&gt;
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Summaries of the two new proposals:&lt;br /&gt;
* A request to set aside 15 minutes at some future GA to do a short presentation and question/answer about fee and dividend carbon taxes.&lt;br /&gt;
* A request to set aside 1 hour of GA time next Tuesday, March 6, to answer the question: should OB create a budget, and if so, what process to use?&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Occupy U-Mass Boston Spring Break ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Occupy U-Mass Boston is holding March 15th-185h an &amp;quot;Occupy Spring Break&amp;quot; from March 15th to 18th.  We want to borrow the food tent.  We have permission from the administration, and a guarantee that there will not be a raid, and they will not take our tent.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Where will it be set up?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Either in front of the campus center, or in front of the quinn building.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What are the dates you wan thte tent for?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The 14th to the 18th of March.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Would y'all coordinate transportation of it?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: I think that's going to be part of the proposal -- the only person with a vehicle in our group doesn't have a truck.  We could reimburse someone, even if we have to pay out of pocket for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: So you'll add to the proposal that you'll reimburse transit costs?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes, we'd like OB to help with a truck if we can't find other transportation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Are there going to be other tents?  Could this be bigger?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: We're inviting people to come and set things up.  We just want the food tent as the centerpiece.  There'll be music, teach-ins, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is anyone here from logistics, or have y'all talked to logistics?  I don't know anything about where the tent is, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The last time we spoke to logistics, they were holding the tent, and waiting to move the tent until this proposal is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: since there are so few people here, do you want small group discussions? (no...) OK, moving on to statements of support.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: This is a fantastic idea.  I support it also because of your radio tent t-shirt.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support it because we have it, and should use it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support it because it makes OB visible again, even via U-Mass.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Any statements of concern? (none) Amendments? (none)  Questions, information, concern or support? (none)  Any blocks? (no)  PROPOSAL PASSES.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Proposal freeze ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposal: That the Boston GA put a freeze on all proposals, statements of solidarity, etc., and other action besides announcements, until we shut down at least 2 banks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Why do you want this?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: To bring to light that there should be more action proposals brought to GA.  OB hasn't done as much direct action as it could be.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: When you say bank, do you mean bank branch, and for a temporary amount of time?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: That could work.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you care how the bank is closed?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No.  I'm not trying to get people arrested, or encouraging others to get arrested.  If someone wants to, that's their perogative; but I'm not encouraging it.  Personal autonomy is important.  Diversity of tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What would constitute shutting down a bank, even if just for 5 minutes?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: One example would be preventing people from coming and going.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: I heard your reason for doing this is your belief that we don't have enough action.  Have you been on individual stacks to talk about this before coming with the proposal?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No.  But part of it is that I feel that there's a lot of bureaucracy going on, and this could pave the way for more action-oriented proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you think that doing other kinds of organizing are preventing people from having time for autonomous action?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No... but I think the people who go to GA's are at most GA's.  This speaks to getting direct action out of GA instead of SAA or other venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Information: Banks are closed during the time of GA's.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you feel that the bureaucracy you were talking about is only at General Assemblies?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Then why only ask about GA's?  Why eliminate GA's specifically?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Because it would be counter-intuitive to stop the Strategic Action Assembly.  I don't think it would be fair to shut down working group meetings.  All decisions are ultimately made at the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Have you thought about just planning actions and organizing people around them?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.  And I know people would come... but I think it's a good discussion to have in GA about the process of the GA.  I think it's worth the time to have a discussion about action-oriented proposals that wouldn't happen in a working group meeting or SAA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What is the aim for shutting down the bank?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Because it stops the bank from making money.  We came together because of banks, and I wanted to redirect attention to that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Information: Banks make money whether they're open or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: I need some clarification for why you chose to do it this way, instead of bringing it to working groups, instead of the small population that comes to GA.  Even if you were to say that it's 100 people who hear it, why would you move to halt the GA instead of organizing actions?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: I don't know how many people follow the GA, or how to keep account of that, via notes, past proposals, etc.  More pay attention than those physically present.  It's not specifically my cause; I'm bringing it to the community for discussion, and the GA is a good place for that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: There are a bunch of working groups who've brought proposals to repurpose GA time.  Why instead of halting GA, don't we repurpose GA time for action planning?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: To set aside time to plan for an action at GA would be counter-intuitive; that's what SAA is for.  But my point in bringing the proposal is to spur this discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: How specifically would banks be shut down, and once we've done it, what's the longer-term aim?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: There's no way to shut down a bank completely, it's impossible.  But: there is a way to shut down transactions at a branch for a short time.  This is infinitely small in the scheme of things, but could spur more action in general, and change the tone and expectations of GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: My experience as an organizer is that taking to the streets is great, but without other structure to support it, can be counter-productive.  Do you think it's productive?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes, I think it's productive.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is this two actions, even if unsuccessful?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.  The proposal is just that OB take direct action, not that the action succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Are you saying that GA would endorse, or cold endorse, actions as GA rather than autonomous actions out of SAA or other working groups?  Is this distinguish movement-wide actions from working grou pactions?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.  GA has endorsed actions before.  We did that Saturday.  There was a nationwide action against ALEC yesterday.  We also endorsed a Worcester action.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Would you consider amendments to not shut down the whole of GA?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Possibly.  I worded it very basically, knowing it could be modified.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: The proposal isn't to expose corrupt lending or something, but to close it specifically?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Well, you could do the direct action in any way which results in closure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Who judges if an action is an intention to close the bank?  Are there some qualifications that would have to be met?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Well, it could be announced in GA, but security culture would say don't do that.  I think we as a whole would be a judge of whether or not an action counts.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What would be happening during a GA?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Annoncements only.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you already have plans to share?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: If you have these plans, why shut down GA?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The proposal is here to spur this conversation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: If this proposal passes, do we just get up and walk out, because GA is suspended?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.  The meeting would adjourn immediately.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you think it'd be more productive to issue action-oriented proposals rather than shutting all proposals down?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Maybe.&lt;br /&gt;
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Point of process: It seems that these questions really have an undertone of concern.  Maybe we can move on to concerns?&lt;br /&gt;
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Point of process: One reason for questions is to give a chance to articulate responses; where concerns don't get direct responses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Point of process: The process serves two purposes: to inform voters, and to make sure concerns are addressed as much as possible.  Asking questions can alleviate your concern.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Since every action is on livestream, and you just announced something tomorrow, doesn't this defeat security culture?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: It's just an example, not an actual plan for action.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What happens if we decide to have GA anyway?  Is there a punishment?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: We'll all feel like jerks.  I'll call a point of process.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Could we just announce 'the decision making body' meets, and call it that?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: You could do that, but I'd be unhappy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you really want this to pass, or just for us to talk about it?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: I really want it to pass (but the talking is important).&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Don't you think that shutting down GA delegitimizes other people's concerns, and making yours the only valuable one?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes. Someone has brought me this concern already.  I don't think this delegitemizes other people's opinions.  Honestly; if it passes, I don't think we'll miss the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Information: Since it would have to be passed by a super majority, and could be blocked by 10%, the maximum percentage of people whose opinions could be delegitemized by this is 9%.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What about emergency proposals, like bail money?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: I think that would be ok.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Would this be focused on retail bank outlets, as opposed to Deutsche bank or something?  The former is the easiest to shut down.  Is tha the focus?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: That would be my focus, because it's easier.  But if others chose to take a different action, that's their choice and I'd support it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: If you amended the proposal to have a GA in a bank, would the question of having action-oriented proposals still stand?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Well.. I wouldn't encourage that, because it would probably result in arrests.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you think there's a subtext of anti-intellectualism in this proposal?&lt;br /&gt;
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Point of process: That was clearly a concern, not a question.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Would you consider legal actions if they were as effective?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes. Legal actions are fine.  Occupy Oakland bought ice cream, showed up to a bank, and it closed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is the ice cream vegan?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Knowing Oakland, probably.&lt;br /&gt;
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Information: There've been a lot of questions that seem framed to express concern.  But as a point of information, I like this proposal, and I don't think this is anti-intellectual.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this proposal, with the expectation of amendments.  I appreciate the spirit under which it is brought.  It would be terrific for GA to do some direct action out in the world together.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I think the proposal is awesome!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I also support the spirit of the proposal, with several amendments.  I support the concept of the GA or the community as a whole doing coordinated action.  I think there was a lot of fruitful discussion that we had here, such as Occupy Boston becoming splintered groups.  This proposal could provide an opportunity to do it the right way.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this because I think it's awesome!!&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support it but in a more nuanced way.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support the idea of having time in a GA for groups to discuss potential actions together.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I really like the proposal and the discussion that's come from it.  I like how it illustrates what we've been lacking since we got kicked out of Dewey.  I'm not sure that this decision making process is the best way to go about doing it, but I'm glad for the conversation.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this because it would be beneficial to be more focused on actions.  I believe actions are what piques people's interest.  The beginning of occupy had so much energy and positivity.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like that this recreates a different place from SAA, and creates the idea of Occupy Boston being action per se, rather than in mini group actions.  &lt;br /&gt;
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support: I want to add on to that: I support the idea of moving back towards more action.  Occupy Boston itself at Dewey square was one direct action, a massive statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support it not because it prioritizes action over discussion and thoughtfulness, but for its ability to make the actions more thoughtful by bringing more people together.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this because it prioritizes this activity -- whipping up outrage at the naked greed that is behind the economic disparities impacting the 99%.  We're trying to model a just, equitable, and fair set of social relations.  Implied in the proposal is an indictment of the introspection in the GA -- but I prefer a focus on the former, rather than the latter.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this because shutting down 2 banks makes way more sense than coming to GA on Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: This proposal seems really awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I like hte idea of having GA's be able to focus more on a range of things, including large scale collectively-determined actions or activities.  I'm very concerned that the penalty of cancelling GA's except for announcements is really, really, really, really, really, really bad precedent.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: We've built potential, and we don't want to squander it.  We need to do something to reignite our passion again.  It's not nearly as powerful an action as it ought to be, however -- which could constrict our ambitions.  Only announcements at GA isn't as good as providing time at GA to discuss actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I don't think our problem is not enough action.  There's been all sorts of action around occupy MBTA, education, student activity, etc.  Clearly not as much as when we were together 24x7 in a sustained group for months.  Eviction definitely presented a large challenge that we haven't fully overcome yet.  It was never the case that we planned actions at GA; they were planned outside of it.  I understand where this is coming from, and I share concerns about the direction OB is headed in.  I don't think this proposal solves it.  We need to think big picture and holistically about our strategy and goals.  We're not a train, we can stop this thing and turn it around.  But we need to have a bigger conversation.  I'd like to see more of that, rather than the focus on a couple bank closures as compensating for our issues right now.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: My main values as an organizer is anti-capitalism and non-hierarchical democracy.  Instead of voting, people get together and organize themselves.  Getting together and making decisions is incredibly important -- movements that are just in the streets arent as powerful.  This feels undemocratic and coercive.  I think it's more functional and practical to bring up proposals for action.  It's like saying &amp;quot;my organizing is important&amp;quot;, and yours isn't, which feels wrong.  Spokes, SAA, and others are good venues for planning actions.  I'm excited in direct democracy.  How can we make a decision making process we can use, to build a better world?  I think I'm too annoyed to be as articulate as I'd like to be.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned that this self referential and pedantic concern isn't self referential and pedantic enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I have a number of concerns... one is that I don't think this plan is that well conceived or articulated.  In particular, shutting down a branch for 5-10 minutes hurts customers more than it hurts the bank, unless it causes some kind of public relations benefit. My biggest concern is that I do not think it is appropriate for one General Assembly to tell future GA's what they may or may not discuss.  If we want more action-oriented discussion, there are several ways to do it -- one is to bring action-oriented proposals to GA, and argue them articulately.  If we can't argue these proposals on their merits, who are we to tell people that they can't discuss anything else?  We could procedurally amplify action proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: You can have an action that hinders your cause.  This proposal asks for an action so ill-planned that it hinders the cause.  If you ask for a bad action, you threaten the loss of something.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I think it's kind of wack how it's in the form of an ultimatum -- no this until that.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: My largest concern is that there are necessary things that happen during GA.  It's the head of the movement right now, and where people can bring concerns.  I feel like that's fundamental to the survival of this group right now, in a critical transitional period.  &lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Whether it's the intention of this or not, it'll feel disrespectful to say that bcause we need to be action-oriented, we should stop solidarity.  It feels horrible to me.  I also dislike the ultimatum format.  To come into a conversation and not be straight forward (like &amp;quot;I want to talk about this thing...&amp;quot;) feels extremely disrespectful.  To bring it as a proposal feels dishonest.  As someone who values integrity a lot, I'm very concerned that this has happened not just because it's happened, but because others might think it's an OK way to go.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Diversity is important; It's poor not to be able to express international solidarity.  If you're going to do things, plan carefully.  As someone who does legal support, it sucks -- just plan well and you won't need to.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned that we don't have enough people here to be well-received by the wider community.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned about the ultimatum nature as well.  It gets to something that irks me from &amp;quot;the coming insurrection&amp;quot;, anarcho-hipsterism, get rid of organizational structure and just do actions.  I dislike that trend because we live in a society with a lot of hipsters.&lt;br /&gt;
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proposer: Calling quorum.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: If we decide we don't have quorum, discussion ends now?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: It means we can't conclude this proposal; but we could continue to talk.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Will we continue to talk?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: It's up to y'all.&lt;br /&gt;
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proposer: Can I table this and let the other proposals come forward?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: You can always do that.  Are you no longer calling quorum?&lt;br /&gt;
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proposer: I called quorum based on the concern.  There might be a different judgment of quorum for the other proposers.  I withdraw my request for quorum, and table the proposal instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned with how this conversation is going.  What's been proposed is very different from what's been brought to GA before.  There's been personal criticism of the proposer; and I hope this won't chill other proposers from bringing proposals to ask the GA to take unified action.  We limit what can be said here by having an agenda and structure, and we've lost people over that.  This is a novel approach to how we could come toether as a community, and hope we can continue to have positive reception to it in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Even though he withdrew his call for quorum, I'm concerned with the small number of people here.&lt;br /&gt;
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facilitator: Are you calling quorum?&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: no, I'm leaving, I don't really care.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fee and Dividend discussion proposal ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Are people interested in setting aside 15 minutes of a future GA to talk about fee and dividend carbon taxation?  The reason to bring it to a GA is to get a sense of people's thoughts and concerns before we bring the presentation and question/answer session for it.  There are different methods for implementing carbon tax, and along with localized efforts, is one of the national strategies for rapidly reducing emissions in this country.  There's reason to believe that if the US did this, other countries would follow our lead.  There's a time limit -- if groups and people aren't motivated and educated to take action on this in the next few years, we're locked into a major climate change by 2020 if not before, which is a threshold point for catastrophes we may not be able to adapt to as a species.  Just 15 minutes to discuss it at a future GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Which GA?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: That's up in the air.  I just want to get an idea; and then I'm scheduling an expert to come and talk to us.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What's that term?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Fee and dividend.  You tax carbon when it enters the atmosphere, and distribute the dividend, according to whatever way specified by the legislation.&lt;br /&gt;
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process: I have to leave, I'd like to call quorum.&lt;br /&gt;
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facilitator: Are you asking for a specific time at a specific GA, or in general?&lt;br /&gt;
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proposer: If people are interested in a guy not with occupy boston coming, that could be next week.  But if it folks want a representative from the environmental committee, it might be next week.&lt;br /&gt;
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faiclitator: temp check for next week: general approval.&lt;br /&gt;
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facilitator: temp check for the following week: general approval.&lt;br /&gt;
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facilitator: call for quorum: Quorum is if you believe that a fair representation of Occupy Boston is present.  At this time, raise your time if you believe that you do have quorum?&lt;br /&gt;
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facilitator: I see 3 hands.  We don't have quorum to continue to hear proposals.  We have space for another hour; we can keep talking, but no proposals can be decided.&lt;br /&gt;
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Location: Emmanuel Church, 15 Newbury St&lt;br /&gt;
Time: 7:30pm; failed quorum at 9:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
