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'''<span style="font-size:large;">VALUES Data:</span>'''

data of resoponses to the question: "What Values do you feel that we, as Occupy Boston, all share?" that was posed on a white board, was surveyed from someone walking around asking, and a ideas collection box in front of the Ghandi Statue.  Collection occurred around Nov 1st, 2011.

Here is the word cloud that is the ~15% of responses that involved a concept that can be seen as a Value.  NOTE: the other 85% of comments are not in this word cloud:

<br/>[[File:Ideas values raw.png|300x358px|RTENOTITLE]]\

RAW DATA:
<div>'''FROM THE CAMP INTERVIEWS (Eric):'''  </div><div><div>
'''<u>What are the values that we, as Occupy Boston, all share? </u>'''

(below are the responses to this question by campers and people in the camp on 11/5/11 and 11/6/11, not necessarily within the definition of Values)

·         Change.  Everyone wants Change.  Change in society, employment, fixing the nation, taxing the rich

·         Some don’t know how to express it, what they value here

·         Media misreads Occupy Boston,

o   Press sees only the ‘bad eggs.’ 

o   Press is motivated by the negatives. Negative press has political issues. 

o   Not enough positive press from ‘liberal’ papers; the liberal papers are afraid to commit because Occupy Boston is diverse

·         Have to get political-

o   Go after your congressman

o   Do something

o   Sign a petition

o   Empower people to circulate petitions in the community for you

o   Have a platform of 5 issues

o   Be political and harness the power of the people

·         Small is beautiful

·         Return to community values

·         Be neighborly

·         We are angry, we want change

·         We are here, we are present, this our presence, we engage by being here

·         Our presence is making his a rejuvenation of our democracy

·         To rejuvenate the past American apathy

·         We have been stripped of public places.  Private clubs have overtaken our open spaces

·         We are ‘cross-partisan’.  Not one political group can claim us

·         Want lobbying reform; campaign finance reform;

·         Repeal the Citizen-United bill

·         Boycotting of large banks, supporting small banks

·         Get money out of politics

o   Norfaust pledge

·         Laws against monopolies have not been enforced

·         Media has merged into mega-opolies

·         We are the Voice of the People

·         The voice of the people has been silent since Vietnam

·         Just be fair

·         Be fair to your fellow human beings

·         Judge a country by how they treat their poor

·         Create a Transaction Tax on stock trades, etc., to take the volatility out of the stock market

·         Strength in numbers

·         Sustainable community; Proof that it needs to exist and keep growing

·         Inclusive, not exclusive

·         Renewal of patriotism

·         A new definition of patriotism

·         Diverse, but self-sustaining community

·         Occupy is proof that it can be done

·         Care

·         Concern, concern for our country, concern for others

·         Productive

·         Solves problems collectively

·         People are inquisitive, looking for Questions and Answers

·         System is broken

·         Encouragement

·         We need this movement

·         Brings in young people into the political spectrum

·         The young people here are living it

·         Object to the injustice that large wealth is fixed within a small group

·         Patriotism must be redefined as loving humanity through living in your country

·         Shouldn’t have bailed out Wall Street.  That was the rich bailing out the rich, giving trillions to the wealthiest sector who performed the greatest incompetence, while the hard working average citizen struggles under the consequences which they did not cause, and receive no bailout and zero support.

·         Healthcare policy flip-flops and unknowns freeze funds and corporations must hoard to prepare for future

·         Good will has value, good will creates revenue

·         “Occupy” is a spectrum of greivances

·         “Occupy” has become a brand name, but its real face is obscured to the outside world by loud Anarchists and Union opportunists

·         From the outside, it looks like the Occupy movement means “Give me something”

o   But at the same time, Occupy tells the Homeless to “Go away”

·         Too much money drives political elections

·         There seems to be a lack of leadership, there is no individual spokesperson

·         There seems to be a lack of connection to other Occupies

·         Our lack of tight connection to OWS, etc., shows how Grass Roots we all are

·         Mayor Menino says “Civil Disobedience has no place in the modern world”, but we say the opposite

·         Minimize the Achievement Gap in education system

o   Discrepancy between students of color vs. Caucasian and Asian, somewhat related to socio-economic rasons

o   Give equal access to education

o   Evaluate students by state tests alone are not enough, need teacher input

o   Restructure the standardized tests

·         Fairness

·         Democracy and Freedom, although Democracy and Freedom can be at tension with each other

o   Balance the socialist projects with individual liberties

·         Acting from Love and human aesthetics

·         Disappointed that there is money to bailout the banks, but not enough money to help out the common person

·         “Education” should not be judged by the college degree alone

·         Democracy with respect

·         Seeing the experiment here working, and spreading it outwards

·         It’s about pure democracy

·         This (Occupy) is the America that we all grew up believing in. 

·         Corruption of politics has choked the voice of the individual

·         Money speaks now, not people

·         That it costs so much to run an election, the common man cannot be elected to represent his/her peers

·         The awareness is not the endgame, Occupy needs to stimulate actions

·         Occupy needs 3 or 4 hard things to stand for

·         Honest publicly funded, publicly financed campaigns

·         Must overturn the Citizen’s United bill

·         Re-instate the Glas-Steegle Act, to better regulate banks and financial institutions

·         Transaction Tax on Wall Street trades

·         We are all here for similar reasons, but for different reasons.

·         Truth, not just in taxes

·         Correct fundamental inequalities

o   OB is dealing with financial qualities pretty well

·         We should strive to reduce oppression, even if our political goal is something different

·         Financial equality is the microeconomic view; Economic equality is the macroeconomic view

·         Right wing isn’t worth dealing with

·         Shouldn’t demonize conservatives because they disagree; conservatives donate more than liberals to the poor.

 

 

FROM THE WHITEBOARD:  ------------------------

'''<u>What are the values that we, as Occupy Boston, all share? </u>'''

 

·         Respecting ALL people

·         Respectfully demonstrating authentic democracy

·         There’s more to life than money

·         People are not disposable

·         ''Discipuli Scolae Latinae Bostoniensis Dicunt: “OCCUPATE BOSTONIAM!”''

·         I value a society that supports non-violence

·         Pro-Family

·         Self-Knowledge and Self Respect

·         Restore the National Tariff/Import Tax

·         Poverty is not a choice!  (Unfair? Yes, but it’s unsustainable, bound to fail)

·         Have not greed for yourself, but for your country and for this world.

·         The 1% are nothing more than politicians motivated by money and power.  We the people are motivated by Quality, Unity, and Love

·         The 1% are the ruling class rich

·         Ask the good question

·         I also question my own greed

·         Economic Patriotism

·         A non-violent community

·         Spirit Fire

·         Compassion

·         Dignity

·         Public Funding of Public Functions, like Elections

·         Corporations should NOT be allowed to gund political parties

·         Self determination

·         I value a society that values humanity more than $$

·         It is not the ''right'' of “We the people” to peaceably assemble for the redress of grievances, it is our patriotic ''DUTY'' to do so. We are Americans.  We are our countrymen’s keepers, and they are ours. Together we are AmeriCANS, financially and socially and racially; otherwise, we are AmeriCAN’TS. 

