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	Hi everyone. I've seen this group called both the "Facilitators Working Group" and the "Facilitation Working Group". Which is preferred? I would pick the latter, since the group is not just about facilitators, but deals with the whole facilitation process. And of course, participation in the group is not limited to facilitators, but open to everyone. If there's agreement about this, we can move this page to "Facilitation" instead of "Facilitators". [[User:Tim Smith\|Tim Smith]] 23:53, 26 October 2011 (EDT)		Hi everyone. I've seen this group called both the "Facilitators Working Group" and the "Facilitation Working Group". Which is preferred? I would pick the latter, since the group is not just about facilitators, but deals with the whole facilitation process. And of course, participation in the group is not limited to facilitators, but open to everyone. If there's agreement about this, we can move this page to "Facilitation" instead of "Facilitators". [[User:Tim Smith\|Tim Smith]] 23:53, 26 October 2011 (EDT)

			:I brought this up at yesterday's (sparsely attended) facilitation meeting and people seemed to agree, so I'll go ahead with it. [[User:Tim Smith\|Tim Smith]] 19:03, 7 November 2011 (EST)

	== Process Question and Possible Transparency Issue ==		== Process Question and Possible Transparency Issue ==

Gsmurphy at 04:18, 7 November 2011

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	==~~Proposal for GA Proposal Submission~~ - consented by FWG, on 10/20/11==		== PRIORITY PROCESS PROPOSAL - consented by FWG, on 10/20/11<br/> ==
	:[[~~user~~:~~gsmurphy~~]] Thursday, 6:25 pm
			:[[User:Gsmurphy]] Thursday, 6:25 pm

	This proposal will be presented to a public working group, for consensus, before being presented at a GA:		This proposal will be presented to a public working group, for consensus, before being presented at a GA:

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	The Facilitators Working Group proposes the following process for preparing proposals to be taken through consensus at a General Assembly:		The Facilitators Working Group proposes the following process for preparing proposals to be taken through consensus at a General Assembly:

	1. First Steps (at least one week prior to presenting at GA):		1. First Steps (at least one week prior to presenting at GA): ○ post the proposal on the OccupyBoston wiki and make physical copies available at camp; ○ schedule and post online, the date of the GA at which the proposal will be presented; ○ do outreach to all Working Groups to let them know you have a proposal in the pipeline and would like their input; ○ schedule and post online, the date of a public working group meeting, at which the proposal will be reviewed and taken through the consensus process. (Individuals can host meetings, they simply become a working group once the meeting begins.) 2. Announce at the earliest possible evening GA: ○ that you are preparing a proposal, ○ the subject of the proposal and that it is posted online, ○ the date, time and location of the public working group meeting, ○ and the date the proposal will be presented to the GA. 3. Conduct a full consensus Working Group meeting: ○ Document all objections and amendments, ○ Explain how objections were addressed, (Objections must remain on a public list so that if the proposal cannot address them, and is still consented to, the community knows that there are outstanding concerns/objections to address.) ○ Explain whether or why not amendments were adopted. 4. If the proposal has passed consensus in the public working group meeting, present the proposal at the pre-scheduled GA. 5. If the proposal did not reach consensus at the public working group meeting, post that result online and announce at the next available GA that the proposal will not be presented on the previously scheduled date.
	○ post the proposal on the OccupyBoston wiki and make physical copies available at camp;
	○ schedule and post online, the date of the GA at which the proposal will be presented;		==== re: Proposal for GA Proposal Submission - consented by FWG, on 10/20/11 ====
	○ do outreach to all Working Groups to let them know you have a proposal in the pipeline and would like their input;
	○ schedule and post online, the date of a public working group meeting, at which the proposal will be reviewed and taken through the consensus process. (Individuals can host meetings, they simply become a working group once the meeting begins.)		::[[User:Anonyta]] Today 1:24 am
	2. Announce at the earliest possible evening GA:
	○ that you are preparing a proposal,
	○ the subject of the proposal and that it is posted online,
	○ the date, time and location of the public working group meeting,
	○ and the date the proposal will be presented to the GA.
	3. Conduct a full consensus Working Group meeting:
	○ Document all objections and amendments,
	○ Explain how objections were addressed,
	(Objections must remain on a public list so that if the proposal cannot address them, and is still consented to, the community knows that there are outstanding concerns/objections to address.)
	○ Explain whether or why not amendments were adopted.
	4. If the proposal has passed consensus in the public working group meeting, present the proposal at the pre-scheduled GA.
	5. If the proposal did not reach consensus at the public working group meeting, post that result online and announce at the next available GA that the proposal will not be presented on the previously scheduled date.
	====re: Proposal for GA Proposal Submission - consented by FWG, on 10/20/11====
	::[[~~user~~:~~anonyta~~]] Today 1:24 am
	Hi all,		Hi all,