Note taker: Charlie&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal to lend the food tent to Occupy U-Mass Boston: PASSED&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal freeze proposal: TABLED&lt;br /&gt;
* Temp check for future GA time to discuss &amp;quot;fee and dividend&amp;quot; carbon taxation: approved.&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal for future GA time to discuss budgeting: ROLLED FORWARD.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
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March 8 is International Women's day. We'd like to do a different meeting structure then.&lt;br /&gt;
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This sunday March 4, 1:30-3:30pm. At the Democracy Center in Cambridge, in Harvard Square.  Is a forum on the occupy movement, with Chris Forone of the Boston Phoenix, Katy Budowsky, and Betsy ... from Occupy Newton and Occupy the Burbs. http://obr.fm -- free skool university every Wednesday night, various topics of interest to the 99%.  [https://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=YTIyMzBtbGVoZHBuZmdqYWdhMWl0NzBxNWcgOW85MG90NnBsOGJqbWdqcGUzN2J2NWh0NDRAZw&amp;amp;ctz=America/New_York details]&lt;br /&gt;
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Women's Poverty discussion: this Wednesday, March 7.&lt;br /&gt;
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Free Skool working group meeting at the Harvard School co-op.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Financial Accounting Working Group ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Passing the jar -- we need a collection to pay for rent for tonight.  Give what you can.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conversation about Participatory Budgeting started at the last GA, and there was a sense that the conversation needs to continue.  We'll bring a proposal on behalf of FAWG called PB&amp;amp;J -- participatory budgeting and justice.  To continue this conversation, we're asking for 1 hour to be set aside next Tuesday.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is this the same as the working group spending freeze?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: It's related.  FAWG feels a responsibility to have something to guide us for the end of the freeze budget-wise; this could be the solution to that.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Food ===&lt;br /&gt;
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A reminder that food is in the works of reforming yet again.  Will be meeting Tuesday at 5:30pm at Arlington St Church (inside or out, TBA).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Livestream ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Training on Saturday at 2:30pm at E5.  We need volunteers to run livestreams, and people at home to produce.  If you're at home in front of a computer, you can help.&lt;br /&gt;
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All you need is a smartphone to broadcast -- but you don't need one to learn and participate; we have phones to lend out.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Queer Direct Action ===&lt;br /&gt;
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QDAWG -- meeting tomorrow at 5:30 at City Place.  We have an action coming up that it would be great for you to participate in.  Come and join to find out more.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Occupy the MBTA ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting tomorrow at SEIU at 6pm.  The new chief financial officer of Mass DOT is a privatization expert.  It's not looking good.  Help us out!&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Interoccupy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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There's an awesome conference call and campaign tomorrow.  How many of you want to see B of A fall apart?  Tomorrow, 1pm eastern, http://interoccupy.org/bofacall .  Bank of America is a criminal, but is also weak.  We're starting a broad-based campaign to break up Bank of America.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Climate Action, Sustainability ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Next Monday, a protest outside Scott Brown's fundraiser at 5:30pm, in Copley Square, meet at the Boston Public Library steps.  The theme is to dress up like a lobbyist or contributor to Scott Brown.  While they party inside, we'll party outside.  Calling attention to the money he's been taking from fossil fuel industries.&lt;br /&gt;
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We're also planning another campaign outside the Office of America, protesting it's influence on Obama.&lt;br /&gt;
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We're putting together an event as a teach-in about taxing carbon (fee and dividend).  Hosted by Gary Razinski, part of citizen's climate lobby.  Educational event.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GA Process and Purpose ===&lt;br /&gt;
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First meeting tomorrow at 5pm at City Place.  We hope to define what the group is.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Individual announcements ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tuesday, H1371, an act to regulate and tax the Cannabis industry is being heard at the statehouse.  I'll be meeting up with some people at Dewey at 12:00 noon.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Thankful Thursday ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Today a student group had a march.  We blocked the streets, the cops got mad, and they started using a loud siren we'd never heard before (maybe a small vehicle-mounted LRAD?).  It made me feel really good to get out in the streets again.&lt;br /&gt;
* I got a new job, and have a new corporate overlord.  I'm thankful because I get payed a little more, which provides the illusion of progress the capitalist system needs for me to continue participating.  I'm joing the ranks of the new proletariate, the data enterers of the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* Looks like I'm gonna survive the bureaucracy I've been in for the past 3 months.  I'm gonna be OK.&lt;br /&gt;
* I was in court today (bankruptcy) when I heard Occupy Boston outside the window, marching past.  Everyone looked at me.  This is the second week in a row that I've heard that.  I love it.  I think y'all should do stuff every Thursday during business hours so I personally can hear it.&lt;br /&gt;
* I'm thankful for Gorge's blog, hiking the AT.&lt;br /&gt;
* I'm thankful for a nice Occupy the MBTA video on the website.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Two rollover proposals:&lt;br /&gt;
* Lending food tent to Occupy U-Mass Boston &lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal freeze proposal&lt;br /&gt;
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* A request to set aside 15 minutes at some future GA to do a short presentation and question/answer about fee and dividend carbon taxes.&lt;br /&gt;
* A request to set aside 1 hour of GA time next Tuesday, March 6, to answer the question: should OB create a budget, and if so, what process to use?&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Occupy U-Mass Boston Spring Break ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Occupy U-Mass Boston is holding March 15th-185h an &amp;quot;Occupy Spring Break&amp;quot; from March 15th to 18th.  We want to borrow the food tent.  We have permission from the administration, and a guarantee that there will not be a raid, and they will not take our tent.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Where will it be set up?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Either in front of the campus center, or in front of the quinn building.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What are the dates you wan thte tent for?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The 14th to the 18th of March.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Would y'all coordinate transportation of it?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: I think that's going to be part of the proposal -- the only person with a vehicle in our group doesn't have a truck.  We could reimburse someone, even if we have to pay out of pocket for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: So you'll add to the proposal that you'll reimburse transit costs?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes, we'd like OB to help with a truck if we can't find other transportation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Are there going to be other tents?  Could this be bigger?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: We're inviting people to come and set things up.  We just want the food tent as the centerpiece.  There'll be music, teach-ins, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is anyone here from logistics, or have y'all talked to logistics?  I don't know anything about where the tent is, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The last time we spoke to logistics, they were holding the tent, and waiting to move the tent until this proposal is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: since there are so few people here, do you want small group discussions? (no...) OK, moving on to statements of support.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: This is a fantastic idea.  I support it also because of your radio tent t-shirt.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support it because we have it, and should use it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support it because it makes OB visible again, even via U-Mass.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Any statements of concern? (none) Amendments? (none)  Questions, information, concern or support? (none)  Any blocks? (no)  PROPOSAL PASSES.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Proposal freeze ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposal: That the Boston GA put a freeze on all proposals, statements of solidarity, etc., and other action besides announcements, until we shut down at least 2 banks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Why do you want this?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: To bring to light that there should be more action proposals brought to GA.  OB hasn't done as much direct action as it could be.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: When you say bank, do you mean bank branch, and for a temporary amount of time?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: That could work.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you care how the bank is closed?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No.  I'm not trying to get people arrested, or encouraging others to get arrested.  If someone wants to, that's their perogative; but I'm not encouraging it.  Personal autonomy is important.  Diversity of tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What would constitute shutting down a bank, even if just for 5 minutes?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: One example would be preventing people from coming and going.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: I heard your reason for doing this is your belief that we don't have enough action.  Have you been on individual stacks to talk about this before coming with the proposal?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No.  But part of it is that I feel that there's a lot of bureaucracy going on, and this could pave the way for more action-oriented proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you think that doing other kinds of organizing are preventing people from having time for autonomous action?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No... but I think the people who go to GA's are at most GA's.  This speaks to getting direct action out of GA instead of SAA or other venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Information: Banks are closed during the time of GA's.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you feel that the bureaucracy you were talking about is only at General Assemblies?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: No.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Then why only ask about GA's?  Why eliminate GA's specifically?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Because it would be counter-intuitive to stop the Strategic Action Assembly.  I don't think it would be fair to shut down working group meetings.  All decisions are ultimately made at the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Have you thought about just planning actions and organizing people around them?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.  And I know people would come... but I think it's a good discussion to have in GA about the process of the GA.  I think it's worth the time to have a discussion about action-oriented proposals that wouldn't happen in a working group meeting or SAA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What is the aim for shutting down the bank?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Because it stops the bank from making money.  We came together because of banks, and I wanted to redirect attention to that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Information: Banks make money whether they're open or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: I need some clarification for why you chose to do it this way, instead of bringing it to working groups, instead of the small population that comes to GA.  Even if you were to say that it's 100 people who hear it, why would you move to halt the GA instead of organizing actions?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: I don't know how many people follow the GA, or how to keep account of that, via notes, past proposals, etc.  More pay attention than those physically present.  It's not specifically my cause; I'm bringing it to the community for discussion, and the GA is a good place for that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: There are a bunch of working groups who've brought proposals to repurpose GA time.  Why instead of halting GA, don't we repurpose GA time for action planning?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: To set aside time to plan for an action at GA would be counter-intuitive; that's what SAA is for.  But my point in bringing the proposal is to spur this discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: How specifically would banks be shut down, and once we've done it, what's the longer-term aim?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: There's no way to shut down a bank completely, it's impossible.  But: there is a way to shut down transactions at a branch for a short time.  This is infinitely small in the scheme of things, but could spur more action in general, and change the tone and expectations of GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: My experience as an organizer is that taking to the streets is great, but without other structure to support it, can be counter-productive.  Do you think it's productive?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes, I think it's productive.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is this two actions, even if unsuccessful?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.  The proposal is just that OB take direct action, not that the action succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Are you saying that GA would endorse, or cold endorse, actions as GA rather than autonomous actions out of SAA or other working groups?  Is this distinguish movement-wide actions from working grou pactions?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.  GA has endorsed actions before.  We did that Saturday.  There was a nationwide action against ALEC yesterday.  We also endorsed a Worcester action.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Would you consider amendments to not shut down the whole of GA?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Possibly.  I worded it very basically, knowing it could be modified.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: The proposal isn't to expose corrupt lending or something, but to close it specifically?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Well, you could do the direct action in any way which results in closure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Who judges if an action is an intention to close the bank?  Are there some qualifications that would have to be met?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Well, it could be announced in GA, but security culture would say don't do that.  I think we as a whole would be a judge of whether or not an action counts.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What would be happening during a GA?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Annoncements only.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you already have plans to share?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: If you have these plans, why shut down GA?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The proposal is here to spur this conversation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: If this proposal passes, do we just get up and walk out, because GA is suspended?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes.  The meeting would adjourn immediately.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you think it'd be more productive to issue action-oriented proposals rather than shutting all proposals down?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Maybe.&lt;br /&gt;
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Point of process: It seems that these questions really have an undertone of concern.  Maybe we can move on to concerns?&lt;br /&gt;
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Point of process: One reason for questions is to give a chance to articulate responses; where concerns don't get direct responses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Point of process: The process serves two purposes: to inform voters, and to make sure concerns are addressed as much as possible.  Asking questions can alleviate your concern.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Since every action is on livestream, and you just announced something tomorrow, doesn't this defeat security culture?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: It's just an example, not an actual plan for action.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What happens if we decide to have GA anyway?  Is there a punishment?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: We'll all feel like jerks.  I'll call a point of process.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Could we just announce 'the decision making body' meets, and call it that?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: You could do that, but I'd be unhappy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you really want this to pass, or just for us to talk about it?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: I really want it to pass (but the talking is important).&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Don't you think that shutting down GA delegitimizes other people's concerns, and making yours the only valuable one?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes. Someone has brought me this concern already.  I don't think this delegitemizes other people's opinions.  Honestly; if it passes, I don't think we'll miss the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Information: Since it would have to be passed by a super majority, and could be blocked by 10%, the maximum percentage of people whose opinions could be delegitemized by this is 9%.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What about emergency proposals, like bail money?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: I think that would be ok.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Would this be focused on retail bank outlets, as opposed to Deutsche bank or something?  The former is the easiest to shut down.  Is tha the focus?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: That would be my focus, because it's easier.  But if others chose to take a different action, that's their choice and I'd support it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: If you amended the proposal to have a GA in a bank, would the question of having action-oriented proposals still stand?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Well.. I wouldn't encourage that, because it would probably result in arrests.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Do you think there's a subtext of anti-intellectualism in this proposal?&lt;br /&gt;
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Point of process: That was clearly a concern, not a question.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Would you consider legal actions if they were as effective?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes. Legal actions are fine.  Occupy Oakland bought ice cream, showed up to a bank, and it closed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is the ice cream vegan?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Knowing Oakland, probably.&lt;br /&gt;
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Information: There've been a lot of questions that seem framed to express concern.  But as a point of information, I like this proposal, and I don't think this is anti-intellectual.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this proposal, with the expectation of amendments.  I appreciate the spirit under which it is brought.  It would be terrific for GA to do some direct action out in the world together.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I think the proposal is awesome!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I also support the spirit of the proposal, with several amendments.  I support the concept of the GA or the community as a whole doing coordinated action.  I think there was a lot of fruitful discussion that we had here, such as Occupy Boston becoming splintered groups.  This proposal could provide an opportunity to do it the right way.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this because I think it's awesome!!&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support it but in a more nuanced way.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support the idea of having time in a GA for groups to discuss potential actions together.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I really like the proposal and the discussion that's come from it.  I like how it illustrates what we've been lacking since we got kicked out of Dewey.  I'm not sure that this decision making process is the best way to go about doing it, but I'm glad for the conversation.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this because it would be beneficial to be more focused on actions.  I believe actions are what piques people's interest.  The beginning of occupy had so much energy and positivity.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like that this recreates a different place from SAA, and creates the idea of Occupy Boston being action per se, rather than in mini group actions.  &lt;br /&gt;
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support: I want to add on to that: I support the idea of moving back towards more action.  Occupy Boston itself at Dewey square was one direct action, a massive statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support it not because it prioritizes action over discussion and thoughtfulness, but for its ability to make the actions more thoughtful by bringing more people together.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this because it prioritizes this activity -- whipping up outrage at the naked greed that is behind the economic disparities impacting the 99%.  We're trying to model a just, equitable, and fair set of social relations.  Implied in the proposal is an indictment of the introspection in the GA -- but I prefer a focus on the former, rather than the latter.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this because shutting down 2 banks makes way more sense than coming to GA on Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: This proposal seems really awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I like hte idea of having GA's be able to focus more on a range of things, including large scale collectively-determined actions or activities.  I'm very concerned that the penalty of cancelling GA's except for announcements is really, really, really, really, really, really bad precedent.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: We've built potential, and we don't want to squander it.  We need to do something to reignite our passion again.  It's not nearly as powerful an action as it ought to be, however -- which could constrict our ambitions.  Only announcements at GA isn't as good as providing time at GA to discuss actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I don't think our problem is not enough action.  There's been all sorts of action around occupy MBTA, education, student activity, etc.  Clearly not as much as when we were together 24x7 in a sustained group for months.  Eviction definitely presented a large challenge that we haven't fully overcome yet.  It was never the case that we planned actions at GA; they were planned outside of it.  I understand where this is coming from, and I share concerns about the direction OB is headed in.  I don't think this proposal solves it.  We need to think big picture and holistically about our strategy and goals.  We're not a train, we can stop this thing and turn it around.  But we need to have a bigger conversation.  I'd like to see more of that, rather than the focus on a couple bank closures as compensating for our issues right now.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: My main values as an organizer is anti-capitalism and non-hierarchical democracy.  Instead of voting, people get together and organize themselves.  Getting together and making decisions is incredibly important -- movements that are just in the streets arent as powerful.  This feels undemocratic and coercive.  I think it's more functional and practical to bring up proposals for action.  It's like saying &amp;quot;my organizing is important&amp;quot;, and yours isn't, which feels wrong.  Spokes, SAA, and others are good venues for planning actions.  I'm excited in direct democracy.  How can we make a decision making process we can use, to build a better world?  I think I'm too annoyed to be as articulate as I'd like to be.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned that this self referential and pedantic concern isn't self referential and pedantic enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I have a number of concerns... one is that I don't think this plan is that well conceived or articulated.  In particular, shutting down a branch for 5-10 minutes hurts customers more than it hurts the bank, unless it causes some kind of public relations benefit. My biggest concern is that I do not think it is appropriate for one General Assembly to tell future GA's what they may or may not discuss.  If we want more action-oriented discussion, there are several ways to do it -- one is to bring action-oriented proposals to GA, and argue them articulately.  If we can't argue these proposals on their merits, who are we to tell people that they can't discuss anything else?  We could procedurally amplify action proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: You can have an action that hinders your cause.  This proposal asks for an action so ill-planned that it hinders the cause.  If you ask for a bad action, you threaten the loss of something.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I think it's kind of wack how it's in the form of an ultimatum -- no this until that.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: My largest concern is that there are necessary things that happen during GA.  It's the head of the movement right now, and where people can bring concerns.  I feel like that's fundamental to the survival of this group right now, in a critical transitional period.  &lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Whether it's the intention of this or not, it'll feel disrespectful to say that bcause we need to be action-oriented, we should stop solidarity.  It feels horrible to me.  I also dislike the ultimatum format.  To come into a conversation and not be straight forward (like &amp;quot;I want to talk about this thing...&amp;quot;) feels extremely disrespectful.  To bring it as a proposal feels dishonest.  As someone who values integrity a lot, I'm very concerned that this has happened not just because it's happened, but because others might think it's an OK way to go.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Diversity is important; It's poor not to be able to express international solidarity.  If you're going to do things, plan carefully.  As someone who does legal support, it sucks -- just plan well and you won't need to.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned that we don't have enough people here to be well-received by the wider community.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned about the ultimatum nature as well.  It gets to something that irks me from &amp;quot;the coming insurrection&amp;quot;, anarcho-hipsterism, get rid of organizational structure and just do actions.  I dislike that trend because we live in a society with a lot of hipsters.&lt;br /&gt;