·         Oneness

 
</div><div><br/></div></div><div><br/></div><div>'''Comments left in the Occupy Boston Ideas working group'''</div><div>'''box in front of the Ghandi Statue, anwering the same question as above.'''</div><div><br/></div><div>''Comments were taken out before the ideas working group meeting 9:30pm''</div><div>''on Sunday Nov. 6th 2011. Compiled by Andrew''</div><div><br/></div><div><br/></div><div>-       Fill bank mailing envelopes with junk mail and return them – make it</div><div>as heavy as you can</div><div>-       Respect for everyone’s need to have food shelter safety education</div><div>well-being and a say in how their government deploys resources</div><div>-       For the rich to promote economic fairness</div><div>-       Stop corporate power from influencing our government</div><div>-       Earth Care, People Care, Fairshare (The 3 ethics of Permaculture)</div><div>-       Eliminate the power to money in the political process</div><div>-       Non-violence</div><div>-       Justice, Equality, Fairness for all, Importance of Taking a stand</div><div>for these values.  Stand against corporate greed!  Corruption in</div><div>Government.</div><div>-       Can you or will you define “Occupy Boston”? If this term is meant to</div><div>mean the people living, staying and working in Dewey Square we share</div><div>NO COMMON VALUES.  The majority of people here are committed to</div><div>violence.  Don’t believe me?  Ask a person what they will do if</div><div>struck.  Most will promise you “I will strike back”</div><div>-       Equality for all.</div><div>-       Keep the spirit alive. Non-violent. Feed people. Housing and health</div><div>care.  Should be fundamental rights for all people – there is enough</div><div>money in this country to care for all people.  No starving children or</div><div>elderly.</div><div>-       Great Work! This is an awesome Idea Ideas Group</div><div>-       We need to organize more acts of civil disobedience to bring</div><div>attention to the main topic of occupy.  We fight to result our</div><div>democracy from the corporate oligarchy… to rescue our democracy</div><div>against corporatocracy.</div><div>-       Differentiate between short term and long term goals. A) sort term</div><div>job stimulus. B) long-term reduce military as well as other benefits.</div><div>C) accept that changes to social security, Medicare and Medicaid are</div><div>needed. They can be made more progressively paid for rather than</div><div>sacrifice benefit levels and eligibility.  A good planet is hard to</div><div>find!</div><div>-       Non-violence.  Social justice, volunteerism and can-do spirit.</div><div>Standing for something. Individuality combined with unity.</div><div>Non-violent.  Regulate American companies that have moved from</div><div>country. Revolution.  Save our democracy from corporate oligarchs end</div><div>the corporatocracy. Pro-freedom and virtue.  Pro-economic patriotism.</div><div>Pro-family. Anti-corporate corruption. Anti-corporate parasitism.</div><div>Anti-economic treason.</div><div>-       What do you stand for?</div><div>-       This place is a fuckin’ joke homeless & drug addicts only a matter</div><div>of time before mayor shuts down.</div><div>-       Saftey is a joke</div><div>-       The common good should benefit everyone involved.  When we dicide</div><div>the issues we stand for they should be made so that the average</div><div>American can get on board by relating to them.  If we loose sight of</div><div>the goals we set out attempting to accomplish we will fail.  The most</div><div>important thing to tdo is keep communicating.  Especially the lost and</div><div>hopeless who wander in like refugees hoping to finally find content.</div><div>-       We are all in this together.  Keep it up.</div><div>-       look after others as you would look out for yourself.</div><div>-       Unfair?  It is.  But its worse than unfair.  It’s unsustainable.</div><div>Bound to fail.  As it is doing now.  We need a new system.  The only</div><div>thing that will work is social credit.</div><div>-       I would like to say bless all that stand in the face of oppression</div><div>and don’t blink.</div><div>-       We want cahnage ant he end of the monetary system.  We all</div><div>understand the universe is dynamic with no stable state.  We are that</div><div>pendulum.</div><div>-       Here is a chance for people who felt forgotten and marginalized to</div><div>come together and feel that each one of us counts. Boycott big bands.</div><div>Put your money in a safe place instead.</div><div>-       Honesty.  An honest day’s pay for an honest day’s work.  Free</div><div>assembly.  Consensus. Right of every voice to be heard.</div><div>-       That people should be more represented by the government.  That our</div><div>whold environment needs protection and respect.  That we humans are</div><div>not the only beings that count.  That we need to work far more for</div><div>ways to establish peaceful solutions.  Though it may take much effort</div><div>and time.</div><div>-       Having more money does not give you more of a right to be heard.</div><div>Capitolism is not a perfect system.  No system is perfect.  It is our</div><div>responsibility to inject the system with ethics and morality.</div><div>-       To enhance a better life for us all together as one.</div><div>Love/compassion/joy/happiness/oneness.</div><div>-       The essence of America. Community. Saftey. Individuality.</div><div>Neighborliness. Support. Creativity. The common goal of removing</div><div>corporations influsne on government and cive dielide of fascisim.</div><div>Wanting America to be “great” and the “land of opportunity for all,</div><div>not some. Drives ambition.  Resourcefullness.  Willing to listen</div><div>(consensus). Wanting to take back the “American Dream”. Cleanliness.</div><div>Consistensy. Sorry for my somewhat ambiguous terms, America is riddled</div><div>w/ certain prrases and terms of endearment to describe.</div><div>-       Dicksucking</div><div>-       Non-Violence. Suffering. Love.</div><div>-       Draft: A message from Occupy Boston Past: Statement of</div><div>OccupationToday the United States is confronted by a toxic mix of</div><div>financial, social, and environmental catastrophes that demand a</div><div>thorough and immediate solution. The common root of these disasters is</div><div>the domination of our social, economic, and political lives by the</div><div>interests of a financially prosperous minority. The actions of this 1%</div><div>threaten our lives, the lives of all the Earth’s creatures, our</div><div>livelihoods, our liberty, our shared humanity, and our common future.</div><div>In response, we, the General Assembly of Occupy Boston have abandoned</div><div>usual democratic channels and chosen instead direct democracy. The</div><div>corrupt order amidst which we live demands a profound collective</div><div>response. Occupy Boston is that response. Because, the problems of</div><div>economic inequality, unemployment, and crushing debt, are all</div><div>symptomatic of the larger corrupting influence money has had on our</div><div>political and social lives, Because, this influence has impeded</div><div>progress toward a more just and sustainable society, has perpetuated</div><div>crisis at home, war abroad and perverts democratic action, Because,</div><div>the pursuit of the elites has had an even more devastating effect on</div><div>the more vulnerable and less empowered members of our community as</div><div>well as on the ecosystems upon which our species depends, Because,</div><div>this financial minority also own or control, directly or indirectly,</div><div>the media and legal apparatus: we have retaken the commons and</div><div>resurrected direct democracy.   / Present: Statement of PurposeWe the</div><div>people who have occupied Dewey Square, under the name Occupy Boston,</div><div>have done so in order to maintain a place, where all voices are</div><div>welcome for the open discussion of ideas, grievances, and potential</div><div>solutions to the problems apparent in our society. We are and will be</div><div>holding general assemblies where proposals may be brought to the group</div><div>as a whole, to be consented to. We have and will continue to occupy</div><div>this space for the purpose of DEMOCRACY. / Be it resolved that we, the</div><div>General Assembly of Occupy Boston, acting in solidarity with</div><div>occupations across America and with peoples' movements worldwide, do</div><div>hereby declare our opposition to all systems of power that function to</div><div>maintain oppressive and undemocratic systems. We declare that a better</div><div>world is possible, and that it is our right and responsibility to</div><div>begin creating it. / Future: Mission Statement / Our mission is to</div><div>give birth to a just and compassionate body politic that will tread</div><div>lightly upon the Earth. Our mission will be accomplished when these</div><div>goals are met: / 1. The US has a sustainable peace time economy. 2.</div><div>The voices of the 99% are heard and acted upon. 3. All the Earth’s</div><div>ecosystems are healthy. 4. In allocating resources, the US government</div><div>priorities the needs of the environment and the 99% who are not</div><div>wealthy.</div>