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	The proposal: that agendas (of proposals! not announcements) for GA nights should be decided on the night before, in a small, consensus-based discussion between the individuals and WG reps presenting proposals. On Friday night that small discussion will decide the proposals agenda for both Saturday and Sunday. The idea is for presenters to figure out together which proposals need to be discussed most immediately, versus those that can be discussed by a smaller group or even moved to the next GA or re-worked. A facilitator can facilitate the discussion and gather the proposals and put them on the wiki or on occupybostonglobe.com, so that commuters as well as campers know what proposals will be discussed, and in what order.		The proposal: that agendas (of proposals! not announcements) for GA nights should be decided on the night before, in a small, consensus-based discussion between the individuals and WG reps presenting proposals. On Friday night that small discussion will decide the proposals agenda for both Saturday and Sunday. The idea is for presenters to figure out together which proposals need to be discussed most immediately, versus those that can be discussed by a smaller group or even moved to the next GA or re-worked. A facilitator can facilitate the discussion and gather the proposals and put them on the wiki or on occupybostonglobe.com, so that commuters as well as campers know what proposals will be discussed, and in what order.

	Talking Points		Talking Points -- I offer to do this, and recruit some facilitators for it, since I am free on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays more than on Tuesdays and Thursdays (in fact, I teach on those nights). --This face-to-face consensus decision would eliminate the problem of internet access, but still allow for some level of predictability and preparation for everybody. --It would also, ideally, highlight the proposals that are not yet worked out enough, in a consensus environment. --after the Transparency meeting and these various conversations with campers, I realized that Allison's proposal for proposals, which we passed in the previous FWG meeting, relies too heavily on the internet. It will guarantee that the WGs whose members are mostly working off-site are always given priority, over those who are on-site. So, for example, groups or individuals that are talking about "Message" will be given priority, over those that are organizing events that often come up within the week, or those that need money within the week. At the moment, we don't have the kind of stability that would allow WGs to prepare proposals for a week - especially with winter coming, it seems that things are much more in flux for groups that organize events. --Ironically, in a lot of those conversations, people were basically saying that they wanted us Facilitators to use more of our common sense, to vet proposals in order for GAs to be bearable. For the good of the community and etc.
	-- I offer to do this, and recruit some facilitators for it, since I am free on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays more than on Tuesdays and Thursdays (in fact, I teach on those nights).
	--This face-to-face consensus decision would eliminate the problem of internet access, but still allow for some level of predictability and preparation for everybody.
	--It would also, ideally, highlight the proposals that are not yet worked out enough, in a consensus environment.
	--after the Transparency meeting and these various conversations with campers, I realized that Allison's proposal for proposals, which we passed in the previous FWG meeting, relies too heavily on the internet. It will guarantee that the WGs whose members are mostly working off-site are always given priority, over those who are on-site. So, for example, groups or individuals that are talking about "Message" will be given priority, over those that are organizing events that often come up within the week, or those that need money within the week. At the moment, we don't have the kind of stability that would allow WGs to prepare proposals for a week - especially with winter coming, it seems that things are much more in flux for groups that organize events.
	--Ironically, in a lot of those conversations, people were basically saying that they wanted us Facilitators to use more of our common sense, to vet proposals in order for GAs to be bearable. For the good of the community and etc.