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proposer: Calling quorum.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: If we decide we don't have quorum, discussion ends now?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: It means we can't conclude this proposal; but we could continue to talk.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Will we continue to talk?&lt;br /&gt;
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proposer: Can I table this and let the other proposals come forward?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: You can always do that.  Are you no longer calling quorum?&lt;br /&gt;
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proposer: I called quorum based on the concern.  There might be a different judgment of quorum for the other proposers.  I withdraw my request for quorum, and table the proposal instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned with how this conversation is going.  What's been proposed is very different from what's been brought to GA before.  There's been personal criticism of the proposer; and I hope this won't chill other proposers from bringing proposals to ask the GA to take unified action.  We limit what can be said here by having an agenda and structure, and we've lost people over that.  This is a novel approach to how we could come toether as a community, and hope we can continue to have positive reception to it in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Even though he withdrew his call for quorum, I'm concerned with the small number of people here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
facilitator: Are you calling quorum?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: no, I'm leaving, I don't really care.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Fee and Dividend discussion proposal ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Are people interested in setting aside 15 minutes of a future GA to talk about fee and dividend carbon taxation?  The reason to bring it to a GA is to get a sense of people's thoughts and concerns before we bring the presentation and question/answer session for it.  There are different methods for implementing carbon tax, and along with localized efforts, is one of the national strategies for rapidly reducing emissions in this country.  There's reason to believe that if the US did this, other countries would follow our lead.  There's a time limit -- if groups and people aren't motivated and educated to take action on this in the next few years, we're locked into a major climate change by 2020 if not before, which is a threshold point for catastrophes we may not be able to adapt to as a species.  Just 15 minutes to discuss it at a future GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Which GA?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: That's up in the air.  I just want to get an idea; and then I'm scheduling an expert to come and talk to us.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: What's that term?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: Fee and dividend.  You tax carbon when it enters the atmosphere, and distribute the dividend, according to whatever way specified by the legislation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
process: I have to leave, I'd like to call quorum.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
facilitator: Are you asking for a specific time at a specific GA, or in general?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
proposer: If people are interested in a guy not with occupy boston coming, that could be next week.  But if it folks want a representative from the environmental committee, it might be next week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
faiclitator: temp check for next week: general approval.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
facilitator: temp check for the following week: general approval.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
facilitator: call for quorum: Quorum is if you believe that a fair representation of Occupy Boston is present.  At this time, raise your time if you believe that you do have quorum?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
facilitator: I see 3 hands.  We don't have quorum to continue to hear proposals.  We have space for another hour; we can keep talking, but no proposals can be decided.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(NOTE TAKER HAD TO LEAVE HERE)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:GA Minutes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12383</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12383"/>
		<updated>2012-03-01T15:26:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Meeting Time */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/ga-process-and-purpose&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First meeting: Friday March 2, 5pm, at [http://goo.gl/FXxz2 City Place / Transportation building].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12382</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12382"/>
		<updated>2012-03-01T15:25:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Meeting Time */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/ga-process-and-purpose&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First meeting: Friday March 2, 5pm, at [[http://goo.gl/FXxz2|City Place / Transportation building]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12381</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12381"/>
		<updated>2012-03-01T15:24:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Mailing List */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sign up for the mailing list here: https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/ga-process-and-purpose&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- poll for scheduling: http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GA_Process_and_Purpose/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=General_Assembly&amp;diff=12316</id>
		<title>General Assembly</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=General_Assembly&amp;diff=12316"/>
		<updated>2012-02-29T15:23:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* General Assembly History and Documentation */  removing spam&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The General Assembly is a Occupy Boston wide meeting, held several evenings per week. General Assembly has three main sections: 1) Announcements - working groups and individuals have the opportunity to make announcements to the larger community, 2)&amp;amp;nbsp; Proposals - working groups and individual members can make proposals for the community to decide upon, 3) Individual Stack - an opportunity for members to share thoughts, opinions and&amp;amp;nbsp; feelings, relevant to Occupy Boston.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
General Assemblies are open to all&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Occuy&amp;amp;nbsp; Boston believes that every voice is equal, and the community has agreed upon a procedure to try to ensure that possibility. At this time, Occupy Boston uses (what some call) a modified consensus process. Calling it consensus is a bit of a misnomer, because votes are held at General Assemblies, and if a community is asked to vote, the community is not practicing consensus. Many members of Occupy Boston realize this and are discussing the best way to move forward.&amp;amp;nbsp; For a detailed description of the current General Assembly process, please view the [[WG/Facilitation|Facilitators']] draft of [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yuWv7VZ3nS650mOdTF5kKteLrmmp8z3FiddWt6JJQVo/edit?hl=en_US Occupy Boston's Consensus Process].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Explore the archive of [[GA/Minutes]].&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Times ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*The General Assembly meets from 7:00 to 10:30 PM, on Tuesday and Thursday, and from 5:00 to 8:30 PM on Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
*Action Assemblies, to plan for Occupy Boston actions, meet on Sunday, 5:00 to 8:30 PM&lt;br /&gt;
*Community Gatherings are held on Mondays from 6:00 to 8:30. - These events are set aside for Working Groups to host evenings of learning, dialogue and examination of issues and topics relevant to the greater Occupy Boston community.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
*See the Occupy Boston calendar for Assembly&amp;amp;nbsp; and Gathering locations:&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; [[Calendar]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Additional special purpose discussions may occur on other days, and will normally be announced at a prior GA. Check the [[Calendar]] for all events.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Important Aspects&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no 'governing' authorities at the General Assembly, but there is an established process that is directed by a number of trained facilitators. Facilitators are trained to guide the assembly without imposing their personal views. Anyone interested in volunteering in this role should attend a Facilitation WG meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also more info about GA process at the [http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/WG/Facilitation Faciliation Work Group] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== People's Mic ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The People's Mic serves as amplification when there is no bullhorn or microphone. It is typically initiated by repeatedly yelling &amp;quot;Mic check!&amp;quot; until the crowd repeats in unison. The speaker then dictates a few words at a time, pausing for the crowd to recite each phrase. For larger crowds, there may be a second echo of each phrase by those farther out in the group. This method was designed and employed on Wall Street because electronically aided amplification was not allowed. In addition to being more fun than just listening, the People's Mic has been invaluable to the movement because repetition promotes understanding.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Temperature Checks ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To informally assess the crowd's support for an idea, the Facilitator may request a Temperature Check. Assembly participants can show either 1. '''agreement''', by wiggling their fingers upward (&amp;quot;twinkling&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;jazz hands&amp;quot;), 2. '''disagreement''', by wiggling their fingers downward (&amp;quot;squid fingers&amp;quot;), or 3. '''neutrality''', by wiggling fingers horizontally.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Assembly History and Documentation ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/GA/Minutes Minutes]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.occupyboston.org/general-assembly/passed-resolutions/ Partial List of Passed Resolutions] NOTE: More are coming&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_g9YCAyoI9dGZ2WlRaRlNmZG9qaDVCR1htbVBiV0E#gid=0 Working List of Dates and Titles of Passed Resolutions]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Tues_Feb_28_2012&amp;diff=12315</id>
		<title>GA Minutes Tues Feb 28 2012</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Tues_Feb_28_2012&amp;diff=12315"/>
		<updated>2012-02-29T15:20:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Denouncing American style democracy */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= Minutes for 28 September 2012 =&lt;br /&gt;
== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Location Arlington Church&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Time: 7pm to 10:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note taker: Charlie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Introduction to Participatory Budgeting by the [[WG/Financial Accountability|Financial Accountability Working Group]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion of &amp;quot;Denouncing American style democracy&amp;quot; proposal.  Proposal blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Non-violence working group ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
March 17, 100th birthday of ____.  Community gathering Monday night, 6-8:30, C__ church in Boston.  Exploring power and challenges of non-violence.  Next WG meeting Thursday March 1 at 3pm, 7 Pleasant Place in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Food ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food WG is regrouping again.  Meeting Tuesday, Arlington Church, 5:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Media / livestream ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Livestream training Saturday 3:00pm, E5.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Any other opportunity for this?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: No other training set; but contact livestream team and we can teach you.&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Is the training going to be livestreamed?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: We hadn't thought to, but sure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Logistics ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We're working hard still.  Would love to see you there.  We need a big truck, a food tent, and a sink.  logistics@occupyboston.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Tactical ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting tomorrow at Remmington's at 9pm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Financial Accounting Working Group ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please continue to contribute to the space rental found; $320/week.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We haven't had a meeting in a month or so.  Meeting tomorrow, 7pm, at City Place / Transportation building.  Please join us: it's just a bunch of old white folks managing your money, which isn't good.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proposal passed a while ago for a spending freeze on working group dispersements.  We promised to make a recommendation on March 6.  There was a $2000 set-aside for actions; we've spent ~$800.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Screen Print ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We made T-shirts today.  Yay!!!  See me if you want help with screen printing -- or [[ Screen Print Guild ]], facebook page, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spaces ===&lt;br /&gt;
We've had a conversation about visions around space, etc. We decided an affinity group outside OB would be a preferred venue for this. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting Friday 6pm at E5. Spaces needs to interface better with the movement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Facilitation ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Friday 5pm, City Place, sub-group of facilitation for [[GA process and purpose]]. Follow-up from last Tuesday.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Individual Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
* __ left this morning for Georgia to hike the Appalachian Trail.  Will be in Western Mass probably in June or so.&lt;br /&gt;
* My passion outside of OB is Justice for Palestine.  Tufts, BU, Brandeis etc. have speakers running.  I have papers comparing South African apartheid to Palestine.  This week, an outstanding group of speakers at Harvard.  &amp;quot;One State Solution&amp;quot;.  This weekend, Occupy American Israeli Political Action Committee.  This year the focus is on Iran.&lt;br /&gt;
* St. Patrick's day parade pamphlets!  March 18.  There's been a time change: flyer says 2pm, but it'll be 3pm.  This is a permitted march.  Expect 1500 to 2000 people.  Most will depend on y'all getting out there and talking to people.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a proposal Occupy Boston Radio Group to OBGA, will be brought up on Thursday.  Monday 6pm-7pm, Veteran's for peace radio.  Not strictly veteran/military -- you can contribute.  Listen!!&lt;br /&gt;
* Parade planning meeting, 2161 Mass Ave, American Friends Service Committee offices. 6:30pm Thursday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy Lynn GA this Saturday, 3pm, city hall in Lynn.&lt;br /&gt;
* Flyers for the community open house.  They have fronts, and backs.  Hot pink.  April 2, and the first Monday of each month.  If you want to get involved with Open House, Strategic Action Assembly on Sunday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy U Mass Boston!  Thursday March 1, National/International student day of action.  1pm Dewey Square, to State House for rally.  March 15-18, outside events at U-Mass Boston.&lt;br /&gt;
* A cool thing in New York: Occupy Town Square at Thompson Square Park for 6 hours every Sunday.  Think about this, and whether we could do something like it too.&lt;br /&gt;
* The new face of warfare (and surveillance in the US) is drones.  Tomorrow night at 7pm at Cambridge Friends' meeting house, 5 Longfellow Drive in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
30 second pause for reflection&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Participatory Budgeting and Justice ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''(Presentation from PB&amp;amp;J committee)''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is not just FAWG: We seek full participation from everyone.  PB&amp;amp;J is a working group to develop a budgeting process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Why PB&amp;amp;J?&lt;br /&gt;
* Budget determines allocation.&lt;br /&gt;
* Translates policy goals to action.&lt;br /&gt;
* To prevent control of the budget by elites.&lt;br /&gt;
* Future of OB should not be controlled by the loudest or most popular, or by those best able to manipulate the system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Current monthly deficit -- projected/estimated based on current practice:&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! General funds&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Beginning general funds&lt;br /&gt;
| $66000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Less tactical reserve&lt;br /&gt;
| -$14000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Net working cash&lt;br /&gt;
! $52000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Income&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| GA donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Other unrestricted donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $1000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total general revenues&lt;br /&gt;
! $1750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Expenses&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Rent&lt;br /&gt;
| $2710&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Internet service&lt;br /&gt;
| $470&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Mutual aid&lt;br /&gt;
| $1300&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total&lt;br /&gt;
! $4480 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Deficit&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| deficit before WG expenses&lt;br /&gt;
| -$2730 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| round-up deficit&lt;br /&gt;
| -$3000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Given this deficit, here are three scenarios for 6-month cash flow projection:&lt;br /&gt;
* If expenses don't change, with no WG expenses: After 6 months: $34000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $2,500 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $19000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $5,000 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $4000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* Any expenses beyond this would have to be offset by Working Group fundraising.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''How does PB work?'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Instead of &amp;quot;Announce and defend&amp;quot; (where you present options and pick), engage the community to define things themselves.: Participatory Budgeting employs a set of tools to help make effective decisions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''' History of PB: '''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 1989 -- city of Porto Allegre in Brazil used PB to allow more direct control&lt;br /&gt;
* 2009 -- Chicago's 49th ward launched 1st US experience.&lt;br /&gt;
* Used in Latin America, Europe, Africa and Asia&lt;br /&gt;
* New York: discretionary funds, $6million using this process.&lt;br /&gt;
* Participatory Budgeting: &amp;quot;A fundamental law for revolutionary democracy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''' How to implement in OB? '''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each working group will report budgetary needs and what it will do with the funds.  Together, the WGs look past individual goals to see whole movement opportunities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Q: Does the budget process establish goals, or do goals inform the budget process?&lt;br /&gt;
    A: Working Groups already decide what the actions are that they do.&lt;br /&gt;
    Q: Who gets to decide the goals/vision of movement?  Shouldn't we do that first?&lt;br /&gt;
    A: The process you're asking for -- collective discussion of Occupy's goals -- &lt;br /&gt;
    is what this workshop is.  It's a strategic planning process.  By coming &lt;br /&gt;
    together and sharing knowledge between working groups, there's better &lt;br /&gt;
    creativity and synergy.&lt;br /&gt;
    A: We could spend hte next 3 months trying to figure out our goals. If &lt;br /&gt;
    working groups weren't working in our interests, we'd be up in arms about &lt;br /&gt;
    that.  Through this process, we get more accountability than we already have.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Issues discussed in PB&amp;amp;J meetings'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Avoid becoming an NGO!&lt;br /&gt;
** Don't just sustain the institution rather than change the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* How to handle fundraising?&lt;br /&gt;
** Do we even do it?&lt;br /&gt;
** Should each WG raise its own funds or continue to have a single OB fund?&lt;br /&gt;
* Who else should be participating in these sessions?&lt;br /&gt;
* SWOT -- What are our strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''What's planned so far?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* First workshop:&lt;br /&gt;
** March 25th noon-5pm at New Hope Church in JP&lt;br /&gt;
** Introduction to PB by Maria Green, Northeastern School of Law&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop moderated by Bianpaolo Baiocchi, expert in PB at Brown U, PB project, NYd&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop Output: trial budget&lt;br /&gt;
*** Do budget for 3 months and see how it works out&lt;br /&gt;
* What's accomplished so far?&lt;br /&gt;
** Prepared forms for WGs to outline mission, opportunities, needs&lt;br /&gt;
** Increaesd WG communication&lt;br /&gt;
** WGs need to help each other out.&lt;br /&gt;
* Needed:&lt;br /&gt;
** submit forms describing WG and its needs -- important if you want funding&lt;br /&gt;
** Participate in the process regardless of need&lt;br /&gt;
*** Help guide the direction of OB&lt;br /&gt;
*** Take ownership&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Discussion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: As a member of FAWG, I realize that there's some tension here.  I played a role here, but FAWG jumped forward and has been building support for this.  Another way to do it would be to put up a proposal to do a PB process in front of GA.  FAWG chose to do it one way, which may have given rise to unrest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I'm going to treat this as a gift to the community to understand the process, and then have clarifying questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I like the idea of participatory budgets and including everyone.  I feel really uncomfortable with how this process came about.  I'm uncomfortable that we're moving a collective discussion of goals and strategies to something that came out of a working group.  Are we going to be an occupation?  Are we going outdoors or in?  These things need to be decided as a group.  The projections of money lock in a certain vision of us that I'm not ready to lock in.  We could be something totally different in 2-3 months.  We need to decide that as a group and not lock in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: This seems like a great process for cities.  I don't know how it's relevant to us.  We have no idea what we're going to be dealing with in 2 months.  We could be occupying, with big donations, or no longer here at all.  One reason lots of WG's aren't taking part, is that we never decided this is what we're going to do.  There's no decision that the plan will make a difference, or that we're using the process.  This should have come not as a presentation, but a proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I think this is a great idea -- it can help be a catalyst for the bigger discussion we need to have as a movement.  It needs to go a little more slowly.  First, figure out who we are and where we're going, then go to the budgeting.  We can still bring this to GA, and address it there.  Then, the WG's will be more on board.  Could these meetings/workshops that happen not all happen Monday-Friday 9-5?  There's a lot of folks that can't make it those times.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: This is about planning how to spend money.  We're either going to plan, or we'll spend without planning.  Are we going to have a plan, or first come first serve and then 3 months there's nothing left?  The spending freeze arose out of the fact that we're losing cash so rapidly.  This isn't an issue that can just sit around; 2 months from now that cash balance could be too low if people approve things without a budget.  We have limited resources that are rapidly depleting.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: The status quo is to do what we've been doing (first come, first serve).  That's not equitable -- it's who's in front of the line that gets the money. This is a more equitable way of making sure that everyone's voice is heard.  Second: Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Baltimore have been doing this -- though OWS haven't implemented it yet.  We don't want to just teach them; we want to actually do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: A number of points have been raised that participatory budget serves participatory goals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: It's not a 1-year budget.  We could do it as a 3-month.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The part I heard -- not necessarily up to the PB&amp;amp;J folks -- there needs to be a process determining the goals, which a budgeting process can work with.&lt;br /&gt;
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Question: Do you believe it's within your authority as a group to decide our budget for the next 3 months?  I don't.&lt;br /&gt;