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Ideas

2011-11-22T21:22:26Z

Tfaing:

== Working Group Meeting Times ==

*Meetings have been set for 7pm Wednesdays, and Sunday night 9:30. The active times we have generally had public discussions are Monday nights at 7pm in the GA area and Friday nights at 7pm in the GA area.
*meetings are held across Atlantic Avenue in the Federal Reserve Plaza. As it gets colder we will meet there then go somewhere else, such as South Station.
*[[Ideas working group meeting notes]]

== Upcoming Public Discussions ==

*Held in the GA area, unless otherwise specified
*Topics set based on suggestions collected online [http://wiki.occupyboston.org/index.php?title=Vote_here&action=edit vote here] and on the whiteboard outside Media tent

Want to set the agenda for future Public Discussions? [[Vote here]]

[[Join the Ideas email list]] - email your ideas, join the online conversation, and view the archive of discussions

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== Public Discussion Minutes & Notes ==

=== Friday, 18 November ===
*Went through the new process for GA meetings put forth by the facilitators group. The mock topic was a proposal to add a values statement to the Statement of Purpose.
*Here is the feedback from the procedure:
**Facilitators need to be the ones writing on the whiteboard
**Process needs to keep going and sometimes be changed in order to figure out how to move forward.
**It may be that the best model for GA is not for people to propose a document that should be ratified, rather to propose the discussion of a document.
**Some people were lost during the discussion due to the new nature of the process.
**There is confusion in the new process of what happens after amendments had been made. This seems like a delicate point in the process.
**We still do not have a way for the GA to create a proposal.
**It may be beneficial for the facilitator, in the fly, to guide the synthesis of what GA is saying, and change the process as it needs to happen. This is tricky because the facilitators cannot help being biased. Another way is to have a very polished process that can handle many scenarios, but how to find that process?
**The new method does activate people's minds more - it tapped into the "creative capitol" of the GA better.
**we found that at one point the process did not fit the need of what we needed to do anymore at one point.
**There was a desire from many to keep the procedure fluid and adaptable somehow. Hopefully that fluidity can be written into the process (catch-22?)
**the facilitators need to have and be trusted with an extensive toolbox of process that will allow the fluidity of the discussion.
**It was noted that you are always giving your freedom up to the process, or a facilitator, or the loudest voice in GA. We are picking.

=== Wednesday, 16 November ===
*Announcement/Get the word out about Occupy Declaration: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Percent_Declaration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Percent_Declaration]
*Proposal to create an information card for how to discuss the Occupy movement with families on Thanksgiving.  The information card could give suggestions on how to talk about Occupy, but also remind to collect ideas from family members which can then be brought back to the camp for discussion.
*Discussion of possibly wording statements so that they are not as inclusive, by using words like "most of us", etc.  Debated whether this is a good strategy, no position was taken.
*Discussion on the purpose of statements of purpose, and how it can guide its development. Mention that it can act as a guide to how we live responsibly with each other in the camp (internal purpose), and how we may bring people into solidarity with the movement (external), or how it will guide our actions as we move forward (intermal/external).
**Also it is noted that most of the good work that is done within Occupy Boston needs no Statement to happen, and that a multitude of different occupy movements have a wide range of different statement sizes, breadth, meaning, or do not have any statements at all.  No position was taken, however it was consented on that if we did draft a potential proposed Values statement, it might mention the internal and external purposes. (Note: google doc of all Occupy statement's movements here: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsPuWV2D8UjB-N5WrmxZM7QxGJIABHON-ya3YtGawx0/edit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsPuWV2D8UjB-N5WrmxZM7QxGJIABHON-ya3YtGawx0/edit])
*Discussion of what the proposal that we will raise at the facilitation testing of the new GA process on Friday.  We decided that it will be to propose that a values statement to be added to the Statement of Purpose.
*Discussion of what values to start off the discussion will be (Tess has the list, i forgot to write it down)
*Decision to set the date of the GA for the real proposal is Tuesday Nov 22.
*Decision to table the discussion of the whitehouse.gov/petition discussion of what petition to create until Sunday's Ideas meeting.
*Decision for a topic of discussion for an Ideas Public Discussion sometime after the Summit:
*Discussion of all of the Authors that have drafted Mission Statements, Declarations of Occupation, etc. to offer their ideas to the public and garner feedback in a discussion format.

=== Friday, 11 November ===

VALUES that came out of the meeting:

*knowledge
**education
**awareness
**information
**transparency
*unity
*change x2
*respect
**diversity
*making "freedom" bigger
*non-violence x2
*peaceful
*consensus
*horizontal democracy x2
*solidarity
*equality
*fairness
*concern for others x2
*freedom
*positivity
*generosity
*compassion
*sustainability
*honesty
*unity
*cooperation
*mutual aid
*resistance to oppresion
*kindness
*empathy
*dialogue
*civility

<br/>SENTENCES that came out of the meeting:

*In an effort to create a more just and sustainable socitey, we will strive to embody the values of: inclusivity, honesty, non-violence, comapssion, cooperation, and ecological integrity.
*We seek to foster a cuture of inclusivity, a practice of sustainability, and a spirit of compassion.
*We beleive that in working towards change, we need to pread knowledge while maintainin a unity based on respect

[[File:Ideas values raw.png|300x358px|RTENOTITLE]]\

Original word cloud that was used to start the evening's discussion (word coud data collected from surveying the camp to answer the question "What values do we, as Occupy Boston, all share?"

see all [[ideas working group values data]].