	Well, do let me know what you think! Allison, what do you think about the modification that this makes to your proposal??		Well, do let me know what you think! Allison, what do you think about the modification that this makes to your proposal??
	====re: Proposal for GA Proposal Submission - consented by FWG, on 10/20/11====
	::[[~~user~~:~~pcovery~~]] Today 4:44 am		==== re: Proposal for GA Proposal Submission - consented by FWG, on 10/20/11 ====
	I welcome more organization, especially in a way that knits together on-site and off-site participants. Thanks for your stamina in facilitating!
			::[[User:Pcovery]] Today 4:44 am

			I welcome more organization, especially in a way that knits together on-site and off-site participants. Thanks for your stamina in facilitating!

	==CORRECTED GA Schedule Consented Proposal - 10/21/11==		==CORRECTED GA Schedule Consented Proposal - 10/21/11==

Gsmurphy at 11:50, 30 October 2011

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AriaLittlhous: /* Process Question and Possible Transparency Issue */ new section

2011-10-27T21:28:42Z

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	Hi everyone. I've seen this group called both the "Facilitators Working Group" and the "Facilitation Working Group". Which is preferred? I would pick the latter, since the group is not just about facilitators, but deals with the whole facilitation process. And of course, participation in the group is not limited to facilitators, but open to everyone. If there's agreement about this, we can move this page to "Facilitation" instead of "Facilitators". [[User:Tim Smith\|Tim Smith]] 23:53, 26 October 2011 (EDT)		Hi everyone. I've seen this group called both the "Facilitators Working Group" and the "Facilitation Working Group". Which is preferred? I would pick the latter, since the group is not just about facilitators, but deals with the whole facilitation process. And of course, participation in the group is not limited to facilitators, but open to everyone. If there's agreement about this, we can move this page to "Facilitation" instead of "Facilitators". [[User:Tim Smith\|Tim Smith]] 23:53, 26 October 2011 (EDT)

			== Process Question and Possible Transparency Issue ==

			Hi,

			Forgive me if this is a bit jumbled. I'm know what I want to ask, but I'm not sure how to phrase it. I heard once that there was a way to ask for consensus on a proposal "as it is", that is w/o letting a hundred people do things like correct your grammar...but with considering comments of substance? Is that clear? I ask because while it welcomes comments of substance, the process of getting 100 people to agree on the grammar (generally speaking) of a Message Statement seems self defeating.

			I await your response, unfortunately, see below, I dont' know how I'm going to get it, since I am not getting wiki alerts. I know many of you are on the ideas list, but this request was not in that email, see below.

			This brings up the related transparency issue of not being able to get the Monday 7pm SPP meeting on the calendar.

			Feel free to respond via the spp googe group...I guess there's no new list serve for SPP either....????

			occupy-boston-spp@googlegroups.com

			or to my personal email: aria@littlhous.net


			SPP Update: Briefly,

			I have not been able to get the Monday SPP meeting on the calendar. Is this a transparency issue?

			Message Statement Underdevelopment & Community Input

			I sent an email to George Lee (liaison to Occupy Hood (?) and extended community/) asking him/them to comment on the Message Statement currently being developed. Ditto via a shared link to the wiki space of Anti-Oppression. I hope to speak to Darren from Mass Uniting later today/soon. Terra has been talking to people on site.

			http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/Road_Map

			Comments on the substance of the Message Statement Roadmap Mashup are welcome in the discussion section.

			I/we continue to have communication difficulties related to the wiki/google group migration. I am not getting update alerts from the wiki.

			Trajectory: I've suggested two possible paths 1. Asking Ideas to use it for the basis of one of its forums 2. Presenting directly or semi directly to GA...that is after a public meeting. I really don't know which is going to happen. At least one member of SPP is suggesting starting the (as yet unapproved??) Priority Proposal Process tomorrow night.

			My thoughts: I do think that once whatever happens to this Message Statement (Mashup Roadmap), that afterwards SPP will either completely dissolve or merge with Ideas, but I really don't know.

			If anyone wants to speak to me real-time--please do! I plan to attend the Sunday, 2pm Arts and Culture meeting and of course the 7pm Monday SPP meeting, when I will probably use some company and dinner.

			D.