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Answer: Think of it as a GA about money.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: But it's not a GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Why not?  I get that we didn't consent to do this process.  But what I've heard my colleagues say is that the process they hope to give and get people involved in is absolutely not FAWG deciding how to make money.  It's FAWG setting up a process for participation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: At the end of 3 months, if htis process exists, will there be a budget OB is committed to?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes -- but it'd have to come back to GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Timeout.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: There's conflict, misunderstanding, and there needs to be flexibility to achieve clarity.  I'm recognizing that this is a moment when we need clarity.  I'm asking if we can just take a few minutes to clear up a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Two things: first, our plan (which I didn't have an opportunity to say) is to do monitoring and evaluation, see if it's working, go to GA, and if folks are happy, to adopt it as the process at that point.  That's how it works -- it's not just planning, it's monitoring and evaluation too.  One more point: When we made the participatory budgeting presentation back in 2011, there was a 100% temperature check that people liked it.&lt;br /&gt;
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B: The financial analysis at the time were done produently and well; frankly, given the fact that he wasn't paid to do it, above and beyond what was expected.  However, it came from a negative view to the extent that it assumed we wouldn't find any additional fundraising, such as permanant communities, reoccupation, concerts, etc.  Things that would bring money in.  What I'm saying is when business forecast, they forecast speculatively, in a positive light.  If we do this -- let's get to doing this!&lt;br /&gt;
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C: I agree with that -- what's presented so far is just what we've got now, and the past couple of months.  That does not say that as spring unfolds we won't do better.  This process isn't trying to limit anything; if that's how it comes across, we aren't communicating well.  I'm applauding that FAWG is grabbing this and trying to get more what people are asking for -- a global, community decision about what to do.  I haven't seen other folks doing that; it doesn't happen at GA.  What it's about is this visionary stuff -- what we want to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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D: The majority of the questions are misinterpreting because we put numbers on a screen.  What we are presenting a tool that we can use, regardless of the numbers.  We need methods and tools we can use.  Participatory Budgeting is such a tool.&lt;br /&gt;
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E: Before Christmas I visited Occupy Providence.  They have no budgeting, but they manage to travel to national conventions.  They have no funds at all.  A good process of us budgeting would be categorizing money into groups on what we as a community together decide, instead of a process of trying to be conservative.  Even if the budget becomes zero, we could take a lesson from Providence.&lt;br /&gt;
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F: Observations: : We currently don't have a budget.  In the interests of creating a democratic process, we have a working group.  There are people in the GA who believe that process should be ratified by the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Deep gratitude for a process that just revealed what is already happening.  It's clearly been an important catalyst for people to say &amp;quot;hmm&amp;quot;, what is this not taking into account?  I'm greatful for that being raised.  It's an invitation for people to be involved in defining goals.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Summaries:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Denouncing American Style Democracy: American democracy today is a scam.  To express our dissatisfaction, Occupy Boston endorses writing &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; in the coming election.&lt;br /&gt;
* Stop GA other than announcements until we shut down banks. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
* U-Mass Boston wants to borrow a food tank for 4 or 5 days. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Denouncing American style democracy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Denouncing American Style Democracy&lt;br /&gt;
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Initial proposal text:&lt;br /&gt;
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    American Democracy today is a scam.  All major politicians sleep in&lt;br /&gt;
    the same bed, lined with crisp new bills from the Federal Reserve&lt;br /&gt;
    Bank.  The People are told they have no choice but to vote for one&lt;br /&gt;
    of two candidates.  The truth is that either way we vote, we are&lt;br /&gt;
    still voting to continue the corporate-government complex that&lt;br /&gt;
    funnels money from the People into illegal, meaningless wars, spends&lt;br /&gt;
    trillions on bailing out ineffective multinational banks, and&lt;br /&gt;
    literally is making our planet unlivable for human  and other&lt;br /&gt;
    organisms.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    But there is another choice.  We can decide to protest the two party&lt;br /&gt;
    system through a write-in campaign.  By doing so, we can send a&lt;br /&gt;
    strong message that we refuse to participate in this broken&lt;br /&gt;
    electoral system.  To express our dissatisfaction Occupy Boston&lt;br /&gt;
    endorses writing in on the ballot for President of the USA,&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;quot;none-of-the-above&amp;quot; in this coming election.  We believe the office&lt;br /&gt;
    of President of the United States of America has been purchased by&lt;br /&gt;
    multinational corporations and banks.  Ergo we refuse to acknowledge&lt;br /&gt;
    the validity of any of the major candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Furthermore, we encourage all Occupies and other interested parties&lt;br /&gt;
    around the country to endorse the above mentioned write-in campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
    With enough protest votes we can show the political elite and&lt;br /&gt;
    plutocrats that we refuse to accept their veiled aristocracy and&lt;br /&gt;
    demand that a new political system based on the principles of a true&lt;br /&gt;
    Democracy be established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Do we mean to denounce green and other party candidates?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: We don't mean to reject any options.  This is just one option.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What kind of numbers are we looking for here?  How many?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: 50 million. :)  What I'd like to see is everyone that doesn't vote writes in none of the above -- but that's not going to happen.  Maybe 2 or 3 percent of the vote.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Is it your intention to say that Occupy Boston will write in &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot;, or we encourage people to do it, or what?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: No... nothing in here states that if you don't write &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; you're no longer in Occupy Boston.  I'd encourage people to do that if they're not satisfied.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: I wonder if you're thinking of this as one step in a greater action.  How do we expand this?  Is this the beginning or end of discussion?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: The last paragraph deos say that we encourage others to endorse this as well.  Were this to pass, there would certainly be outreach at least to the other occupies.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: What do you mean to &amp;quot;refuse to participate&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;don't recognize the validity&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: The general point is that the major candidates are bought by corporations. Any major candidate, it's intentionally broad.  President only.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Half of qualified electorate are unregistered.  Do you suggest people should register in order to write in none-of-the-above?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: There's no such suggestion in this proposal.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Information: In some states there are no write ins.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Information: You can request one in any state.&lt;br /&gt;
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Small group break-outs&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like this proposal.  I feel like we have an opportunity right now to get a significant percentage of the vote.  We should pick something and go for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I feel like our group as a whole has already denounced American democracy.  I think this proposal should just pass; we've already been doing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I support this.  One of the biggest challenges is that it's hard to consent to things related to electoral politics.  It's something we can consent to, because it's kind of a fuck you.  It's not committing to anything other than acknowledging that the system exists and that it's broken.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I think most people of the room may feel that this is a good decision, I think we should think back to the hayday of Occupy Boston with large numbers of people involved, and take into consideration that a lot of those folks are concerned with who becomes president.  I don't think it's a good idea to pass something that might cut us off from a larger group that should be involved.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I could see putting 'none of the above' on the ballot as a regular choice.  I think encouraging people to register to vote violates underlying principles of democracy and direct action.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I said this a couple GA's ago.  This proposal has no solutions, and we need proposals with solutions.  The whole world is watching, and asking &amp;quot;what are your solutions&amp;quot;?  Without solutions, support dwindles, and then Occupy no longer exists.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I really like the first paragraph.  It starts out funny and gets serious.  I don't like what the actual proposal asks for -- we aren't organized enough to make this relevant, so we're just making ourselves irrelevant through this.  Occupy the Movement can't do anything unless it's a mass movement.  Maybe think this might be astart to building this narrative...  I'd support a fleshing-out of the first paragraph that was a little more nuanced, and acknowledged the gray area.  The candidates are bought by the same people, but there are differences, and some of those differences affect lives.  I can't see myself supporting a &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; proposal.  I don't think passing and calling for other occupies to support it is relevant.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm gonna take a wild guess that you've never lived under a dictatorship, or you wouldn't have written the first paragraph.  My concern is the same as these concerns -- as a movement we need to make ourselves relevant to the entire 99%.  This does just the opposite.  Ask people to get involved and do good work.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: This will ostracize the general public who've bought into the mainstream perception of the voting process.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: It's vague.&lt;br /&gt;
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info: Voting &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; isn't apathetic -- it's active.  To the people that are buying the candidates, the difference isn't appreciable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: The other day we had a whole SAA group conversation around voting.  One conclusion we reached is that Occupy Boston is an unsafe space for those who still like to vote.  Anyone someone says &amp;quot;vote&amp;quot; there's this air of &amp;quot;how dare you&amp;quot;.  I'm concerned that it gets even harder with a statement like this that there is a safe space.  We decided we needed a working group to ensure that we can make it a safe space.  We want to use things like the blue book with who donates to what candidates, and being against those companies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: In most electoral processes, there are more than 2 parties, but only 2 get publicity.  My main concern is that we don't shine light on the other parties.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: Regarding what Alex said: it's frustrating to be someone who's not a fan of electoral politics to be nice about it.  It's not an indictment of anyone's voting; it's just been frustrating.&lt;br /&gt;
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conern: I think it's a waste of time.  People who join after this proposal can do whatever they want to.  I understand people's concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I support 75-80% of what's been said.  I spent a lot of time trying to convince people of just this.  I just don't think this is the right place or way for us to be doing it.  It's a statement no one will pay attention to, it isn't linked to any solution.  We have a horizontal democracy which is a proactive model we put out as an alternative.  If we say we're trying to represent or be part of the 99%, this is a good thing to be the end of a discussion. When you say to people &amp;quot;it's a farce&amp;quot; as your opening line, they won't listen to your second sentence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I can't support this because I see it as marginalizing Occupy Boston, making it harder to recruit and involve most people that I interact with.  It doesn't accomplish anything positive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: It doesn't say loudly enough that we have an alternative democratic model that is more legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: We could do better by having a series of critiques of the electoral system.  We do need an approach to the 2012 election.  This will only hurt the democratic party though -- this is a concern of mine.  We like to think we're speaking to the whole country, but in reality it's just one party.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: There might be an opportunity with a statement like this to present something visionary, to communicate with others.  But the language of this proposal doesn't do that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: There's something passive and laking in content with this.  I sympathize with it, but refusing to endorse a candidate, we will already be making a statement.  Promoting GA democracy as an alternative would be better.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I'm concerned that Occupy Boston is more focused and concerned about the things that divide us, rather than the things that unite us.  Regardless of the current system, norms, and things people already accept as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Write in our own names in all of the offices, and vote for ourselves, and urge everyone else in the public to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Encourage people to search for third parties and gain knowledge of everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Just endorse Vermin Supreme.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Instead of endorsing &amp;quot;None of the Above&amp;quot;, we suggest that occupies around the country hold general assemblies and rallies as close to voting places as possible to engage in discussion about horizontal democracy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
information: A bunch of local anarchists ran &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; last election cycle.  That's why I kind of like this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Where it says &amp;quot;occupy boston endorses&amp;quot;, I feel this would be better worded as &amp;quot;suggests&amp;quot; rather than endorses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: I like &amp;quot;encourage&amp;quot; rather than suggest.... and also, &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; or any candidate of your choice.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We reviewed the amendments.  Thanks for the discussion.  We think GA's and rallies close to polling places is excellent, but doesn't belong in this proposal.  We changed the language from 'endorse' to 'suggest', and the second 'endorsed' to 'support'.  We decided also to add &amp;quot;or any alternative candidates&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
question: Are you implying that Rick Santorum would sleep in the same bed with another male candidate?&lt;br /&gt;
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question: You claim that we have only a 2-party system.  Do you know of the other parties such as the green party, independents, and other parties?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
answer: yes... I am aware.... they would not be considered major parties.  I think most people would agree there are only 2 major parties.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
information: These other parties are not invited to debate or meaningful participate.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: A two party isn't one with just two parties... it's one where only two have a realistic chance of winning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
information: New Zealand has a 6 party system.  The party that supports the rich got voted in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: We have the option to go back into small groups.  Is there energy for that? (temp check says no).&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like the idea of this.  I don't support it wholeheartedly, but support the option to give people an option.  I think most people's concerns are that we shouldn't be doing this at all.  I support it though -- it's how I feel right now.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I could make quibbles about wording, but I support it.  We should keep repeating this as long as possible.  The more you repeat something, the more that meaning strengthens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: There are still a lot of people in this movement who will vote.  I'm one of those.  In that, I feel like people already feel ashamed to be a voter.  Remember, we're probably coming off one of the most active generations for voting.  A lot of them are still not deterred.  Just knowing you'll come into a space where people are publicly anti-voting makes for a harder life.  I want to keep that in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: In your proposal, you have not mentioned anything in the constitution or the representative democracy system.  A lot of people will be turned away from occupy if we say we denounce US voting.  They'll think we're unconstitutional, a bunch of liars.  Add more of our horizontal democracy, and our beliefs about the constitution, that we we don't turn away america, we support it -- in a different system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: Suggesting people could vote for alternative cnadidates goes against Occupy's norm of not suggesting or endorsing candidates.  Referring to the electoral system as broken -- in my view, Occupy Boston wouldn't support even an unbroken electoral system.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: My fundamental concern is the same.  I'm doubly concerned now, because I didn't hear our concerns referenced at all.  I'd like to hear the proposers address those.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I wasn't here the first round.  I prefer us as a movement instead of condemning, building new things and alternatives.  Don't just attack.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: It's 10 past 10.  We need time for evaluations and cleanup.  The question: are there amendments? &lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: My amendments are very simple: mention how we believe in the constitution, and that it's not being represented.  &amp;quot;We believe in the constitution; but the constitution has been violated.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: In the spirit of compromise: encourage people to look for models outside.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We looked at these concerns again...  We've decided to take out the word 'candidate' (it now just says 'and any alternative').  Regarding the concerns that this will ostracize people, we believe this is true, but we believe more people will wake up to this, so we don't believe that it needs to be changed from that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: I didn't particularly want to insert any language specifically supporting the constitution, because I think that drastically changes the proposal to something we weren't intending.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Any blocks?&lt;br /&gt;
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Block: I have concerns that we shouldn't make any statement regarding electoral politics.  And further, this is divisive when we need togetherness.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Does this fit the definition of a block?  (Unanimous approval).&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Who joins ___ in the block? (5 raise hands)&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The proposal has been blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: A successful block doesn't mean that the proposal is dead -- it can come forward after revision.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;= Minutes for 28 September 2012 =&lt;br /&gt;
== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Location Arlington Church&lt;br /&gt;
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Time: 7pm to 10:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
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Note taker: Charlie&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Introduction to Participatory Budgeting by the [[WG/Financial Accountability|Financial Accountability Working Group]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion of &amp;quot;Denouncing American style democracy&amp;quot; proposal.  Proposal blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Non-violence working group ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
March 17, 100th birthday of ____.  Community gathering Monday night, 6-8:30, C__ church in Boston.  Exploring power and challenges of non-violence.  Next WG meeting Thursday March 1 at 3pm, 7 Pleasant Place in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Food ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food WG is regrouping again.  Meeting Tuesday, Arlington Church, 5:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Media / livestream ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Livestream training Saturday 3:00pm, E5.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Any other opportunity for this?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: No other training set; but contact livestream team and we can teach you.&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Is the training going to be livestreamed?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: We hadn't thought to, but sure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Logistics ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We're working hard still.  Would love to see you there.  We need a big truck, a food tent, and a sink.  logistics@occupyboston.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Tactical ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting tomorrow at Remmington's at 9pm.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Financial Accounting Working Group ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please continue to contribute to the space rental found; $320/week.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We haven't had a meeting in a month or so.  Meeting tomorrow, 7pm, at City Place / Transportation building.  Please join us: it's just a bunch of old white folks managing your money, which isn't good.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proposal passed a while ago for a spending freeze on working group dispersements.  We promised to make a recommendation on March 6.  There was a $2000 set-aside for actions; we've spent ~$800.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Screen Print ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We made T-shirts today.  Yay!!!  See me if you want help with screen printing -- or [[ Screen Print Guild ]], facebook page, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spaces ===&lt;br /&gt;
We've had a conversation about visions around space, etc. We decided an affinity group outside OB would be a preferred venue for this. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting Friday 6pm at E5. Spaces needs to interface better with the movement.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Facilitation ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Friday 5pm, City Place, sub-group of facilitation for [[GA process and purpose]]. Follow-up from last Tuesday.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Individual Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