=== Friday, November 4 ===

Facilitator: Marty
Facilitator: Forest
Minutes: Mallory
Stack Taker: None

The discussion followed this format:

*Introduction (10 minutes)
*Breakout Group Formation (individuals on stack) (20 minutes)
*Group Discussions (45 minutes)
*Group Stack/Presentations (10 minutes per group x 3 groups = 30 minutes)
*Conclusion/Summary

Breakout groups were formed after an opening discussion about what people wanted to talk about. The three breakout groups were:

*Local Issues
*Occupy as Paradigm Shift
*Functional divisions in the movement and occupy boston (i.e. offline/online, onsite/offsite)

Some noted questions/comments that resulted at the end of discussion:

*How does occupy reach into rural areas? Also, what about occupy gardens/farms?
*How to include people whose time is filled with work obligations (i.e. how to occupy time the same way we are currently occupying space)?
*"laboratory space" to describe our ideas discussions.

Two functional issues with discussion format identified by facilitator (Forest) were:

*Breakout groups for the most part lacked facilitation, stack taker, timekeepers, or minute recorders. In the future groups should ideally follow an established process for discussion.

*People who tended to agree seemed to clump together in the smaller groups. Maybe experimenting with starting groups with members randomly assigned and *then* applying law of two feet would be worthwhile? Also, instructing group initiators to make sure their group has someone taking stack?

WG/Strategies/Ideas/Brainstorm

2011-11-22T21:21:36Z

Tfaing:

Ideas

2011-11-21T15:06:13Z

Tfaing: /* Public Discussion Minutes & Notes */

== Working Group Meeting Times ==

*Meetings have been set for 7pm Wednesdays, and Sunday night 9:30. The active times we have generally had public discussions are Monday nights at 7pm in the GA area and Friday nights at 7pm in the GA area.
*meetings are held across Atlantic Avenue in the Federal Reserve Plaza. As it gets colder we will meet there then go somewhere else, such as South Station.
*[[Ideas working group meeting notes]]

== Upcoming Public Discussions ==

*Held in the GA area, unless otherwise specified
*Topics set based on suggestions collected online [http://wiki.occupyboston.org/index.php?title=Vote_here&action=edit vote here] and on the whiteboard outside Media tent

Want to set the agenda for future Public Discussions? [[Vote here]]

[[Join the Ideas email list]] - email your ideas, join the online conversation, and view the archive of discussions

[http://wiki.occupyboston.org/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&returnto=Main_Page Join the wiki]. Have some ideas you are developing? Consider putting a link to them in the group workspace: [[User:WG-ideas]] You can also create your own user page by clicking on your name in the upper right.

== Public Discussion Minutes & Notes ==

=== Friday, 18 November ===
*Went through the new process for GA meetings put forth by the facilitators group. The mock topic was a proposal to add a values statement to the Statement of Purpose.
*Here is the feedback from the procedure:
**Facilitators need to be the ones writing on the whiteboard
**Process needs to keep going and sometimes be changed in order to figure out how to move forward.
**It may be that the best model for GA is not for people to propose a document that should be ratified, rather to propose the discussion of a document.
**Some people were lost during the discussion due to the new nature of the process.
**There is confusion in the new process of what happens after amendments had been made. This seems like a delicate point in the process.
**We still do not have a way for the GA to create a proposal.
**It may be beneficial for the facilitator, in the fly, to guide the synthesis of what GA is saying, and change the process as it needs to happen. This is tricky because the facilitators cannot help being biased. Another way is to have a very polished process that can handle many scenarios, but how to find that process?
**The new method does activate people's minds more - it tapped into the "creative capitol" of the GA better.
**we found that at one point the process did not fit the need of what we needed to do anymore at one point.
**There was a desire from many to keep the procedure fluid and adaptable somehow. Hopefully that fluidity can be written into the process (catch-22?)
**the facilitators need to have and be trusted with an extensive toolbox of process that will allow the fluidity of the discussion.
**It was noted that you are always giving your freedom up to the process, or a facilitator, or the loudest voice in GA. We are picking.

=== Wednesday, 16 November ===
*Announcement/Get the word out about Occupy Declaration: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Percent_Declaration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Percent_Declaration]
*Proposal to create an information card for how to discuss the Occupy movement with families on Thanksgiving.  The information card could give suggestions on how to talk about Occupy, but also remind to collect ideas from family members which can then be brought back to the camp for discussion.
*Discussion of possibly wording statements so that they are not as inclusive, by using words like "most of us", etc.  Debated whether this is a good strategy, no position was taken.
*Discussion on the purpose of statements of purpose, and how it can guide its development. Mention that it can act as a guide to how we live responsibly with each other in the camp (internal purpose), and how we may bring people into solidarity with the movement (external), or how it will guide our actions as we move forward (intermal/external).
**Also it is noted that most of the good work that is done within Occupy Boston needs no Statement to happen, and that a multitude of different occupy movements have a wide range of different statement sizes, breadth, meaning, or do not have any statements at all.  No position was taken, however it was consented on that if we did draft a potential proposed Values statement, it might mention the internal and external purposes. (Note: google doc of all Occupy statement's movements here: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsPuWV2D8UjB-N5WrmxZM7QxGJIABHON-ya3YtGawx0/edit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsPuWV2D8UjB-N5WrmxZM7QxGJIABHON-ya3YtGawx0/edit])
*Discussion of what the proposal that we will raise at the facilitation testing of the new GA process on Friday.  We decided that it will be to propose that a values statement to be added to the Statement of Purpose.
*Discussion of what values to start off the discussion will be (Tess has the list, i forgot to write it down)
*Decision to set the date of the GA for the real proposal is Tuesday Nov 22.
*Decision to table the discussion of the whitehouse.gov/petition discussion of what petition to create until Sunday's Ideas meeting.
*Decision for a topic of discussion for an Ideas Public Discussion sometime after the Summit:
*Discussion of all of the Authors that have drafted Mission Statements, Declarations of Occupation, etc. to offer their ideas to the public and garner feedback in a discussion format.

=== Friday, 11 November ===

VALUES that came out of the meeting:

*knowledge
**education
**awareness
**information
**transparency
*unity
*change x2
*respect
**diversity
*making "freedom" bigger
*non-violence x2
*peaceful
*consensus
*horizontal democracy x2
*solidarity
*equality
*fairness
*concern for others x2
*freedom
*positivity
*generosity
*compassion
*sustainability
*honesty
*unity
*cooperation
*mutual aid
*resistance to oppresion
*kindness
*empathy
*dialogue
*civility

<br/>SENTENCES that came out of the meeting:

*In an effort to create a more just and sustainable socitey, we will strive to embody the values of: inclusivity, honesty, non-violence, comapssion, cooperation, and ecological integrity.
*We seek to foster a cuture of inclusivity, a practice of sustainability, and a spirit of compassion.
*We beleive that in working towards change, we need to pread knowledge while maintainin a unity based on respect

[[File:Ideas values raw.png|300x358px|RTENOTITLE]]\

Original word cloud that was used to start the evening's discussion (word coud data collected from surveying the camp to answer the question "What values do we, as Occupy Boston, all share?"