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			== Name of group ==

			Hi everyone. I've seen this group called both the "Facilitators Working Group" and the "Facilitation Working Group". Which is preferred? I would pick the latter, since the group is not just about facilitators, but deals with the whole facilitation process. And of course, participation in the group is not limited to facilitators, but open to everyone. If there's agreement about this, we can move this page to "Facilitation" instead of "Facilitators". [[User:Tim Smith\|Tim Smith]] 23:53, 26 October 2011 (EDT)

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	The FWG offers its services to all Working Groups who wish to be trained in a consensus process, and, if needed, can help Working Groups with the facilitation of their first scheduled public meeting.		The FWG offers its services to all Working Groups who wish to be trained in a consensus process, and, if needed, can help Working Groups with the facilitation of their first scheduled public meeting.

			== Priority Process Proposal as amended at FWG public meeting ==

			<p dir="ltr" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt" id="internal-source-marker_0.8193422147807119"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:bold; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Priority Proposal Process</span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">(Draft - updated to reflect amendments made during public working group meeting )</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">(</span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:underline; vertical-align:baseline">please note and use the </span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:bold; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:underline; vertical-align:baseline">Comment function</span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:underline; vertical-align:baseline">, at the upper right. </span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:italic; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline"></span></p><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline"></span><br/><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">For Occupy Boston proposals to: reflect more voices and broader ownership; strive for an inclusive process; allow the Assembly to be more informed about and better prepared for hearing and voting on proposals; to help Occupy Boston participants plan to attend specific General Assemblies so they can vote on proposals of interest; help those making proposals gain practice presenting; and to better the likelihood of passage; the Facilitator Working Group recommends a Priority Proposal process. </span><br/><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline"></span><br/><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">We strongly encourage everyone to make proposals, particularly those from historically oppressed communities. We think this process helps to ensure that your voice will be heard.</span><br/><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline"></span><br/><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Please note that emergency proposals, e.g., from Safety, Medics, Legal, etc., will continue to get immediate attention.</span><br/><br/><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">We propose the following steps to achieve priority status for your proposal:</span>
			#<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; background-color:transparent; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Decide if you want your proposal to receive priority status at a General Assembly.<br/>Anyone, whether a group or an individual, can make proposals and gain priority status.<br/>Pre-announced, pre-posted, pre-scheduled proposals which have had publicly announced meetings and passed consensus at a public meeting, will be considered prior to other proposals at General Assemblies.<br/>Working Groups and individuals may still bring any proposals to the GA, without submitting to this new process, they simply will not have priority status on the agenda.</span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline"></span>
			#<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">First Steps (at least 4 days prior to presenting at GA):</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">post the proposal on the OccupyBoston wiki and make physical copies available at the camp library;</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">schedule and post online, the date of the GA at which the proposal will be presented;</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">do outreach to all WGs to let them know you have a proposal in the pipeline and would like their input;</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">schedule and post online, with 48 hours notice, the date of a public meeting (which must be at least 48 hours prior to the scheduled GA), at which the proposal will be reviewed and taken through the consensus process. (Individuals can host meetings)<br/>(On non-GA evenings, facilitators will be available at the 5pm Facilitators Working Group meeting to assist with all of these steps, including typing your proposal and helping you write, to the best of our ability.)</span>
			#<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Announce at the earliest possible evening GA, </span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">that you are preparing a proposal,</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">the subject of the proposal and that it is posted online,</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">the date of the public meeting,</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">and the date the proposal will be presented to the GA;</span>
			#<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Conduct a full consensus WG meeting where you</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">state the need the proposal is addressing;</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">first assess whether the proposal requires consensus at a General Assembly;</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Document all objections and amendments.</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Explain how objections were addressed<br/>(Objections must remain on a public list so that, if the proposal cannot address them and is still consented to, the community knows that there are outstanding concerns/objections to address.)</span>
			##<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Explain whether or why not amendments were adopted.</span>
			#<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">If the proposal has passed consensus in the public meeting, present at the pre-scheduled GA;</span>
			#<span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">If the proposal did not reach consensus at the public working group meeting, post that result online and announce at the next available GA that the proposal will not be presented on the previously scheduled date OR that you will still bring the proposal to the GA, but it will be given priority status.</span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#242424; background-color:#ffffff; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline"></span>

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