* __ left this morning for Georgia to hike the Appalachian Trail.  Will be in Western Mass probably in June or so.&lt;br /&gt;
* My passion outside of OB is Justice for Palestine.  Tufts, BU, Brandeis etc. have speakers running.  I have papers comparing South African apartheid to Palestine.  This week, an outstanding group of speakers at Harvard.  &amp;quot;One State Solution&amp;quot;.  This weekend, Occupy American Israeli Political Action Committee.  This year the focus is on Iran.&lt;br /&gt;
* St. Patrick's day parade pamphlets!  March 18.  There's been a time change: flyer says 2pm, but it'll be 3pm.  This is a permitted march.  Expect 1500 to 2000 people.  Most will depend on y'all getting out there and talking to people.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a proposal Occupy Boston Radio Group to OBGA, will be brought up on Thursday.  Monday 6pm-7pm, Veteran's for peace radio.  Not strictly veteran/military -- you can contribute.  Listen!!&lt;br /&gt;
* Parade planning meeting, 2161 Mass Ave, American Friends Service Committee offices. 6:30pm Thursday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy Lynn GA this Saturday, 3pm, city hall in Lynn.&lt;br /&gt;
* Flyers for the community open house.  They have fronts, and backs.  Hot pink.  April 2, and the first Monday of each month.  If you want to get involved with Open House, Strategic Action Assembly on Sunday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy U Mass Boston!  Thursday March 1, National/International student day of action.  1pm Dewey Square, to State House for rally.  March 15-18, outside events at U-Mass Boston.&lt;br /&gt;
* A cool thing in New York: Occupy Town Square at Thompson Square Park for 6 hours every Sunday.  Think about this, and whether we could do something like it too.&lt;br /&gt;
* The new face of warfare (and surveillance in the US) is drones.  Tomorrow night at 7pm at Cambridge Friends' meeting house, 5 Longfellow Drive in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
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30 second pause for reflection&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== Participatory Budgeting and Justice ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''(Presentation from PB&amp;amp;J committee)''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is not just FAWG: We seek full participation from everyone.  PB&amp;amp;J is a working group to develop a budgeting process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Why PB&amp;amp;J?&lt;br /&gt;
* Budget determines allocation.&lt;br /&gt;
* Translates policy goals to action.&lt;br /&gt;
* To prevent control of the budget by elites.&lt;br /&gt;
* Future of OB should not be controlled by the loudest or most popular, or by those best able to manipulate the system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Current monthly deficit -- projected/estimated based on current practice:&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! General funds&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Beginning general funds&lt;br /&gt;
| $66000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Less tactical reserve&lt;br /&gt;
| -$14000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Net working cash&lt;br /&gt;
! $52000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Income&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| GA donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Other unrestricted donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $1000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total general revenues&lt;br /&gt;
! $1750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Expenses&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Rent&lt;br /&gt;
| $2710&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Internet service&lt;br /&gt;
| $470&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Mutual aid&lt;br /&gt;
| $1300&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total&lt;br /&gt;
! $4480 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Deficit&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| deficit before WG expenses&lt;br /&gt;
| -$2730 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| round-up deficit&lt;br /&gt;
| -$3000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Given this deficit, here are three scenarios for 6-month cash flow projection:&lt;br /&gt;
* If expenses don't change, with no WG expenses: After 6 months: $34000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $2,500 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $19000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $5,000 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $4000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* Any expenses beyond this would have to be offset by Working Group fundraising.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''How does PB work?'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Instead of &amp;quot;Announce and defend&amp;quot; (where you present options and pick), engage the community to define things themselves.: Participatory Budgeting employs a set of tools to help make effective decisions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''' History of PB: '''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 1989 -- city of Porto Allegre in Brazil used PB to allow more direct control&lt;br /&gt;
* 2009 -- Chicago's 49th ward launched 1st US experience.&lt;br /&gt;
* Used in Latin America, Europe, Africa and Asia&lt;br /&gt;
* New York: discretionary funds, $6million using this process.&lt;br /&gt;
* Participatory Budgeting: &amp;quot;A fundamental law for revolutionary democracy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''' How to implement in OB? '''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each working group will report budgetary needs and what it will do with the funds.  Together, the WGs look past individual goals to see whole movement opportunities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Q: Does the budget process establish goals, or do goals inform the budget process?&lt;br /&gt;
    A: Working Groups already decide what the actions are that they do.&lt;br /&gt;
    Q: Who gets to decide the goals/vision of movement?  Shouldn't we do that first?&lt;br /&gt;
    A: The process you're asking for -- collective discussion of Occupy's goals -- &lt;br /&gt;
    is what this workshop is.  It's a strategic planning process.  By coming &lt;br /&gt;
    together and sharing knowledge between working groups, there's better &lt;br /&gt;
    creativity and synergy.&lt;br /&gt;
    A: We could spend hte next 3 months trying to figure out our goals. If &lt;br /&gt;
    working groups weren't working in our interests, we'd be up in arms about &lt;br /&gt;
    that.  Through this process, we get more accountability than we already have.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Issues discussed in PB&amp;amp;J meetings'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Avoid becoming an NGO!&lt;br /&gt;
** Don't just sustain the institution rather than change the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* How to handle fundraising?&lt;br /&gt;
** Do we even do it?&lt;br /&gt;
** Should each WG raise its own funds or continue to have a single OB fund?&lt;br /&gt;
* Who else should be participating in these sessions?&lt;br /&gt;
* SWOT -- What are our strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''What's planned so far?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* First workshop:&lt;br /&gt;
** March 25th noon-5pm at New Hope Church in JP&lt;br /&gt;
** Introduction to PB by Maria Green, Northeastern School of Law&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop moderated by Bianpaolo Baiocchi, expert in PB at Brown U, PB project, NYd&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop Output: trial budget&lt;br /&gt;
*** Do budget for 3 months and see how it works out&lt;br /&gt;
* What's accomplished so far?&lt;br /&gt;
** Prepared forms for WGs to outline mission, opportunities, needs&lt;br /&gt;
** Increaesd WG communication&lt;br /&gt;
** WGs need to help each other out.&lt;br /&gt;
* Needed:&lt;br /&gt;
** submit forms describing WG and its needs -- important if you want funding&lt;br /&gt;
** Participate in the process regardless of need&lt;br /&gt;
*** Help guide the direction of OB&lt;br /&gt;
*** Take ownership&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Discussion ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: As a member of FAWG, I realize that there's some tension here.  I played a role here, but FAWG jumped forward and has been building support for this.  Another way to do it would be to put up a proposal to do a PB process in front of GA.  FAWG chose to do it one way, which may have given rise to unrest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I'm going to treat this as a gift to the community to understand the process, and then have clarifying questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I like the idea of participatory budgets and including everyone.  I feel really uncomfortable with how this process came about.  I'm uncomfortable that we're moving a collective discussion of goals and strategies to something that came out of a working group.  Are we going to be an occupation?  Are we going outdoors or in?  These things need to be decided as a group.  The projections of money lock in a certain vision of us that I'm not ready to lock in.  We could be something totally different in 2-3 months.  We need to decide that as a group and not lock in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: This seems like a great process for cities.  I don't know how it's relevant to us.  We have no idea what we're going to be dealing with in 2 months.  We could be occupying, with big donations, or no longer here at all.  One reason lots of WG's aren't taking part, is that we never decided this is what we're going to do.  There's no decision that the plan will make a difference, or that we're using the process.  This should have come not as a presentation, but a proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I think this is a great idea -- it can help be a catalyst for the bigger discussion we need to have as a movement.  It needs to go a little more slowly.  First, figure out who we are and where we're going, then go to the budgeting.  We can still bring this to GA, and address it there.  Then, the WG's will be more on board.  Could these meetings/workshops that happen not all happen Monday-Friday 9-5?  There's a lot of folks that can't make it those times.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: This is about planning how to spend money.  We're either going to plan, or we'll spend without planning.  Are we going to have a plan, or first come first serve and then 3 months there's nothing left?  The spending freeze arose out of the fact that we're losing cash so rapidly.  This isn't an issue that can just sit around; 2 months from now that cash balance could be too low if people approve things without a budget.  We have limited resources that are rapidly depleting.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: The status quo is to do what we've been doing (first come, first serve).  That's not equitable -- it's who's in front of the line that gets the money. This is a more equitable way of making sure that everyone's voice is heard.  Second: Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Baltimore have been doing this -- though OWS haven't implemented it yet.  We don't want to just teach them; we want to actually do it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comment: A number of points have been raised that participatory budget serves participatory goals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: It's not a 1-year budget.  We could do it as a 3-month.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The part I heard -- not necessarily up to the PB&amp;amp;J folks -- there needs to be a process determining the goals, which a budgeting process can work with.&lt;br /&gt;
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Question: Do you believe it's within your authority as a group to decide our budget for the next 3 months?  I don't.&lt;br /&gt;
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Answer: Think of it as a GA about money.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: But it's not a GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: Why not?  I get that we didn't consent to do this process.  But what I've heard my colleagues say is that the process they hope to give and get people involved in is absolutely not FAWG deciding how to make money.  It's FAWG setting up a process for participation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: At the end of 3 months, if htis process exists, will there be a budget OB is committed to?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: Yes -- but it'd have to come back to GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Timeout.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: There's conflict, misunderstanding, and there needs to be flexibility to achieve clarity.  I'm recognizing that this is a moment when we need clarity.  I'm asking if we can just take a few minutes to clear up a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: Two things: first, our plan (which I didn't have an opportunity to say) is to do monitoring and evaluation, see if it's working, go to GA, and if folks are happy, to adopt it as the process at that point.  That's how it works -- it's not just planning, it's monitoring and evaluation too.  One more point: When we made the participatory budgeting presentation back in 2011, there was a 100% temperature check that people liked it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: The financial analysis at the time were done produently and well; frankly, given the fact that he wasn't paid to do it, above and beyond what was expected.  However, it came from a negative view to the extent that it assumed we wouldn't find any additional fundraising, such as permanant communities, reoccupation, concerts, etc.  Things that would bring money in.  What I'm saying is when business forecast, they forecast speculatively, in a positive light.  If we do this -- let's get to doing this!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
C: I agree with that -- what's presented so far is just what we've got now, and the past couple of months.  That does not say that as spring unfolds we won't do better.  This process isn't trying to limit anything; if that's how it comes across, we aren't communicating well.  I'm applauding that FAWG is grabbing this and trying to get more what people are asking for -- a global, community decision about what to do.  I haven't seen other folks doing that; it doesn't happen at GA.  What it's about is this visionary stuff -- what we want to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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D: The majority of the questions are misinterpreting because we put numbers on a screen.  What we are presenting a tool that we can use, regardless of the numbers.  We need methods and tools we can use.  Participatory Budgeting is such a tool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Before Christmas I visited Occupy Providence.  They have no budgeting, but they manage to travel to national conventions.  They have no funds at all.  A good process of us budgeting would be categorizing money into groups on what we as a community together decide, instead of a process of trying to be conservative.  Even if the budget becomes zero, we could take a lesson from Providence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
F: Observations: : We currently don't have a budget.  In the interests of creating a democratic process, we have a working group.  There are people in the GA who believe that process should be ratified by the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: Deep gratitude for a process that just revealed what is already happening.  It's clearly been an important catalyst for people to say &amp;quot;hmm&amp;quot;, what is this not taking into account?  I'm greatful for that being raised.  It's an invitation for people to be involved in defining goals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Summaries:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Denouncing American Style Democracy: American democracy today is a scam.  To express our dissatisfaction, Occupy Boston endorses writing &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; in the coming election.&lt;br /&gt;
* Stop GA other than announcements until we shut down banks. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
* U-Mass Boston wants to borrow a food tank for 4 or 5 days. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Denouncing American style democracy ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. Denouncing American Style Democracy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Initial proposal text:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    American Democracy today is a scam.  All major politicians sleep in&lt;br /&gt;
    the same bed, lined with crisp new bills from the Federal Reserve&lt;br /&gt;
    Bank.  The People are told they have no choice but to vote for one&lt;br /&gt;
    of two candidates.  The truth is that either way we vote, we are&lt;br /&gt;
    still voting to continue the corporate-government complex that&lt;br /&gt;
    funnels money from the People into illegal, meaningless wars, spends&lt;br /&gt;
    trillions on bailing out ineffective multinational banks, and&lt;br /&gt;
    literally is making our planet unlivable for human  and other&lt;br /&gt;
    organisms.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    But there is another choice.  We can decide to protest the two party&lt;br /&gt;
    system through a write-in campaign.  By doing so, we can send a&lt;br /&gt;
    strong message that we refuse to participate in this broken&lt;br /&gt;
    electoral system.  To express our dissatisfaction Occupy Boston&lt;br /&gt;
    endorses writing in on the ballot for President of the USA,&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;quot;none-of-the-above&amp;quot; in this coming election.  We believe the office&lt;br /&gt;
    of President of the United States of America has been purchased by&lt;br /&gt;
    multinational corporations and banks.  Ergo we refuse to acknowledge&lt;br /&gt;
    the validity of any of the major candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Furthermore, we encourage all Occupies and other interested parties&lt;br /&gt;
    around the country to endorse the above mentioned write-in campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
    With enough protest votes we can show the political elite and&lt;br /&gt;
    plutocrats that we refuse to accept their veiled aristocracy and&lt;br /&gt;
    demand that a new political system based on the principles of a true&lt;br /&gt;
    Democracy be established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Do we mean to denounce green and other party candidates?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: We don't mean to reject any options.  This is just one option.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: What kind of numbers are we looking for here?  How many?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: 50 million. :)  What I'd like to see is everyone that doesn't vote writes in none of the above -- but that's not going to happen.  Maybe 2 or 3 percent of the vote.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Is it your intention to say that Occupy Boston will write in &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot;, or we encourage people to do it, or what?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: No... nothing in here states that if you don't write &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; you're no longer in Occupy Boston.  I'd encourage people to do that if they're not satisfied.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: I wonder if you're thinking of this as one step in a greater action.  How do we expand this?  Is this the beginning or end of discussion?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: The last paragraph deos say that we encourage others to endorse this as well.  Were this to pass, there would certainly be outreach at least to the other occupies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: What do you mean to &amp;quot;refuse to participate&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;don't recognize the validity&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: The general point is that the major candidates are bought by corporations. Any major candidate, it's intentionally broad.  President only.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Half of qualified electorate are unregistered.  Do you suggest people should register in order to write in none-of-the-above?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: There's no such suggestion in this proposal.  Information: In some states there are no write ins.  Information: You can request one in any state.&lt;br /&gt;
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Small group break-outs&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like this proposal.  I feel like we have an opportunity right now to get a significant percentage of the vote.  We should pick something and go for it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
support: I feel like our group as a whole has already denounced American democracy.  I think this proposal should just pass; we've already been doing it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
support: I support this.  One of the biggest challenges is that it's hard to consent to things related to electoral politics.  It's something we can consent to, because it's kind of a fuck you.  It's not committing to anything other than acknowledging that the system exists and that it's broken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I think most people of the room may feel that this is a good decision, I think we should think back to the hayday of Occupy Boston with large numbers of people involved, and take into consideration that a lot of those folks are concerned with who becomes president.  I don't think it's a good idea to pass something that might cut us off from a larger group that should be involved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I could see putting 'none of the above' on the ballot as a regular choice.  I think encouraging people to register to vote violates underlying principles of democracy and direct action.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I said this a couple GA's ago.  This proposal has no solutions, and we need proposals with solutions.  The whole world is watching, and asking &amp;quot;what are your solutions&amp;quot;?  Without solutions, support dwindles, and then Occupy no longer exists.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I really like the first paragraph.  It starts out funny and gets serious.  I don't like what the actual proposal asks for -- we aren't organized enough to make this relevant, so we're just making ourselves irrelevant through this.  Occupy the Movement can't do anything unless it's a mass movement.  Maybe think this might be astart to building this narrative...  I'd support a fleshing-out of the first paragraph that was a little more nuanced, and acknowledged the gray area.  The candidates are bought by the same people, but there are differences, and some of those differences affect lives.  I can't see myself supporting a &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; proposal.  I don't think passing and calling for other occupies to support it is relevant.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm gonna take a wild guess that you've never lived under a dictatorship, or you wouldn't have written the first paragraph.  My concern is the same as these concerns -- as a movement we need to make ourselves relevant to the entire 99%.  This does just the opposite.  Ask people to get involved and do good work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: This will ostracize the general public who've bought into the mainstream perception of the voting process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: It's vague.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
info: Voting &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; isn't apathetic -- it's active.  To the people that are buying the candidates, the difference isn't appreciable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: The other day we had a whole SAA group conversation around voting.  One conclusion we reached is that Occupy Boston is an unsafe space for those who still like to vote.  Anyone someone says &amp;quot;vote&amp;quot; there's this air of &amp;quot;how dare you&amp;quot;.  I'm concerned that it gets even harder with a statement like this that there is a safe space.  We decided we needed a working group to ensure that we can make it a safe space.  We want to use things like the blue book with who donates to what candidates, and being against those companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: In most electoral processes, there are more than 2 parties, but only 2 get publicity.  My main concern is that we don't shine light on the other parties.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Regarding what Alex said: it's frustrating to be someone who's not a fan of electoral politics to be nice about it.  It's not an indictment of anyone's voting; it's just been frustrating.&lt;br /&gt;