=== Friday, November 4 ===

Facilitator: Marty
Facilitator: Forest
Minutes: Mallory
Stack Taker: None

The discussion followed this format:

*Introduction (10 minutes)
*Breakout Group Formation (individuals on stack) (20 minutes)
*Group Discussions (45 minutes)
*Group Stack/Presentations (10 minutes per group x 3 groups = 30 minutes)
*Conclusion/Summary

Breakout groups were formed after an opening discussion about what people wanted to talk about. The three breakout groups were:

*Local Issues
*Occupy as Paradigm Shift
*Functional divisions in the movement and occupy boston (i.e. offline/online, onsite/offsite)

Some noted questions/comments that resulted at the end of discussion:

*How does occupy reach into rural areas? Also, what about occupy gardens/farms?
*How to include people whose time is filled with work obligations (i.e. how to occupy time the same way we are currently occupying space)?
*"laboratory space" to describe our ideas discussions.

Two functional issues with discussion format identified by facilitator (Forest) were:

*Breakout groups for the most part lacked facilitation, stack taker, timekeepers, or minute recorders. In the future groups should ideally follow an established process for discussion.

*People who tended to agree seemed to clump together in the smaller groups. Maybe experimenting with starting groups with members randomly assigned and *then* applying law of two feet would be worthwhile? Also, instructing group initiators to make sure their group has someone taking stack?

WG/Strategies/Ideas/Brainstorm

2011-11-17T17:24:28Z

Tfaing:

[Note: why does this page exist? if there is to be such a page, it should be at least organized by category. none of these ideas are developed, and many of them are just selfish desires. the Ideas group needs to take a step back to better determine its structure.]

== list of ideas ==

Add your idea with a* in front of it

*coffee break in the afternoon
*free cigarretees
*what happened online
*can we pass anything? or are we just building our bureaucracy?
*strategic ways to vote with our dollars
*affinity group email alert system to protect the camp, see disc.
*peace song radio call in day, 6/19, see disc.
*big national demo june 19, emancipation day, see disc.
*move most of the camp once a week all winter to symbolic indoor locations, see disc.
*add How We Will Change It word cloud
*move to St. Paul's in the name of Jesus the Healer, see disc.
*Name the camp wind turbine, Cape Wind
*Aim a digeridoo at the Federal Reserve, see disc.
*Camp Protectors Pledge of Resistance, see disc.
*Tea Party Tax Debate Challenge, see disc.
*Pen Pal a Stock Broker, blog, see disc.
*"die in" at Health Insurance Co. annual meeting,see disc.
*24 hour reading of health insurance horror stories, see disc.
*Ranked Choice Voting for this poll
*addressing the Online/Offline divide
*Random Acts of Kindness Working Group
*Long Term Tactics
*Appreciation Board/Ritual to recognize work not violating our leaderless ethic
*Welcoming Committee
*How to see the camp as a tactic in a broader strategy
*how to include the entire community of supporters in decision making processes
*Online/offline divide
*onsite/offsite divide
*How do we improve GAs
*What is the Timeline of commitment?
*What do you need to see in order to see this movement move to the next phase?
*What are they discussing in the Library Meeting?
*Has Wall street heard you yet?
*Who is our audience?
*Making this kid/mom friendly
*How do you say "Fuck You" in a really nice way?
*How do you prevent some drunk/high person from dying in their tent this winter?
*How to involve the concerned but comfortable?
*How do you feel the media is portaying your cause?
*What are your specific views on the free trade agreements?
*How will you know you have accomplished your goal? mission?
*What do you need to see happen?
*Why has the gap between the top income earners and the bottom 20% widened at an ever increasing rate?
**Money in politics and how to get it out
*declarations, position statements, statements of purpose, lists of demands that people have been writing
*Non-leadership leading to small group covert leadership
*Continuing Move your Money with Move your investments
*"Occupy" the vote
*pacifism
*non-violence
*sustainability
*environmentalism
*horizontal democracy
*preferential option for the poor'
*justice
*compassion
*Do we really live in a "Democracy"?
*Communications wg to solidify with other "occupiers"
*Increased self-sufficiency
*bring the troops home now from Afghanistan
*end the drone war
*funds for human needs, not war
*education for all is a right
*universal health care
*jobs for all who are able to work
*tax the corporations, banks, and the top 1%

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'''<span style="font-size:large;">VALUES Data:</span>'''

data of resoponses to the question: "What Values do you feel that we, as Occupy Boston, all share?" that was posed on a white board, was surveyed from someone walking around asking, and a ideas collection box in front of the Ghandi Statue.  Collection occurred around Nov 1st, 2011.

Here is the word cloud that is the ~15% of responses that involved a concept that can be seen as a Value.  NOTE: the other 85% of comments are not in this word cloud:

<br/>[[File:Ideas values raw.png|300x358px|RTENOTITLE]]\

RAW DATA:
<div>'''FROM THE CAMP INTERVIEWS (Eric):'''  </div><div><div>
'''<u>What are the values that we, as Occupy Boston, all share? </u>'''

(below are the responses to this question by campers and people in the camp on 11/5/11 and 11/6/11, not necessarily within the definition of Values)

·         Change.  Everyone wants Change.  Change in society, employment, fixing the nation, taxing the rich

·         Some don’t know how to express it, what they value here

·         Media misreads Occupy Boston,

o   Press sees only the ‘bad eggs.’ 

o   Press is motivated by the negatives. Negative press has political issues. 

o   Not enough positive press from ‘liberal’ papers; the liberal papers are afraid to commit because Occupy Boston is diverse

·         Have to get political-

o   Go after your congressman

o   Do something

o   Sign a petition

o   Empower people to circulate petitions in the community for you

o   Have a platform of 5 issues

o   Be political and harness the power of the people

·         Small is beautiful

·         Return to community values

·         Be neighborly

·         We are angry, we want change

·         We are here, we are present, this our presence, we engage by being here

·         Our presence is making his a rejuvenation of our democracy

·         To rejuvenate the past American apathy

·         We have been stripped of public places.  Private clubs have overtaken our open spaces

·         We are ‘cross-partisan’.  Not one political group can claim us

·         Want lobbying reform; campaign finance reform;

·         Repeal the Citizen-United bill

·         Boycotting of large banks, supporting small banks

·         Get money out of politics

o   Norfaust pledge

·         Laws against monopolies have not been enforced

·         Media has merged into mega-opolies

·         We are the Voice of the People

·         The voice of the people has been silent since Vietnam

·         Just be fair

·         Be fair to your fellow human beings

·         Judge a country by how they treat their poor

·         Create a Transaction Tax on stock trades, etc., to take the volatility out of the stock market

·         Strength in numbers

·         Sustainable community; Proof that it needs to exist and keep growing

·         Inclusive, not exclusive

·         Renewal of patriotism

·         A new definition of patriotism

·         Diverse, but self-sustaining community

·         Occupy is proof that it can be done

·         Care

·         Concern, concern for our country, concern for others

·         Productive

·         Solves problems collectively

·         People are inquisitive, looking for Questions and Answers

·         System is broken

·         Encouragement

·         We need this movement

·         Brings in young people into the political spectrum

·         The young people here are living it

·         Object to the injustice that large wealth is fixed within a small group

·         Patriotism must be redefined as loving humanity through living in your country

·         Shouldn’t have bailed out Wall Street.  That was the rich bailing out the rich, giving trillions to the wealthiest sector who performed the greatest incompetence, while the hard working average citizen struggles under the consequences which they did not cause, and receive no bailout and zero support.

