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		<title>MHacker: Created page with &quot;''Notes taken by hand, with varying levels of detail, all dialogue is paraphrased -- MH''  &lt;u&gt;'''Introductions'''&lt;/u&gt;  [Daniel is facilitating]  [Agenda items are proposed and pr...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Notes taken by hand, with varying levels of detail, all dialogue is paraphrased -- MH&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Introductions&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;  [Daniel is facilitating]  [Agenda items are proposed and pr...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Notes taken by hand, with varying levels of detail, all dialogue is paraphrased -- MH''&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;'''Introductions'''&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[Daniel is facilitating]&lt;br /&gt;
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[Agenda items are proposed and prioritized by straw poll]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;'''Announcements'''&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Public speaking course, tomorrow (November 21) at 8PM in Dewey Square&lt;br /&gt;
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Non-violence workshop, tomorrow (November 21) from 6 - 8PM, led by Cathy Hoffman&lt;br /&gt;
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First Priority Process Proposal, tonight (November 20), Non-Violence Working Group Proposal&lt;br /&gt;
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[Jorge explains PPP requirements]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;'''Main agenda'''&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Reporting back from the Friday night Consensus Process workshop'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Greg: spirit and design of new process is good, though not necessarily a more efficient process -- this is not necessarily a problem&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel: perhaps elements of this process, if not whole process can be brought into the current consensus model&lt;br /&gt;
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[Daniel discusses means of altering concerns and amendments portion of his proposal]&lt;br /&gt;
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[Jorge concurs that it isn't more efficient]&lt;br /&gt;
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[Sue, Bobby, Suzanne ask questions about how recent GAs have gone&lt;br /&gt;
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*number of attendees&lt;br /&gt;
*quorum&lt;br /&gt;
*number of facilitators used&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Exporting facilitation practices to other occupations'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Sue from Occupy Salem: I've tried to get facilitators to show up or help from OB&lt;br /&gt;
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G: I would be interested in helping&lt;br /&gt;
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B: Are there electronic, online resources we could use for things at BU, etc.? We have a pretty consistent attendance at our meetings of about 15 people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Noah: Here at OB we have good small-group models but bigger groups are hairier&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Anna's proposals [see email to FWG]'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Announcing the proposals agenda the night before (by midnight)&lt;br /&gt;
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G: I support this, let's also put it in the Info Tent, a calendar on the wiki would be useful, in conjunction with Priority Process Proposal&lt;br /&gt;
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Alex: This could be put on current OB calendar&lt;br /&gt;
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[Greg gets clarification from Daniel that Anna suggests only that group proposing and a summary of the proposal are posted]&lt;br /&gt;
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N: For this, we need calendar access and dedicated whiteboard&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Onsite campers are hard-pressed to access phone or internet quickly and thus pursue a proposal immediately&lt;br /&gt;
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J: Some great proposals have been written right before a GA&lt;br /&gt;
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A: Some poeple have trouble holding onto an idea for very long, we shouldn't exclude them&lt;br /&gt;
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D: Only the bare-bones description is necessary&lt;br /&gt;
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N: This can work in tandem with the Priority Process Proposal&lt;br /&gt;
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[Disruption: &amp;quot;FIFO LIFO - First In First Out, Last In Last Out&amp;quot; the group is told by someone passing through]&lt;br /&gt;
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N: What happens to bumped proposals?&lt;br /&gt;
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G: Before Priority Proposals [?]&lt;br /&gt;
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D: What about stack online? This is just putting stack online ahead of time.&lt;br /&gt;
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B: This is just a way to provide more info about the General Assembly beforehand&lt;br /&gt;
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General question discussed: Is it really a benefit for the GA if someone can decide whether or not he or she wants to show up based on interest in the proposals?&lt;br /&gt;
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Secondary question: Does it lead to &amp;quot;gaming&amp;quot; the system?&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposal: To request that proposals be added to an agenda whiteboard, and that these proposals be&lt;br /&gt;
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#sent to facilitation by 8AM same day of GA&lt;br /&gt;
#include contact info of proposers&lt;br /&gt;
#include summary of content of proposal&lt;br /&gt;
#include copy of proposal if available&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposals will be posted on whiteboard and online&lt;br /&gt;
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G: What about priority?&lt;br /&gt;
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All: Just like stack&lt;br /&gt;
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D: Let's make a proposals stack whiteboard&lt;br /&gt;
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G: We need both whiteboard and a digital stack&lt;br /&gt;
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[General discussion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Amended proposal: Contacts onsite will be made available to put things on whiteboard; at 8AM an onsite member of Facilitation copies whiteboard content to online , public location; Stack Aide that night will begin with whiteboard stack; PPProposals have priority; then proposals on the stack that have rolled over from the previous evening&lt;br /&gt;
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[Lots of discussion on how to make this work, do we like whiteboards or paper, who will handle onsite whiteboard, do we need to police it, how do keep a place online to add proposals to stack, how would we manage the priority of both online and whiteboard additions simultaneously?]&lt;br /&gt;
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[Proposal is offered for consensus, is blocked]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Roles for the night's GA:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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[Noah chosen as facilitator, Pattie is stack aide]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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