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conern: I think it's a waste of time.  People who join after this proposal can do whatever they want to.  I understand people's concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I support 75-80% of what's been said.  I spent a lot of time trying to convince people of just this.  I just don't think this is the right place or way for us to be doing it.  It's a statement no one will pay attention to, it isn't linked to any solution.  We have a horizontal democracy which is a proactive model we put out as an alternative.  If we say we're trying to represent or be part of the 99%, this is a good thing to be the end of a discussion. When you say to people &amp;quot;it's a farce&amp;quot; as your opening line, they won't listen to your second sentence.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I can't support this because I see it as marginalizing Occupy Boston, making it harder to recruit and involve most people that I interact with.  It doesn't accomplish anything positive.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: It doesn't say loudly enough that we have an alternative democratic model that is more legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: We could do better by having a series of critiques of the electoral system.  We do need an approach to the 2012 election.  This will only hurt the democratic party though -- this is a concern of mine.  We like to think we're speaking to the whole country, but in reality it's just one party.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There might be an opportunity with a statement like this to present something visionary, to communicate with others.  But the language of this proposal doesn't do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There's something passive and laking in content with this.  I sympathize with it, but refusing to endorse a candidate, we will already be making a statement.  Promoting GA democracy as an alternative would be better.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I'm concerned that Occupy Boston is more focused and concerned about the things that divide us, rather than the things that unite us.  Regardless of the current system, norms, and things people already accept as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Write in our own names in all of the offices, and vote for ourselves, and urge everyone else in the public to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Encourage people to search for third parties and gain knowledge of everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Just endorse Vermin Supreme.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Instead of endorsing &amp;quot;None of the Above&amp;quot;, we suggest that occupies around the country hold general assemblies and rallies as close to voting places as possible to engage in discussion about horizontal democracy.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: A bunch of local anarchists ran &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; last election cycle.  That's why I kind of like this.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: Where it says &amp;quot;occupy boston endorses&amp;quot;, I feel this would be better worded as &amp;quot;suggests&amp;quot; rather than endorses.&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: I like &amp;quot;encourage&amp;quot; rather than suggest.... and also, &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; or any candidate of your choice.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We reviewed the amendments.  Thanks for the discussion.  We think GA's and rallies close to polling places is excellent, but doesn't belong in this proposal.  We changed the language from 'endorse' to 'suggest', and the second 'endorsed' to 'support'.  We decided also to add &amp;quot;or any alternative candidates&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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question: Are you implying that Rick Santorum would sleep in the same bed with another male candidate?&lt;br /&gt;
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question: You claim that we have only a 2-party system.  Do you know of the other parties such as the green party, independents, and other parties?&lt;br /&gt;
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answer: yes... I am aware.... they would not be considered major parties.  I think most people would agree there are only 2 major parties.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: These other parties are not invited to debate or meaningful participate.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: A two party isn't one with just two parties... it's one where only two have a realistic chance of winning.&lt;br /&gt;
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information: New Zealand has a 6 party system.  The party that supports the rich got voted in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: We have the option to go back into small groups.  Is there energy for that? (temp check says no).&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like the idea of this.  I don't support it wholeheartedly, but support the option to give people an option.  I think most people's concerns are that we shouldn't be doing this at all.  I support it though -- it's how I feel right now.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I could make quibbles about wording, but I support it.  We should keep repeating this as long as possible.  The more you repeat something, the more that meaning strengthens.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: There are still a lot of people in this movement who will vote.  I'm one of those.  In that, I feel like people already feel ashamed to be a voter.  Remember, we're probably coming off one of the most active generations for voting.  A lot of them are still not deterred.  Just knowing you'll come into a space where people are publicly anti-voting makes for a harder life.  I want to keep that in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: In your proposal, you have not mentioned anything in the constitution or the representative democracy system.  A lot of people will be turned away from occupy if we say we denounce US voting.  They'll think we're unconstitutional, a bunch of liars.  Add more of our horizontal democracy, and our beliefs about the constitution, that we we don't turn away america, we support it -- in a different system.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: Suggesting people could vote for alternative cnadidates goes against Occupy's norm of not suggesting or endorsing candidates.  Referring to the electoral system as broken -- in my view, Occupy Boston wouldn't support even an unbroken electoral system.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: My fundamental concern is the same.  I'm doubly concerned now, because I didn't hear our concerns referenced at all.  I'd like to hear the proposers address those.&lt;br /&gt;
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concern: I wasn't here the first round.  I prefer us as a movement instead of condemning, building new things and alternatives.  Don't just attack.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: It's 10 past 10.  We need time for evaluations and cleanup.  The question: are there amendments? &lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: My amendments are very simple: mention how we believe in the constitution, and that it's not being represented.  &amp;quot;We believe in the constitution; but the constitution has been violated.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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amendment: In the spirit of compromise: encourage people to look for models outside.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We looked at these concerns again...  We've decided to take out the word 'candidate' (it now just says 'and any alternative').  Regarding the concerns that this will ostracize people, we believe this is true, but we believe more people will wake up to this, so we don't believe that it needs to be changed from that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: I didn't particularly want to insert any language specifically supporting the constitution, because I think that drastically changes the proposal to something we weren't intending.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Any blocks?&lt;br /&gt;
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Block: I have concerns that we shouldn't make any statement regarding electoral politics.  And further, this is divisive when we need togetherness.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Does this fit the definition of a block?  (Unanimous approval).&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Who joins ___ in the block? (5 raise hands)&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The proposal has been blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: A successful block doesn't mean that the proposal is dead -- it can come forward after revision.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: Created page with &amp;quot;= Minutes for 28 September 2012 = == Details ==  Location Arlington Church  Time: 7pm to 10:30pm  Note taker: Charlie  == Summary ==  * Announcements * Introduction to Participat...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Location Arlington Church&lt;br /&gt;
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Time: 7pm to 10:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
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Note taker: Charlie&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Introduction to Participatory Budgeting by the [[WG/Financial Accountability|Financial Accountability Working Group]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion of &amp;quot;Denouncing American style democracy&amp;quot; proposal.  Proposal blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Non-violence working group ===&lt;br /&gt;
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March 17, 100th birthday of ____.  Community gathering Monday night, 6-8:30, C__ church in Boston.  Exploring power and challenges of non-violence.  Next WG meeting Thursday March 1 at 3pm, 7 Pleasant Place in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Food ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Food WG is regrouping again.  Meeting Tuesday, Arlington Church, 5:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Media / livestream ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Livestream training Saturday 3:00pm, E5.&lt;br /&gt;
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   Q: Any other opportunity for this?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: No other training set; but contact livestream team and we can teach you.&lt;br /&gt;
   Q: Is the training going to be livestreamed?&lt;br /&gt;
   A: We hadn't thought to, but sure.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Logistics ===&lt;br /&gt;
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We're working hard still.  Would love to see you there.  We need a big truck, a food tent, and a sink.  logistics@occupyboston.org&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Tactical ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting tomorrow at Remmington's at 9pm.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Financial Accounting Working Group ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Please continue to contribute to the space rental found; $320/week.  &lt;br /&gt;
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We haven't had a meeting in a month or so.  Meeting tomorrow, 7pm, at City Place / Transportation building.  Please join us: it's just a bunch of old white folks managing your money, which isn't good.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposal passed a while ago for a spending freeze on working group dispersements.  We promised to make a recommendation on March 6.  There was a $2000 set-aside for actions; we've spent ~$800.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Screen Print ===&lt;br /&gt;
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We made T-shirts today.  Yay!!!  See me if you want help with screen printing -- or [[ Screen Print Guild ]], facebook page, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spaces ===&lt;br /&gt;
We've had a conversation about visions around space, etc. We decided an affinity group outside OB would be a preferred venue for this. &lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting Friday 6pm at E5. Spaces needs to interface better with the movement.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Facilitation ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Friday 5pm, City Place, sub-group of facilitation for [[GA process and purpose]]. Follow-up from last Tuesday.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Individual Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
* __ left this morning for Georgia to hike the Appalachian Trail.  Will be in Western Mass probably in June or so.&lt;br /&gt;
* My passion outside of OB is Justice for Palestine.  Tufts, BU, Brandeis etc. have speakers running.  I have papers comparing South African apartheid to Palestine.  This week, an outstanding group of speakers at Harvard.  &amp;quot;One State Solution&amp;quot;.  This weekend, Occupy American Israeli Political Action Committee.  This year the focus is on Iran.&lt;br /&gt;
* St. Patrick's day parade pamphlets!  March 18.  There's been a time change: flyer says 2pm, but it'll be 3pm.  This is a permitted march.  Expect 1500 to 2000 people.  Most will depend on y'all getting out there and talking to people.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a proposal Occupy Boston Radio Group to OBGA, will be brought up on Thursday.  Monday 6pm-7pm, Veteran's for peace radio.  Not strictly veteran/military -- you can contribute.  Listen!!&lt;br /&gt;
* Parade planning meeting, 2161 Mass Ave, American Friends Service Committee offices. 6:30pm Thursday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy Lynn GA this Saturday, 3pm, city hall in Lynn.&lt;br /&gt;
* Flyers for the community open house.  They have fronts, and backs.  Hot pink.  April 2, and the first Monday of each month.  If you want to get involved with Open House, Strategic Action Assembly on Sunday.&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupy U Mass Boston!  Thursday March 1, National/International student day of action.  1pm Dewey Square, to State House for rally.  March 15-18, outside events at U-Mass Boston.&lt;br /&gt;
* A cool thing in New York: Occupy Town Square at Thompson Square Park for 6 hours every Sunday.  Think about this, and whether we could do something like it too.&lt;br /&gt;
* The new face of warfare (and surveillance in the US) is drones.  Tomorrow night at 7pm at Cambridge Friends' meeting house, 5 Longfellow Drive in Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
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30 second pause for reflection&lt;br /&gt;
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== Participatory Budgeting and Justice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''(Presentation from PB&amp;amp;J committee)''&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not just FAWG: We seek full participation from everyone.  PB&amp;amp;J is a working group to develop a budgeting process.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why PB&amp;amp;J?&lt;br /&gt;
* Budget determines allocation.&lt;br /&gt;
* Translates policy goals to action.&lt;br /&gt;
* To prevent control of the budget by elites.&lt;br /&gt;
* Future of OB should not be controlled by the loudest or most popular, or by those best able to manipulate the system.&lt;br /&gt;
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Current monthly deficit -- projected/estimated based on current practice:&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! General funds&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Beginning general funds&lt;br /&gt;
| $66000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Less tactical reserve&lt;br /&gt;
| -$14000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Net working cash&lt;br /&gt;
! $52000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Income&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| GA donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Other unrestricted donations&lt;br /&gt;
| $1000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total general revenues&lt;br /&gt;
! $1750 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Expenses&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Rent&lt;br /&gt;
| $2710&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Internet service&lt;br /&gt;
| $470&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Mutual aid&lt;br /&gt;
| $1300&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Total&lt;br /&gt;
! $4480 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Deficit&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| deficit before WG expenses&lt;br /&gt;
| -$2730 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| round-up deficit&lt;br /&gt;
| -$3000 per month&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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Given this deficit, here are three scenarios for 6-month cash flow projection:&lt;br /&gt;
* If expenses don't change, with no WG expenses: After 6 months: $34000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $2,500 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $19000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we have $5,000 per month WG expenses: After 6 months: $4000 cash remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
* Any expenses beyond this would have to be offset by Working Group fundraising.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''How does PB work?'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Instead of &amp;quot;Announce and defend&amp;quot; (where you present options and pick), engage the community to define things themselves.: Participatory Budgeting employs a set of tools to help make effective decisions.&lt;br /&gt;
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''' History of PB: '''&lt;br /&gt;
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* 1989 -- city of Porto Allegre in Brazil used PB to allow more direct control&lt;br /&gt;
* 2009 -- Chicago's 49th ward launched 1st US experience.&lt;br /&gt;
* Used in Latin America, Europe, Africa and Asia&lt;br /&gt;
* New York: discretionary funds, $6million using this process.&lt;br /&gt;
* Participatory Budgeting: &amp;quot;A fundamental law for revolutionary democracy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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''' How to implement in OB? '''&lt;br /&gt;
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Each working group will report budgetary needs and what it will do with the funds.  Together, the WGs look past individual goals to see whole movement opportunities.&lt;br /&gt;
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	Q: Does the budget process establish goals, or do goals inform the budget process?&lt;br /&gt;
	A: Working Groups already decide what the actions are that they do.&lt;br /&gt;
	Q: Who gets to decide the goals/vision of movement?  Shouldn't we do that first?&lt;br /&gt;
	A: The process you're asking for -- collective discussion of Occupy's goals -- is what this workshop is.  It's a strategic planning process.  By coming together and sharing knowledge between working groups, there's better creativity and synergy.&lt;br /&gt;
    A: We could spend hte next 3 months trying to figure out our goals. If working groups weren't working in our interests, we'd be up in arms about that.  Through this process, we get more accountability than we already have.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Issues discussed in PB&amp;amp;J meetings'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Avoid becoming an NGO!&lt;br /&gt;
** Don't just sustain the institution rather than change the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* How to handle fundraising?&lt;br /&gt;
** Do we even do it?&lt;br /&gt;
** Should each WG raise its own funds or continue to have a single OB fund?&lt;br /&gt;
* Who else should be participating in these sessions?&lt;br /&gt;
* SWOT -- What are our strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''What's planned so far?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* First workshop:&lt;br /&gt;
** March 25th noon-5pm at New Hope Church in JP&lt;br /&gt;
** Introduction to PB by Maria Green, Northeastern School of Law&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop moderated by Bianpaolo Baiocchi, expert in PB at Brown U, PB project, NYd&lt;br /&gt;
** Workshop Output: trial budget&lt;br /&gt;
*** Do budget for 3 months and see how it works out&lt;br /&gt;
* What's accomplished so far?&lt;br /&gt;
** Prepared forms for WGs to outline mission, opportunities, needs&lt;br /&gt;
** Increaesd WG communication&lt;br /&gt;
** WGs need to help each other out.&lt;br /&gt;
* Needed:&lt;br /&gt;
** submit forms describing WG and its needs -- important if you want funding&lt;br /&gt;
** Participate in the process regardless of need&lt;br /&gt;
*** Help guide the direction of OB&lt;br /&gt;
*** Take ownership&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Discussion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: As a member of FAWG, I realize that there's some tension here.  I played a role here, but FAWG jumped forward and has been building support for this.  Another way to do it would be to put up a proposal to do a PB process in front of GA.  FAWG chose to do it one way, which may have given rise to unrest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I'm going to treat this as a gift to the community to understand the process, and then have clarifying questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I like the idea of participatory budgets and including everyone.  I feel really uncomfortable with how this process came about.  I'm uncomfortable that we're moving a collective discussion of goals and strategies to something that came out of a working group.  Are we going to be an occupation?  Are we going outdoors or in?  These things need to be decided as a group.  The projections of money lock in a certain vision of us that I'm not ready to lock in.  We could be something totally different in 2-3 months.  We need to decide that as a group and not lock in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: This seems like a great process for cities.  I don't know how it's relevant to us.  We have no idea what we're going to be dealing with in 2 months.  We could be occupying, with big donations, or no longer here at all.  One reason lots of WG's aren't taking part, is that we never decided this is what we're going to do.  There's no decision that the plan will make a difference, or that we're using the process.  This should have come not as a presentation, but a proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: I think this is a great idea -- it can help be a catalyst for the bigger discussion we need to have as a movement.  It needs to go a little more slowly.  First, figure out who we are and where we're going, then go to the budgeting.  We can still bring this to GA, and address it there.  Then, the WG's will be more on board.  Could these meetings/workshops that happen not all happen Monday-Friday 9-5?  There's a lot of folks that can't make it those times.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: This is about planning how to spend money.  We're either going to plan, or we'll spend without planning.  Are we going to have a plan, or first come first serve and then 3 months there's nothing left?  The spending freeze arose out of the fact that we're losing cash so rapidly.  This isn't an issue that can just sit around; 2 months from now that cash balance could be too low if people approve things without a budget.  We have limited resources that are rapidly depleting.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: The status quo is to do what we've been doing (first come, first serve).  That's not equitable -- it's who's in front of the line that gets the money. This is a more equitable way of making sure that everyone's voice is heard.  Second: Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Baltimore have been doing this -- though OWS haven't implemented it yet.  We don't want to just teach them; we want to actually do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: A number of points have been raised that participatory budget serves participatory goals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment: It's not a 1-year budget.  We could do it as a 3-month.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The part I heard -- not necessarily up to the PB&amp;amp;J folks -- there needs to be a process determining the goals, which a budgeting process can work with.&lt;br /&gt;
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Question: Do you believe it's within your authority as a group to decide our budget for the next 3 months?  I don't.&lt;br /&gt;
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Answer: Think of it as a GA about money.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: But it's not a GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Why not?  I get that we didn't consent to do this process.  But what I've heard my colleagues say is that the process they hope to give and get people involved in is absolutely not FAWG deciding how to make money.  It's FAWG setting up a process for participation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: At the end of 3 months, if htis process exists, will there be a budget OB is committed to?&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Yes -- but it'd have to come back to GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Timeout.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: There's conflict, misunderstanding, and there needs to be flexibility to achieve clarity.  I'm recognizing that this is a moment when we need clarity.  I'm asking if we can just take a few minutes to clear up a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Two things: first, our plan (which I didn't have an opportunity to say) is to do monitoring and evaluation, see if it's working, go to GA, and if folks are happy, to adopt it as the process at that point.  That's how it works -- it's not just planning, it's monitoring and evaluation too.  One more point: When we made the participatory budgeting presentation back in 2011, there was a 100% temperature check that people liked it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: The financial analysis at the time were done produently and well; frankly, given the fact that he wasn't paid to do it, above and beyond what was expected.  However, it came from a negative view to the extent that it assumed we wouldn't find any additional fundraising, such as permanant communities, reoccupation, concerts, etc.  Things that would bring money in.  What I'm saying is when business forecast, they forecast speculatively, in a positive light.  If we do this -- let's get to doing this!&lt;br /&gt;
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C: I agree with that -- what's presented so far is just what we've got now, and the past couple of months.  That does not say that as spring unfolds we won't do better.  This process isn't trying to limit anything; if that's how it comes across, we aren't communicating well.  I'm applauding that FAWG is grabbing this and trying to get more what people are asking for -- a global, community decision about what to do.  I haven't seen other folks doing that; it doesn't happen at GA.  What it's about is this visionary stuff -- what we want to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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D: The majority of the questions are misinterpreting because we put numbers on a screen.  What we are presenting a tool that we can use, regardless of the numbers.  We need methods and tools we can use.  Participatory Budgeting is such a tool.&lt;br /&gt;
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E: Before Christmas I visited Occupy Providence.  They have no budgeting, but they manage to travel to national conventions.  They have no funds at all.  A good process of us budgeting would be categorizing money into groups on what we as a community together decide, instead of a process of trying to be conservative.  Even if the budget becomes zero, we could take a lesson from Providence.&lt;br /&gt;
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F: Observations: : We currently don't have a budget.  In the interests of creating a democratic process, we have a working group.  There are people in the GA who believe that process should be ratified by the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Deep gratitude for a process that just revealed what is already happening.  It's clearly been an important catalyst for people to say &amp;quot;hmm&amp;quot;, what is this not taking into account?  I'm greatful for that being raised.  It's an invitation for people to be involved in defining goals.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Summaries:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Denouncing American Style Democracy: American democracy today is a scam.  To express our dissatisfaction, Occupy Boston endorses writing &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; in the coming election.&lt;br /&gt;