·         Healthcare policy flip-flops and unknowns freeze funds and corporations must hoard to prepare for future

·         Good will has value, good will creates revenue

·         “Occupy” is a spectrum of greivances

·         “Occupy” has become a brand name, but its real face is obscured to the outside world by loud Anarchists and Union opportunists

·         From the outside, it looks like the Occupy movement means “Give me something”

o   But at the same time, Occupy tells the Homeless to “Go away”

·         Too much money drives political elections

·         There seems to be a lack of leadership, there is no individual spokesperson

·         There seems to be a lack of connection to other Occupies

·         Our lack of tight connection to OWS, etc., shows how Grass Roots we all are

·         Mayor Menino says “Civil Disobedience has no place in the modern world”, but we say the opposite

·         Minimize the Achievement Gap in education system

o   Discrepancy between students of color vs. Caucasian and Asian, somewhat related to socio-economic rasons

o   Give equal access to education

o   Evaluate students by state tests alone are not enough, need teacher input

o   Restructure the standardized tests

·         Fairness

·         Democracy and Freedom, although Democracy and Freedom can be at tension with each other

o   Balance the socialist projects with individual liberties

·         Acting from Love and human aesthetics

·         Disappointed that there is money to bailout the banks, but not enough money to help out the common person

·         “Education” should not be judged by the college degree alone

·         Democracy with respect

·         Seeing the experiment here working, and spreading it outwards

·         It’s about pure democracy

·         This (Occupy) is the America that we all grew up believing in. 

·         Corruption of politics has choked the voice of the individual

·         Money speaks now, not people

·         That it costs so much to run an election, the common man cannot be elected to represent his/her peers

·         The awareness is not the endgame, Occupy needs to stimulate actions

·         Occupy needs 3 or 4 hard things to stand for

·         Honest publicly funded, publicly financed campaigns

·         Must overturn the Citizen’s United bill

·         Re-instate the Glas-Steegle Act, to better regulate banks and financial institutions

·         Transaction Tax on Wall Street trades

·         We are all here for similar reasons, but for different reasons.

·         Truth, not just in taxes

·         Correct fundamental inequalities

o   OB is dealing with financial qualities pretty well

·         We should strive to reduce oppression, even if our political goal is something different

·         Financial equality is the microeconomic view; Economic equality is the macroeconomic view

·         Right wing isn’t worth dealing with

·         Shouldn’t demonize conservatives because they disagree; conservatives donate more than liberals to the poor.

 

 

FROM THE WHITEBOARD:  ------------------------

'''<u>What are the values that we, as Occupy Boston, all share? </u>'''

 

·         Respecting ALL people

·         Respectfully demonstrating authentic democracy

·         There’s more to life than money

·         People are not disposable

·         ''Discipuli Scolae Latinae Bostoniensis Dicunt: “OCCUPATE BOSTONIAM!”''

·         I value a society that supports non-violence

·         Pro-Family

·         Self-Knowledge and Self Respect

·         Restore the National Tariff/Import Tax

·         Poverty is not a choice!  (Unfair? Yes, but it’s unsustainable, bound to fail)

·         Have not greed for yourself, but for your country and for this world.

·         The 1% are nothing more than politicians motivated by money and power.  We the people are motivated by Quality, Unity, and Love

·         The 1% are the ruling class rich

·         Ask the good question

·         I also question my own greed

·         Economic Patriotism

·         A non-violent community

·         Spirit Fire

·         Compassion

·         Dignity

·         Public Funding of Public Functions, like Elections

·         Corporations should NOT be allowed to gund political parties

·         Self determination

·         I value a society that values humanity more than $$

·         It is not the ''right'' of “We the people” to peaceably assemble for the redress of grievances, it is our patriotic ''DUTY'' to do so. We are Americans.  We are our countrymen’s keepers, and they are ours. Together we are AmeriCANS, financially and socially and racially; otherwise, we are AmeriCAN’TS. 