* Stop GA other than announcements until we shut down banks. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
* U-Mass Boston wants to borrow a food tank for 4 or 5 days. (ROLLED FORWARD)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Denouncing American style democracy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Denouncing American Style Democracy&lt;br /&gt;
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Initial proposal text:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    American Democracy today is a scam.  All major politicians sleep in&lt;br /&gt;
    the same bed, lined with crisp new bills from the Federal Reserve&lt;br /&gt;
    Bank.  The People are told they have no choice but to vote for one&lt;br /&gt;
    of two candidates.  The truth is that either way we vote, we are&lt;br /&gt;
    still voting to continue the corporate-government complex that&lt;br /&gt;
    funnels money from the People into illegal, meaningless wars, spends&lt;br /&gt;
    trillions on bailing out ineffective multinational banks, and&lt;br /&gt;
    literally is making our planet unlivable for human  and other&lt;br /&gt;
    organisms.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    But there is another choice.  We can decide to protest the two party&lt;br /&gt;
    system through a write-in campaign.  By doing so, we can send a&lt;br /&gt;
    strong message that we refuse to participate in this broken&lt;br /&gt;
    electoral system.  To express our dissatisfaction Occupy Boston&lt;br /&gt;
    endorses writing in on the ballot for President of the USA,&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;quot;none-of-the-above&amp;quot; in this coming election.  We believe the office&lt;br /&gt;
    of President of the United States of America has been purchased by&lt;br /&gt;
    multinational corporations and banks.  Ergo we refuse to acknowledge&lt;br /&gt;
    the validity of any of the major candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Furthermore, we encourage all Occupies and other interested parties&lt;br /&gt;
    around the country to endorse the above mentioned write-in campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
    With enough protest votes we can show the political elite and&lt;br /&gt;
    plutocrats that we refuse to accept their veiled aristocracy and&lt;br /&gt;
    demand that a new political system based on the principles of a true&lt;br /&gt;
    Democracy be established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Do we mean to denounce green and other party candidates?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: We don't mean to reject any options.  This is just one option.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: What kind of numbers are we looking for here?  How many?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: 50 million. :)  What I'd like to see is everyone that doesn't vote writes in none of the above -- but that's not going to happen.  Maybe 2 or 3 percent of the vote.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Is it your intention to say that Occupy Boston will write in &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot;, or we encourage people to do it, or what?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: No... nothing in here states that if you don't write &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; you're no longer in Occupy Boston.  I'd encourage people to do that if they're not satisfied.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: I wonder if you're thinking of this as one step in a greater action.  How do we expand this?  Is this the beginning or end of discussion?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: The last paragraph deos say that we encourage others to endorse this as well.  Were this to pass, there would certainly be outreach at least to the other occupies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: What do you mean to &amp;quot;refuse to participate&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;don't recognize the validity&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: The general point is that the major candidates are bought by corporations. Any major candidate, it's intentionally broad.  President only.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Q: Half of qualified electorate are unregistered.  Do you suggest people should register in order to write in none-of-the-above?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A: There's no such suggestion in this proposal.  Information: In some states there are no write ins.  Information: You can request one in any state.&lt;br /&gt;
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Small group break-outs&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I like this proposal.  I feel like we have an opportunity right now to get a significant percentage of the vote.  We should pick something and go for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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support: I feel like our group as a whole has already denounced American democracy.  I think this proposal should just pass; we've already been doing it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
support: I support this.  One of the biggest challenges is that it's hard to consent to things related to electoral politics.  It's something we can consent to, because it's kind of a fuck you.  It's not committing to anything other than acknowledging that the system exists and that it's broken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I think most people of the room may feel that this is a good decision, I think we should think back to the hayday of Occupy Boston with large numbers of people involved, and take into consideration that a lot of those folks are concerned with who becomes president.  I don't think it's a good idea to pass something that might cut us off from a larger group that should be involved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I could see putting 'none of the above' on the ballot as a regular choice.  I think encouraging people to register to vote violates underlying principles of democracy and direct action.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I said this a couple GA's ago.  This proposal has no solutions, and we need proposals with solutions.  The whole world is watching, and asking &amp;quot;what are your solutions&amp;quot;?  Without solutions, support dwindles, and then Occupy no longer exists.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I really like the first paragraph.  It starts out funny and gets serious.  I don't like what the actual proposal asks for -- we aren't organized enough to make this relevant, so we're just making ourselves irrelevant through this.  Occupy the Movement can't do anything unless it's a mass movement.  Maybe think this might be astart to building this narrative...  I'd support a fleshing-out of the first paragraph that was a little more nuanced, and acknowledged the gray area.  The candidates are bought by the same people, but there are differences, and some of those differences affect lives.  I can't see myself supporting a &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; proposal.  I don't think passing and calling for other occupies to support it is relevant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I'm gonna take a wild guess that you've never lived under a dictatorship, or you wouldn't have written the first paragraph.  My concern is the same as these concerns -- as a movement we need to make ourselves relevant to the entire 99%.  This does just the opposite.  Ask people to get involved and do good work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: This will ostracize the general public who've bought into the mainstream perception of the voting process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: It's vague.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
info: Voting &amp;quot;None of the above&amp;quot; isn't apathetic -- it's active.  To the people that are buying the candidates, the difference isn't appreciable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: The other day we had a whole SAA group conversation around voting.  One conclusion we reached is that Occupy Boston is an unsafe space for those who still like to vote.  Anyone someone says &amp;quot;vote&amp;quot; there's this air of &amp;quot;how dare you&amp;quot;.  I'm concerned that it gets even harder with a statement like this that there is a safe space.  We decided we needed a working group to ensure that we can make it a safe space.  We want to use things like the blue book with who donates to what candidates, and being against those companies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: In most electoral processes, there are more than 2 parties, but only 2 get publicity.  My main concern is that we don't shine light on the other parties.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: Regarding what Alex said: it's frustrating to be someone who's not a fan of electoral politics to be nice about it.  It's not an indictment of anyone's voting; it's just been frustrating.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
conern: I think it's a waste of time.  People who join after this proposal can do whatever they want to.  I understand people's concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I support 75-80% of what's been said.  I spent a lot of time trying to convince people of just this.  I just don't think this is the right place or way for us to be doing it.  It's a statement no one will pay attention to, it isn't linked to any solution.  We have a horizontal democracy which is a proactive model we put out as an alternative.  If we say we're trying to represent or be part of the 99%, this is a good thing to be the end of a discussion. When you say to people &amp;quot;it's a farce&amp;quot; as your opening line, they won't listen to your second sentence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I can't support this because I see it as marginalizing Occupy Boston, making it harder to recruit and involve most people that I interact with.  It doesn't accomplish anything positive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: It doesn't say loudly enough that we have an alternative democratic model that is more legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: We could do better by having a series of critiques of the electoral system.  We do need an approach to the 2012 election.  This will only hurt the democratic party though -- this is a concern of mine.  We like to think we're speaking to the whole country, but in reality it's just one party.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: There might be an opportunity with a statement like this to present something visionary, to communicate with others.  But the language of this proposal doesn't do that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: There's something passive and laking in content with this.  I sympathize with it, but refusing to endorse a candidate, we will already be making a statement.  Promoting GA democracy as an alternative would be better.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I'm concerned that Occupy Boston is more focused and concerned about the things that divide us, rather than the things that unite us.  Regardless of the current system, norms, and things people already accept as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Write in our own names in all of the offices, and vote for ourselves, and urge everyone else in the public to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Encourage people to search for third parties and gain knowledge of everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Just endorse Vermin Supreme.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Instead of endorsing &amp;quot;None of the Above&amp;quot;, we suggest that occupies around the country hold general assemblies and rallies as close to voting places as possible to engage in discussion about horizontal democracy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
information: A bunch of local anarchists ran &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; last election cycle.  That's why I kind of like this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: Where it says &amp;quot;occupy boston endorses&amp;quot;, I feel this would be better worded as &amp;quot;suggests&amp;quot; rather than endorses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: I like &amp;quot;encourage&amp;quot; rather than suggest.... and also, &amp;quot;none of the above&amp;quot; or any candidate of your choice.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We reviewed the amendments.  Thanks for the discussion.  We think GA's and rallies close to polling places is excellent, but doesn't belong in this proposal.  We changed the language from 'endorse' to 'suggest', and the second 'endorsed' to 'support'.  We decided also to add &amp;quot;or any alternative candidates&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
question: Are you implying that Rick Santorum would sleep in the same bed with another male candidate?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
question: You claim that we have only a 2-party system.  Do you know of the other parties such as the green party, independents, and other parties?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
answer: yes... I am aware.... they would not be considered major parties.  I think most people would agree there are only 2 major parties.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
information: These other parties are not invited to debate or meaningful participate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
information: A two party isn't one with just two parties... it's one where only two have a realistic chance of winning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
information: New Zealand has a 6 party system.  The party that supports the rich got voted in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: We have the option to go back into small groups.  Is there energy for that? (temp check says no).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
support: I like the idea of this.  I don't support it wholeheartedly, but support the option to give people an option.  I think most people's concerns are that we shouldn't be doing this at all.  I support it though -- it's how I feel right now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
support: I could make quibbles about wording, but I support it.  We should keep repeating this as long as possible.  The more you repeat something, the more that meaning strengthens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: There are still a lot of people in this movement who will vote.  I'm one of those.  In that, I feel like people already feel ashamed to be a voter.  Remember, we're probably coming off one of the most active generations for voting.  A lot of them are still not deterred.  Just knowing you'll come into a space where people are publicly anti-voting makes for a harder life.  I want to keep that in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: In your proposal, you have not mentioned anything in the constitution or the representative democracy system.  A lot of people will be turned away from occupy if we say we denounce US voting.  They'll think we're unconstitutional, a bunch of liars.  Add more of our horizontal democracy, and our beliefs about the constitution, that we we don't turn away america, we support it -- in a different system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: Suggesting people could vote for alternative cnadidates goes against Occupy's norm of not suggesting or endorsing candidates.  Referring to the electoral system as broken -- in my view, Occupy Boston wouldn't support even an unbroken electoral system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: My fundamental concern is the same.  I'm doubly concerned now, because I didn't hear our concerns referenced at all.  I'd like to hear the proposers address those.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concern: I wasn't here the first round.  I prefer us as a movement instead of condemning, building new things and alternatives.  Don't just attack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: It's 10 past 10.  We need time for evaluations and cleanup.  The question: are there amendments? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: My amendments are very simple: mention how we believe in the constitution, and that it's not being represented.  &amp;quot;We believe in the constitution; but the constitution has been violated.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
amendment: In the spirit of compromise: encourage people to look for models outside.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers step back to rework proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposers: We looked at these concerns again...  We've decided to take out the word 'candidate' (it now just says 'and any alternative').  Regarding the concerns that this will ostracize people, we believe this is true, but we believe more people will wake up to this, so we don't believe that it needs to be changed from that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proposers: I didn't particularly want to insert any language specifically supporting the constitution, because I think that drastically changes the proposal to something we weren't intending.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: Any blocks?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Block: I have concerns that we shouldn't make any statement regarding electoral politics.  And further, this is divisive when we need togetherness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: Does this fit the definition of a block?  (Unanimous approval).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facilitator: Who joins ___ in the block? (5 raise hands)&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: The proposal has been blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: A successful block doesn't mean that the proposal is dead -- it can come forward after revision.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:GA Minutes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
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&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking a critical look at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
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TBA -- in the mean time, contact abeeeeba@gmail.com to get in the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- poll for scheduling: http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GA_Process_and_Purpose/&lt;br /&gt;
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== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012</title>
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&lt;div&gt;= Minutes for 21 Feb 2012 =&lt;br /&gt;
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== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Location: Arlington Street Church, 351 Boylston St., Boston&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Time: 7:00pm --&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Note taker: Steve&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tonights GA consisted of Announcements, and discussions about the GA process.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Minutes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Working Group Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Occupy MBTA'''. We're having an action on Saturday Feb 25th, noon, at Copley Square. Our major upcoming actions are March 14th and April 4th. The April 4th action is the more significant one -- that's the day when MBTA funding decisions will be handed over to the state legislature. Next planning Meeting: Friday, 6:00pm at SEIU 615.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Info'''. We just revitalized the info group. Our goal is to enhance communications within the Occupy Movement. We'll meet Wednesday, from 5:00 - 7:00 pm at 29 Windsor Street. We're also trying to launch a new web site function, that features the top 3--5 campaigns that Occupy Boston is working on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Logistics'''. There's a working party this weekend at the logistics house. If you're interested, email [mailto:logistics@occupyboston.org occupyboston.org] for more details.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Signs'''. We had a great action yesterday with Occupy the Prisons. We need material donations. You can drop them off at E5. You can also email [mailto:occupybostonsigns@gmail.com occupybostonsigns@gmail.com].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''People of Color'''. The POC WG presented a quick video, highlighting yesterday's Occupy the Prisons action. Occupy Oakland put out the call for this action. The US has the highest incarceration rate of any industrialized society. There are two more prison-related events this week. On Thursday, the movie &amp;quot;3000 Years and Life&amp;quot; is showing at the Community Church, 7:30 pm. There's also a rally on this Saturday at 2:00pm on the Boston Commons. For more information about that, see [http://www.freetarek.com/ freetarek.com].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Social Enterprise'''. We're meeting tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Non Violence'''. We're holding a meeting on Monday March 19th (location TBD), where we'll discuss the power of non-violence. Our next regular meeting will be at 3:00pm March 1st, at 7 Pleasant Place, Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Spaces'''. We're looking for more people. If you're interested, contact [mailto:eli@occupyboston.org eli@occupyboston.org].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Queer DA'''. We have an upcoming action: March Fourth on March 4th. Details TBD, but pay attention to the web site. Our next regular meeting will be held at Friday 8:30pm, City Place.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Decolonize'''. We're sponsoring Monday's Community Gathering. This will be held from 6:00-9:00 pm at Christ Church in Harvard Square. Child care will be provided.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''SAA'''. The strategic action assembly meets Sundays at 5:00pm, at Community Church, 535 Boylston St. Part of the next meeting will be devoted to planning March 14th MBTA actions. We also need cardboard and paint for this weekend's action.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Direct Action'''. Saturday at noon -- meet at Copley Square to march down the Green Line E-train route.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Individual Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Shane'''. The JRC (?) facility in Canton has tortured people for decades; electric shock, food deprivation, and prolonged restraint. We urge you to occupy the JRC. You can contact me at [mailto:s.m.neumeier@gmail.com s.m.neumeier@gmail.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Chang'''. I believe there's a realistic chance for us to capture Washington, particularly over the next 3--4 election cycles. Contact me if you'd like to find out more, and maybe create a working group. You can reach me at [mailto:ylc200804@yahoo.com ylc200804@yahoo.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Terra'''. Hundreds of towns and cities have enacted legislating denying corporate personhood. There's a teach-in this Saturday in Action, from 10:00 - 6:00. The teach-in will show citizens how to organize, and fight corporations. Contact [mailto:terraf@compuserve.com terraf@compuserve.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Tim'''. Occupy Harvard occupied the Lamont Library for a week. See [http://occupyharvard.net occupyharvard.net]. We've started holding think tanks; these are discussions on pre-set topics. We did this twice a day during the occupations, and we'll continue to hold them twice a week. Everyone is invited. Look for the &amp;quot;Think Tank&amp;quot; page on [http://occupyharvard.net occupyharvard.net]. You can also write [mailto:ohinteroccupy@gmail.com ohinteroccupy@gmail.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''David'''. We're collaborating with organizations in East Boston. On May first, we want to shut these cities down. (May 1st is the general strike day.) I'd encourage all of you to do this in your own neighborhoods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Nick'''. The April 2nd community gathering will be an open house. If your working group wants to participate, email me at [mailto:nbokron@gmail.com nbokron@gmail.com]. (If your working group wants to participate, then you'll need to have someone there on April 2nd.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Ben'''. I'm starting a priority process procedure. Next Tuesday, I'll bring a proposal to GA to end American-Style Democracy. I'll send the proposal to facilitation before then, so that facilitation can post it on the web site. Contact me at [mailto:ben@occupyboston.org ben@occupyboston.org].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Bill'''. Several people have asked about the book. Contact me if you're interested.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Alex I'''. A few days ago, ESPN fired one person over racial slurs directed at a basketball payer. It's one of the most honest conversations about racial issues that I've ever seen. I'm going to post links to a video on my Facebook at Twitter accounts -- I want everyone to go and watch this video.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Jay'''. The spokes council met to talk about the March 17th action. I'd like to invite working group representatives to attend our Sunday meetings. They're held at 8:30 pm (check occupyboston.org calendar of events). March 17th is evacuation day, and we've got several events planned. There will also be discussions on Wed. 6:00 pm at city place. Again, check the occupyboston.org calendar.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Matt'''. We're about to have a big discussion about facilitation. The facilitation working group meets Tues, Thurs, and Saturday at city place, two hours before general assemblies. (note taker: Matt rattled of a few other meeting times, and completely lost me. Check the calendar). We'd like more people to get involved in facilitation. Contact us at [mailto:facilitation@occupyboston.org facilitation@occupyboston.org]. Also -- if you have GA minutes, or links to GA minutes, then please send them to us for posting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Cora'''. I do behind the scenes food support for Occupy Boston, to make sure that all of you get fed. (Lots of twinkle fingers) Tonight, we have burritos -- please take some!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Time is now approx 8:05 pm)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== GA Discussions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tonight, we'll have two discussion sessions about different GA-related topics, followed by report-backs. Occupy Boston's GA and decision-making processes are something that we kind of jumped into; we'd like to have a more thought-out discussion about these processes. Tonight's goal: find out what the major issues are, and how we can address them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We briefly break up into groups, and each group comes up with a few issues. There are lots of issues, which we organize into eight topics.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
*Community Guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
*Anti-Oppression&lt;br /&gt;
*Macro Goals&lt;br /&gt;
*Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
*Accessibility / Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
*Facilitation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We break up into discussion groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Report backs:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Accessibility and logistics ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Make accessibility a priority. &lt;br /&gt;
** People with disabilities. &lt;br /&gt;
*** Try to get interpreters / signers &lt;br /&gt;
*** Post whether or not meeting places are accessibile, provide child care, have gender-neutral restrooms, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
*** Be mindful of more than one person speaking at a time as an accessibility issue. &lt;br /&gt;
*** Physical barriers &lt;br /&gt;
** Issues with travel / time &lt;br /&gt;
*** Post agendas in advance. &lt;br /&gt;
*** Consider splitting proposals by day -- Tuesday things on Tuesday, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
** Digital divide &lt;br /&gt;
* Encourage further exploration of technology, where appropriate &lt;br /&gt;
** Some meetings are about building the group that is present: for examples, some anti-oppression workshops.  But other meetings could increase accessibility by allowing a digital channel for those not able to be present physically. &lt;br /&gt;
** etherpad/google doc, chat, etc. and projector.  things at a GA, so outside people can participate. &lt;br /&gt;
** Designating a livestream computer as a report-back-able &lt;br /&gt;
*** *But deal with trolls... &lt;br /&gt;
* Think about this tactically -- it could revolutionize democracy, if everyone could be involved. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Macro-GA discussion ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The role of proposals and limitation of proposals as the primary medium. &lt;br /&gt;
* Values of GA? &lt;br /&gt;
* Consensus vs Autonomous Action... How to take consensus and follow action. &lt;br /&gt;
* Purpose of GA? &lt;br /&gt;
** Relationship between personal struggles/lives and this body &lt;br /&gt;
** What role in community, movement, anti-corporate/beloved community? Common challenges? &lt;br /&gt;
* GA more action focused? &lt;br /&gt;
** Put through GA to collective action &lt;br /&gt;
** Primary goal could be large actions &lt;br /&gt;
** How to tailor GA to adjust it for shifting priorities? &lt;br /&gt;
** Other outlets besides GA for things defined out. &lt;br /&gt;
* Urgent: making the GA be regenerative, and not burn-out, is important. &lt;br /&gt;
** Balance minutia of money, infrastructure, process with big issues. &lt;br /&gt;
* Don't shy away from tech solutions. &lt;br /&gt;
* Reduce wasting time. &lt;br /&gt;
* Desire for GA's to provide more discussion time for ideas. &lt;br /&gt;
* GA as a source for inspiration.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Proposals ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* How do proposals come to GA?  What proposals come to GA?  The lengthy process of getting through GA. &lt;br /&gt;
* Have a small group to filter proposals? &lt;br /&gt;
** Not a lot of comfort with that... &lt;br /&gt;
** Do all of the proposals need to be here?  Autonomous, small financial...? &lt;br /&gt;
** Have a temp check first... but things still remain on stack. &lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe better systems for writing proposals? &lt;br /&gt;
** Make the proposals that get to GA well written.  More work on front end needed. &lt;br /&gt;
** People bring proposal to GA with intention of workshopping... but is not purpose... is it? &lt;br /&gt;
* Priority Proposal Process, workshop outside... but is inaccessible. (Time, energy, space) &lt;br /&gt;
** Once a week, use GA space to workshop proposals? &lt;br /&gt;
* Is there a consensus on what we do in GA? &lt;br /&gt;
** Body for making major decisions, or major body for making decisions? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Anti-oppression / Community guidelines ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Writing down proposals is eurocentric. &lt;br /&gt;
* Continuing a meeting without addressing harm that has been done &lt;br /&gt;
* Progressive stack: needs to be more aggressively implemented. &lt;br /&gt;
* Identity in progressive stack can be problematic. &lt;br /&gt;
* Leadership in OB is predominantly white.  Affirmitive Action for leadership. &lt;br /&gt;
* Media, Financial Occupy Boston, etc. need to be diversified. &lt;br /&gt;
* Without anti-opp aspect, does it belong in OB? &lt;br /&gt;
** If there's no diversity in meeting, can it be a meeting? &lt;br /&gt;
** Can we have a proposal if it doesn't include anti-opp? &lt;br /&gt;
* Education: more workshops. &lt;br /&gt;
** Try to get more education, and how dominant culture can be oppressive. &lt;br /&gt;
* Ways of being: need to come from many perspectives. &lt;br /&gt;
* Anti-opp ways of being &lt;br /&gt;
* Making anti-opp non-personal &lt;br /&gt;
* At OB, many people have families, that needs to be on people's mind &lt;br /&gt;
* Invisible disabilities / discrimination. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Blocks ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Why blocks are good: &lt;br /&gt;
** It can turn the majority. &lt;br /&gt;
* Confusion: math of blocks can be confusing. &lt;br /&gt;
* Blocks do tyranny of minority; but protect minority. &lt;br /&gt;
* Everyone owns the decision. &lt;br /&gt;
* People can bully with a block. &lt;br /&gt;
* Blocks can be misused for personal issues. &lt;br /&gt;
* Could a block be a kind of concern, before it's voted on? &lt;br /&gt;
* Order can affect decision making. &lt;br /&gt;
** Support first, blocks second; or block first, support second? &lt;br /&gt;
* Majoritarian/clunky edition of consensus. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Consensus ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Bad: &lt;br /&gt;
** Sometimes there's pressure to conform to the group. &lt;br /&gt;
** The position of proposal is owner; gets in the way of consensus. &lt;br /&gt;
** Should we use the voting system we use now -- consensus oriented, not true consensus? &lt;br /&gt;
** Broken amaretto -- everyone gets behind something they don't like. &lt;br /&gt;
* Good: &lt;br /&gt;
** What we have here isn't that bad. &lt;br /&gt;
** Encourages respectful discussion. &lt;br /&gt;
** Use an open/situational model? &lt;br /&gt;
** How do you resolve concerns? &lt;br /&gt;
** It's important to respect dissenting views/disagreement. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Note taker had to catch a train after the first discussion group.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;[[Category:GA Minutes|GA_Minutes]] &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-26T20:12:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Background info */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- in the mean time, contact abeeeeba@gmail.com to get in the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- poll for scheduling: http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GA_Process_and_Purpose/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12134</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12134"/>
		<updated>2012-02-26T20:12:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Background info */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- in the mean time, contact abeeeeba@gmail.com to get in the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- poll for scheduling: http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GA_Process_and_Purpose/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA_Minutes_Tue_Feb_21_2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.  Includes report-backs from groups discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Tue_Feb_21_2012&amp;diff=12133</id>
		<title>GA Minutes Tue Feb 21 2012</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Minutes_Tue_Feb_21_2012&amp;diff=12133"/>
		<updated>2012-02-26T20:11:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= Minutes for 21 Feb 2012 =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Arlington Street Church, 351 Boylston St., Boston&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Time: 7:00pm --&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Note taker: Steve&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tonights GA consisted of Announcements, and discussions about the GA process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Minutes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Working Group Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Occupy MBTA'''. We're having an action on Saturday Feb 25th, noon, at Copley Square. Our major upcoming actions are March 14th and April 4th. The April 4th action is the more significant one -- that's the day when MBTA funding decisions will be handed over to the state legislature. Next planning Meeting: Friday, 6:00pm at SEIU 615.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Info'''. We just revitalized the info group. Our goal is to enhance communications within the Occupy Movement. We'll meet Wednesday, from 5:00 - 7:00 pm at 29 Windsor Street. We're also trying to launch a new web site function, that features the top 3--5 campaigns that Occupy Boston is working on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Logistics'''. There's a working party this weekend at the logistics house. If you're interested, email [mailto:logistics@occupyboston.org occupyboston.org] for more details.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Signs'''. We had a great action yesterday with Occupy the Prisons. We need material donations. You can drop them off at E5. You can also email [mailto:occupybostonsigns@gmail.com occupybostonsigns@gmail.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''People of Color'''. The POC WG presented a quick video, highlighting yesterday's Occupy the Prisons action. Occupy Oakland put out the call for this action. The US has the highest incarceration rate of any industrialized society. There are two more prison-related events this week. On Thursday, the movie &amp;quot;3000 Years and Life&amp;quot; is showing at the Community Church, 7:30 pm. There's also a rally on this Saturday at 2:00pm on the Boston Commons. For more information about that, see [http://www.freetarek.com/ freetarek.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Social Enterprise'''. We're meeting tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Non Violence'''. We're holding a meeting on Monday March 19th (location TBD), where we'll discuss the power of non-violence. Our next regular meeting will be at 3:00pm March 1st, at 7 Pleasant Place, Cambridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Spaces'''. We're looking for more people. If you're interested, contact [mailto:eli@occupyboston.org eli@occupyboston.org].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Queer DA'''. We have an upcoming action: March Fourth on March 4th. Details TBD, but pay attention to the web site. Our next regular meeting will be held at Friday 8:30pm, City Place.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Decolonize'''. We're sponsoring Monday's Community Gathering. This will be held from 6:00-9:00 pm at Christ Church in Harvard Square. Child care will be provided.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''SAA'''. The strategic action assembly meets Sundays at 5:00pm, at Community Church, 535 Boylston St. Part of the next meeting will be devoted to planning March 14th MBTA actions. We also need cardboard and paint for this weekend's action.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Direct Action'''. Saturday at noon -- meet at Copley Square to march down the Green Line E-train route.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Individual Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Shane'''. The JRC (?) facility in Canton has tortured people for decades; electric shock, food deprivation, and prolonged restraint. We urge you to occupy the JRC. You can contact me at [mailto:s.m.neumeier@gmail.com s.m.neumeier@gmail.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Chang'''. I believe there's a realistic chance for us to capture Washington, particularly over the next 3--4 election cycles. Contact me if you'd like to find out more, and maybe create a working group. You can reach me at [mailto:ylc200804@yahoo.com ylc200804@yahoo.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Terra'''. Hundreds of towns and cities have enacted legislating denying corporate personhood. There's a teach-in this Saturday in Action, from 10:00 - 6:00. The teach-in will show citizens how to organize, and fight corporations. Contact [mailto:terraf@compuserve.com terraf@compuserve.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Tim'''. Occupy Harvard occupied the Lamont Library for a week. See [http://occupyharvard.net occupyharvard.net]. We've started holding think tanks; these are discussions on pre-set topics. We did this twice a day during the occupations, and we'll continue to hold them twice a week. Everyone is invited. Look for the &amp;quot;Think Tank&amp;quot; page on [http://occupyharvard.net occupyharvard.net]. You can also write [mailto:ohinteroccupy@gmail.com ohinteroccupy@gmail.com].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''David'''. We're collaborating with organizations in East Boston. On May first, we want to shut these cities down. (May 1st is the general strike day.) I'd encourage all of you to do this in your own neighborhoods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Nick'''. The April 2nd community gathering will be an open house. If your working group wants to participate, email me at [mailto:nbokron@gmail.com nbokron@gmail.com]. (If your working group wants to participate, then you'll need to have someone there on April 2nd.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Ben'''. I'm starting a priority process procedure. Next Tuesday, I'll bring a proposal to GA to end American-Style Democracy. I'll send the proposal to facilitation before then, so that facilitation can post it on the web site. Contact me at [mailto:ben@occupyboston.org ben@occupyboston.org].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Bill'''. Several people have asked about the book. Contact me if you're interested.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Alex I'''. A few days ago, ESPN fired one person over racial slurs directed at a basketball payer. It's one of the most honest conversations about racial issues that I've ever seen. I'm going to post links to a video on my Facebook at Twitter accounts -- I want everyone to go and watch this video.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Jay'''. The spokes council met to talk about the March 17th action. I'd like to invite working group representatives to attend our Sunday meetings. They're held at 8:30 pm (check occupyboston.org calendar of events). March 17th is evacuation day, and we've got several events planned. There will also be discussions on Wed. 6:00 pm at city place. Again, check the occupyboston.org calendar.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Matt'''. We're about to have a big discussion about facilitation. The facilitation working group meets Tues, Thurs, and Saturday at city place, two hours before general assemblies. (note taker: Matt rattled of a few other meeting times, and completely lost me. Check the calendar). We'd like more people to get involved in facilitation. Contact us at [mailto:facilitation@occupyboston.org facilitation@occupyboston.org]. Also -- if you have GA minutes, or links to GA minutes, then please send them to us for posting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Cora'''. I do behind the scenes food support for Occupy Boston, to make sure that all of you get fed. (Lots of twinkle fingers) Tonight, we have burritos -- please take some!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Time is now approx 8:05 pm)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== GA Discussions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tonight, we'll have two discussion sessions about different GA-related topics, followed by report-backs. Occupy Boston's GA and decision-making processes are something that we kind of jumped into; we'd like to have a more thought-out discussion about these processes. Tonight's goal: find out what the major issues are, and how we can address them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We briefly break up into groups, and each group comes up with a few issues. There are lots of issues, which we organize into eight topics.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
*Community Guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
*Anti-Oppression&lt;br /&gt;
*Macro Goals&lt;br /&gt;
*Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
*Accessibility / Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
*Facilitation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We break up into discussion groups ....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Accessibility and logistics ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Make accessibility a priority. &lt;br /&gt;
** People with disabilities. &lt;br /&gt;
*** Try to get interpreters / signers &lt;br /&gt;
*** Post whether or not meeting places are accessibile, provide child care, have gender-neutral restrooms, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
*** Be mindful of more than one person speaking at a time as an accessibility issue. &lt;br /&gt;
*** Physical barriers &lt;br /&gt;
** Issues with travel / time &lt;br /&gt;
*** Post agendas in advance. &lt;br /&gt;
*** Consider splitting proposals by day -- Tuesday things on Tuesday, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
** Digital divide &lt;br /&gt;
* Encourage further exploration of technology, where appropriate &lt;br /&gt;
** Some meetings are about building the group that is present: for examples, some anti-oppression workshops.  But other meetings could increase accessibility by allowing a digital channel for those not able to be present physically. &lt;br /&gt;
** etherpad/google doc, chat, etc. and projector.  things at a GA, so outside people can participate. &lt;br /&gt;
** Designating a livestream computer as a report-back-able &lt;br /&gt;
*** *But deal with trolls... &lt;br /&gt;
* Think about this tactically -- it could revolutionize democracy, if everyone could be involved. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Macro-GA discussion ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The role of proposals and limitation of proposals as the primary medium. &lt;br /&gt;
* Values of GA? &lt;br /&gt;
* Consensus vs Autonomous Action... How to take consensus and follow action. &lt;br /&gt;
* Purpose of GA? &lt;br /&gt;
** Relationship between personal struggles/lives and this body &lt;br /&gt;
** What role in community, movement, anti-corporate/beloved community? Common challenges? &lt;br /&gt;
* GA more action focused? &lt;br /&gt;
** Put through GA to collective action &lt;br /&gt;
** Primary goal could be large actions &lt;br /&gt;
** How to tailor GA to adjust it for shifting priorities? &lt;br /&gt;
** Other outlets besides GA for things defined out. &lt;br /&gt;
* Urgent: making the GA be regenerative, and not burn-out, is important. &lt;br /&gt;
** Balance minutia of money, infrastructure, process with big issues. &lt;br /&gt;
* Don't shy away from tech solutions. &lt;br /&gt;
* Reduce wasting time. &lt;br /&gt;
* Desire for GA's to provide more discussion time for ideas. &lt;br /&gt;
* GA as a source for inspiration.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Proposals ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* How do proposals come to GA?  What proposals come to GA?  The lengthy process of getting through GA. &lt;br /&gt;
* Have a small group to filter proposals? &lt;br /&gt;
** Not a lot of comfort with that... &lt;br /&gt;
** Do all of the proposals need to be here?  Autonomous, small financial...? &lt;br /&gt;
** Have a temp check first... but things still remain on stack. &lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe better systems for writing proposals? &lt;br /&gt;
** Make the proposals that get to GA well written.  More work on front end needed. &lt;br /&gt;
** People bring proposal to GA with intention of workshopping... but is not purpose... is it? &lt;br /&gt;
* Priority Proposal Process, workshop outside... but is inaccessible. (Time, energy, space) &lt;br /&gt;
** Once a week, use GA space to workshop proposals? &lt;br /&gt;
* Is there a consensus on what we do in GA? &lt;br /&gt;
** Body for making major decisions, or major body for making decisions? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Anti-oppression / Community guidelines ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Writing down proposals is eurocentric. &lt;br /&gt;
* Continuing a meeting without addressing harm that has been done &lt;br /&gt;
* Progressive stack: needs to be more aggressively implemented. &lt;br /&gt;
* Identity in progressive stack can be problematic. &lt;br /&gt;
* Leadership in OB is predominantly white.  Affirmitive Action for leadership. &lt;br /&gt;
* Media, Financial Occupy Boston, etc. need to be diversified. &lt;br /&gt;
* Without anti-opp aspect, does it belong in OB? &lt;br /&gt;
** If there's no diversity in meeting, can it be a meeting? &lt;br /&gt;
** Can we have a proposal if it doesn't include anti-opp? &lt;br /&gt;
* Education: more workshops. &lt;br /&gt;
** Try to get more education, and how dominant culture can be oppressive. &lt;br /&gt;
* Ways of being: need to come from many perspectives. &lt;br /&gt;
* Anti-opp ways of being &lt;br /&gt;
* Making anti-opp non-personal &lt;br /&gt;
* At OB, many people have families, that needs to be on people's mind &lt;br /&gt;
* Invisible disabilities / discrimination. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Blocks ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Why blocks are good: &lt;br /&gt;
** It can turn the majority. &lt;br /&gt;
* Confusion: math of blocks can be confusing. &lt;br /&gt;
* Blocks do tyranny of minority; but protect minority. &lt;br /&gt;
* Everyone owns the decision. &lt;br /&gt;
* People can bully with a block. &lt;br /&gt;
* Blocks can be misused for personal issues. &lt;br /&gt;
* Could a block be a kind of concern, before it's voted on? &lt;br /&gt;
* Order can affect decision making. &lt;br /&gt;
** Support first, blocks second; or block first, support second? &lt;br /&gt;
* Majoritarian/clunky edition of consensus. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Consensus ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Bad: &lt;br /&gt;
** Sometimes there's pressure to conform to the group. &lt;br /&gt;
** The position of proposal is owner; gets in the way of consensus. &lt;br /&gt;
** Should we use the voting system we use now -- consensus oriented, not true consensus? &lt;br /&gt;
** Broken amaretto -- everyone gets behind something they don't like. &lt;br /&gt;
* Good: &lt;br /&gt;
** What we have here isn't that bad. &lt;br /&gt;
** Encourages respectful discussion. &lt;br /&gt;
** Use an open/situational model? &lt;br /&gt;
** How do you resolve concerns? &lt;br /&gt;
** It's important to respect dissenting views/disagreement. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Note taker had to catch a train after the first discussion group.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;[[Category:GA Minutes|GA_Minutes]] &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12132</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12132"/>
		<updated>2012-02-26T20:03:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Background info */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- in the mean time, contact abeeeeba@gmail.com to get in the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- poll for scheduling: http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GA_Process_and_Purpose/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA_Minutes_Tue_Feb_21_2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.&lt;br /&gt;
** http://notes.occupy.net/p/goatFuviSP : Report-backs from breakout groups for the following 7 topics:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
*** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
*** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
*** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
*** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
*** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12131</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12131"/>
		<updated>2012-02-26T20:02:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: /* Background info */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- in the mean time, contact abeeeeba@gmail.com to get in the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- poll for scheduling: http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GA_Process_and_Purpose/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA_Minutes_Tue_Feb_21_2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.&lt;br /&gt;
* http://notes.occupy.net/p/goatFuviSP : Report-backs from breakout groups for the following 7 topics:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Working groups]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12130</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12130"/>
		<updated>2012-02-26T20:01:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This working group has the specific intention of taking at the processes and purposes of the General Assembly, and generating proposals for how to improve the process in anticipation of growth in the spring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mailing List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- in the mean time, contact abeeeeba@gmail.com to get in the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meeting Time ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TBA -- poll for scheduling: http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GA_Process_and_Purpose/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[GA_Minutes_Tue_Feb_21_2012]]: Minutes for GA about GA's, Tue Feb 21.&lt;br /&gt;
* http://notes.occupy.net/p/goatFuviSP : Report-backs from breakout groups for the following 7 topics:&lt;br /&gt;
** Accessibility and Logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** Macro-GA discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-oppression / Community guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
** Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
** Consensus&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12129</id>
		<title>GA Process and Purpose</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=GA_Process_and_Purpose&amp;diff=12129"/>
		<updated>2012-02-26T19:56:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cfdfc: Created page with &amp;quot;test&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;test&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cfdfc</name></author>
	</entry>
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