·         Oneness

 
</div><div><br/></div></div><div><br/></div><div>'''Comments left in the Occupy Boston Ideas working group'''</div><div>'''box in front of the Ghandi Statue, anwering the same question as above.'''</div><div><br/></div><div>''Comments were taken out before the ideas working group meeting 9:30pm''</div><div>''on Sunday Nov. 6th 2011. Compiled by Andrew''</div><div><br/></div><div><br/></div><div>-       Fill bank mailing envelopes with junk mail and return them – make it</div><div>as heavy as you can</div><div>-       Respect for everyone’s need to have food shelter safety education</div><div>well-being and a say in how their government deploys resources</div><div>-       For the rich to promote economic fairness</div><div>-       Stop corporate power from influencing our government</div><div>-       Earth Care, People Care, Fairshare (The 3 ethics of Permaculture)</div><div>-       Eliminate the power to money in the political process</div><div>-       Non-violence</div><div>-       Justice, Equality, Fairness for all, Importance of Taking a stand</div><div>for these values.  Stand against corporate greed!  Corruption in</div><div>Government.</div><div>-       Can you or will you define “Occupy Boston”? If this term is meant to</div><div>mean the people living, staying and working in Dewey Square we share</div><div>NO COMMON VALUES.  The majority of people here are committed to</div><div>violence.  Don’t believe me?  Ask a person what they will do if</div><div>struck.  Most will promise you “I will strike back”</div><div>-       Equality for all.</div><div>-       Keep the spirit alive. Non-violent. Feed people. Housing and health</div><div>care.  Should be fundamental rights for all people – there is enough</div><div>money in this country to care for all people.  No starving children or</div><div>elderly.</div><div>-       Great Work! This is an awesome Idea Ideas Group</div><div>-       We need to organize more acts of civil disobedience to bring</div><div>attention to the main topic of occupy.  We fight to result our</div><div>democracy from the corporate oligarchy… to rescue our democracy</div><div>against corporatocracy.</div><div>-       Differentiate between short term and long term goals. A) sort term</div><div>job stimulus. B) long-term reduce military as well as other benefits.</div><div>C) accept that changes to social security, Medicare and Medicaid are</div><div>needed. They can be made more progressively paid for rather than</div><div>sacrifice benefit levels and eligibility.  A good planet is hard to</div><div>find!</div><div>-       Non-violence.  Social justice, volunteerism and can-do spirit.</div><div>Standing for something. Individuality combined with unity.</div><div>Non-violent.  Regulate American companies that have moved from</div><div>country. Revolution.  Save our democracy from corporate oligarchs end</div><div>the corporatocracy. Pro-freedom and virtue.  Pro-economic patriotism.</div><div>Pro-family. Anti-corporate corruption. Anti-corporate parasitism.</div><div>Anti-economic treason.</div><div>-       What do you stand for?</div><div>-       This place is a fuckin’ joke homeless & drug addicts only a matter</div><div>of time before mayor shuts down.</div><div>-       Saftey is a joke</div><div>-       The common good should benefit everyone involved.  When we dicide</div><div>the issues we stand for they should be made so that the average</div><div>American can get on board by relating to them.  If we loose sight of</div><div>the goals we set out attempting to accomplish we will fail.  The most</div><div>important thing to tdo is keep communicating.  Especially the lost and</div><div>hopeless who wander in like refugees hoping to finally find content.</div><div>-       We are all in this together.  Keep it up.</div><div>-       look after others as you would look out for yourself.</div><div>-       Unfair?  It is.  But its worse than unfair.  It’s unsustainable.</div><div>Bound to fail.  As it is doing now.  We need a new system.  The only</div><div>thing that will work is social credit.</div><div>-       I would like to say bless all that stand in the face of oppression</div><div>and don’t blink.</div><div>-       We want cahnage ant he end of the monetary system.  We all</div><div>understand the universe is dynamic with no stable state.  We are that</div><div>pendulum.</div><div>-       Here is a chance for people who felt forgotten and marginalized to</div><div>come together and feel that each one of us counts. Boycott big bands.</div><div>Put your money in a safe place instead.</div><div>-       Honesty.  An honest day’s pay for an honest day’s work.  Free</div><div>assembly.  Consensus. Right of every voice to be heard.</div><div>-       That people should be more represented by the government.  That our</div><div>whold environment needs protection and respect.  That we humans are</div><div>not the only beings that count.  That we need to work far more for</div><div>ways to establish peaceful solutions.  Though it may take much effort</div><div>and time.</div><div>-       Having more money does not give you more of a right to be heard.</div><div>Capitolism is not a perfect system.  No system is perfect.  It is our</div><div>responsibility to inject the system with ethics and morality.</div><div>-       To enhance a better life for us all together as one.</div><div>Love/compassion/joy/happiness/oneness.</div><div>-       The essence of America. Community. Saftey. Individuality.</div><div>Neighborliness. Support. Creativity. The common goal of removing</div><div>corporations influsne on government and cive dielide of fascisim.</div><div>Wanting America to be “great” and the “land of opportunity for all,</div><div>not some. Drives ambition.  Resourcefullness.  Willing to listen</div><div>(consensus). Wanting to take back the “American Dream”. Cleanliness.</div><div>Consistensy. Sorry for my somewhat ambiguous terms, America is riddled</div><div>w/ certain prrases and terms of endearment to describe.</div><div>-       Dicksucking</div><div>-       Non-Violence. Suffering. Love.</div><div>-       Draft: A message from Occupy Boston Past: Statement of</div><div>OccupationToday the United States is confronted by a toxic mix of</div><div>financial, social, and environmental catastrophes that demand a</div><div>thorough and immediate solution. The common root of these disasters is</div><div>the domination of our social, economic, and political lives by the</div><div>interests of a financially prosperous minority. The actions of this 1%</div><div>threaten our lives, the lives of all the Earth’s creatures, our</div><div>livelihoods, our liberty, our shared humanity, and our common future.</div><div>In response, we, the General Assembly of Occupy Boston have abandoned</div><div>usual democratic channels and chosen instead direct democracy. The</div><div>corrupt order amidst which we live demands a profound collective</div><div>response. Occupy Boston is that response. Because, the problems of</div><div>economic inequality, unemployment, and crushing debt, are all</div><div>symptomatic of the larger corrupting influence money has had on our</div><div>political and social lives, Because, this influence has impeded</div><div>progress toward a more just and sustainable society, has perpetuated</div><div>crisis at home, war abroad and perverts democratic action, Because,</div><div>the pursuit of the elites has had an even more devastating effect on</div><div>the more vulnerable and less empowered members of our community as</div><div>well as on the ecosystems upon which our species depends, Because,</div><div>this financial minority also own or control, directly or indirectly,</div><div>the media and legal apparatus: we have retaken the commons and</div><div>resurrected direct democracy.   / Present: Statement of PurposeWe the</div><div>people who have occupied Dewey Square, under the name Occupy Boston,</div><div>have done so in order to maintain a place, where all voices are</div><div>welcome for the open discussion of ideas, grievances, and potential</div><div>solutions to the problems apparent in our society. We are and will be</div><div>holding general assemblies where proposals may be brought to the group</div><div>as a whole, to be consented to. We have and will continue to occupy</div><div>this space for the purpose of DEMOCRACY. / Be it resolved that we, the</div><div>General Assembly of Occupy Boston, acting in solidarity with</div><div>occupations across America and with peoples' movements worldwide, do</div><div>hereby declare our opposition to all systems of power that function to</div><div>maintain oppressive and undemocratic systems. We declare that a better</div><div>world is possible, and that it is our right and responsibility to</div><div>begin creating it. / Future: Mission Statement / Our mission is to</div><div>give birth to a just and compassionate body politic that will tread</div><div>lightly upon the Earth. Our mission will be accomplished when these</div><div>goals are met: / 1. The US has a sustainable peace time economy. 2.</div><div>The voices of the 99% are heard and acted upon. 3. All the Earth’s</div><div>ecosystems are healthy. 4. In allocating resources, the US government</div><div>priorities the needs of the environment and the 99% who are not</div><div>wealthy.</div>

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2011-11-17T03:58:48Z

Tfaing: adding meeting notes

== Meeting Times ==

*Meetings have been set for 7pm Wednesdays, and Sunday night 9:30. The active times we have generally had public discussions are Monday nights at 7pm in the GA area and Friday nights at 7pm in the GA area.
*meetings are held across Atlantic Avenue in the Federal Reserve Plaza. As it gets colder we will meet there then go somewhere else, such as South Station.
*[[Ideas working group meeting notes]]

<br/>'''Discussion Wednesday, 16 November'''
<div><br/></div><div>Announcement/Get the word out about Occupy Declaration: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Percent_Declaration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Percent_Declaration]</div><div><br/></div><div>Proposal to create an information card for how to discuss the Occupy movement with families on Thanksgiving.  The information card could give suggestions on how to talk about Occupy, but also remind to collect ideas from family members which can then be brought back to the camp for discussion.</div><div><br/></div><div>Discussion of possibly wording statements so that they are not as inclusive, by using words like "most of us", etc.  Debated whether this is a good strategy, no position was taken.</div><div><br/></div><div>Discussion on the purpose of statements of purpose, and how it can guide its development. Mention that it can act as a guide to how we live responsibly with each other in the camp (internal purpose), and how we may bring people into solidarity with the movement (external), or how it will guide our actions as we move forward (intermal/external).  Also it is noted that most of the good work that is done within Occupy Boston needs no Statement to happen, and that a multitude of different occupy movements have a wide range of different statement sizes, breadth, meaning, or do not have any statements at all.  No position was taken, however it was consented on that if we did draft a potential proposed Values statement, it might mention the internal and external purposes. (Note: google doc of all Occupy statement's movements here: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsPuWV2D8UjB-N5WrmxZM7QxGJIABHON-ya3YtGawx0/edit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsPuWV2D8UjB-N5WrmxZM7QxGJIABHON-ya3YtGawx0/edit])</div><div><br/></div><div>Discussion of what the proposal that we will raise at the facilitation testing of the new GA process on Friday.  We decided that it will be to propose that a values statement to be added to the Statement of Purpose.</div><div><br/></div><div>Discussion of what values to start off the discussion will be (Tess has the list, i forgot to write it down)</div><div><br/></div><div>Decision to set the date of the GA for the real proposal is Tuesday Nov 22.</div><div><br/></div><div>Decision to shelve the discussion of the whitehouse.gov/petition discussion of what petition to create until Sunday's Ideas meeting.</div><div><br/></div><div>Decision for a topic of discussion for an Ideas Public Discussion sometime after the Summit: Discussion of all of the Authors that have drafted Mission Statements, Declarations of Occupation, etc. to offer their ideas to the public and garner feedback in a discussion format.</div>

<br/>'''Discussion Friday, 11 November'''

VALUES that came out of the meeting:

*knowledge
**education
**awareness
**information
**transparency
*unity
*change x2
*respect
**diversity
*making "freedom" bigger
*non-violence x2
*peaceful
*consensus
*horizontal democracy x2
*solidarity
*equality
*fairness
*concern for others x2
*freedom
*positivity
*generosity
*compassion
*sustainability
*honesty
*unity
*cooperation
*mutual aid
*resistance to oppresion
*kindness
*empathy
*dialogue
*civility

<br/>SENTENCES that cam out of the meeting:

*In an effort to create a more just and sustainable socitey, we will strive to embody the values of: inclusivity, honesty, non-violence, comapssion, cooperation, and ecological integrity.
*We seek to foster a cuture of inclusivity, a practice of sustainability, and a spirit of compassion.
*We beleive that in working towards change, we need to pread knowledge while maintainin a unity based on respect

[[File:Ideas values raw.png|300x358px|RTENOTITLE]]\

origional word cloud that was used to start the evening's discussion (word coud data collected from surveying the camp to answer the question "What values do we, as Occupy Boston, all share?"

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2011-11-14T02:28:57Z

Tfaing: a few more values from the picture on my phone of the main white board that Tess was transcribing during the discussion

2011-11-07T20:55:42Z

Tfaing: These are words clouds that were created by analyzing all of the feedback that the Ideas group has received from Occupy Boston from the question: "What are the values that we, as Occupy Boston, all share?"

These are words clouds that were created by analyzing all of the feedback that the Ideas group has received from Occupy Boston from the question: "What are the values that we, as Occupy Boston, all share?"

File:Ideas values raw.png

2011-11-07T20:55:42Z

WG/Strategies/Ideas/28 Oct 2011 Discussion Notes

2011-10-30T21:35:57Z

Tfaing: added a comment that I heard in the public discussion on Friday night.

11-10-28
OB Ideas Public Meeting #1

Topic: How does Occupy Boston preserve it's momentum?

Initial temp check on focusing discussion on urgent tactics and actions in the next 10 days - consensed

Agenda Proposals (not in order of discussion)

Safety

Indoor Space/ Winter Strategies- how to keep the movement going during Winter and Strategies for Winter
*rotate shifts (shift camping)
*Make sure people here are comfortable
*Anarchist Caucus wanted to talk about winterization (link them with working group)
*Mobility
*Indoor sites to build movement: occupy or ask for space
-abandoned border book store
-South Station
-Abandoned schools
-Union buildings

-Outreach
*to other communities
*interfaith outreach
*1st Amendment Legislation

-Donation outreach
*music
*theatre

-Boston/Providence similarity

-More protests
*Student Zombie March (October 31st)
*November 2nd General Strike Solidarity with Oakland
*November 5th Move your Money
*Counter G20 in New York (Nov 5th)
*Flashmob at Boston City Council Elections (November 8)

-Contingency plan (for Winter or if police)

-City council election
*rewarding/punishing those in election

GA proposal
*quorum
*emergency GA

-INDOOR SPACE
*ask, or take over space?
-Commercial retail or privately owned public space
-Research task force created to identify potential indoor spaces (Union outreach, working with Labor Council on finding space, Union Halls as example)
-Warehouses in Somerville, Charlestown, and Canton.
-Public Schools slated for closure.
-Put ad in paper?
-Large general space and decentralized smaller spaces in neighborhoods (some people are in favor of occupying foreclosed homes, others opposed)
-Visibility and Symbolism is important
-Important to maintain Dewey for visibility and symbolism- seconded
-communication for mobility

DECENTRALIZATION
*neighborhood community spaces

Move your money
*en mass carrying signs

Wednesday at seven for move your money

WEDNESDAY
*Oakland solidarity march 5 pm rally

Zombie March monday

Ring around white house on the sixth

SEIU

SAFETY
John Ford's ideas for proposal
-evacuation route
-fire extinguisher boxes plentiful
-no smoking in tents
-all hay must go
-pallets for tents
-signs in to sealable bins overnight
-sanitation working group
-new comers asked to fill bag of trash
-safety protocol clearly demarkated
-safety team rotated constantly
-community asked to help those with drug issues
-all encouraged to participate in working grou
-pa working group(public announcement)
-Greet everyone
-rainbow as safety word

Other Ideas
*Rumor control at info tent
*idea proposed to petition the law to require mortgage companies to file in court to forclose on houses, the purpose being to allow time for discovery to determine whether the mortgage owns the note. This may be pertinent due to recent Mass Supreme court decision stating that Wells Fargo and Bancorp couldn't forclose because they had not secured the loan (see Reuters story [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/18/us-housing-massachusetts-idUSTRE79H5RW20111018 Massachusetts court rejects developer bid in transfer case])

Safety WG Proposal for GA 10/29/11
-fires always being put out
-rotating into safety shifts
-current members train new volunteers
-no being intoxicated
-those found under influence will be asked to step down for day
-Police not wanted for non violent petty crime
-creation of protocol for
-venting helped
-mediation training

Mock Consensus process:
Comments and Questions regarding above proposal

Q-what about two weeks, necessary for participation in safety WG?
A-unanswered
Amendment: Once trained individual can share shifts between small groups.

Q-how do you become part of safety?
A- Go to weekly meetings mentioned in proposal or daily meetings (4pm at safety tent next to medics)

Q- Is there an option for Weekend shifts?
A- After training is complete

Q- How do we limit safety to people who are known and trusted in the community
A- All safety personnel must complete one week training prior to one week shift

Q – What is safety training?
A – Dunno, come to Safety WG meetings to discuss.