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		<title>OneKarma: moved Facilitators Working Group - November 1 to WG/Facilitation/Minutes/1 Nov 2011</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Facilitators_Working_Group_-_November_1&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Facilitators Working Group - November 1&quot;&gt;Facilitators Working Group - November 1&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/WG/Facilitation/Minutes/1_Nov_2011&quot; title=&quot;WG/Facilitation/Minutes/1 Nov 2011&quot;&gt;WG/Facilitation/Minutes/1 Nov 2011&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>MHacker: Created page with &quot;senior at harvard studying sock  esp claims about them, the claims that are made, anyhow member understand them  consensus in particular  &amp;nbsp;  greg -- on Finance  &amp;nbsp;  anno...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;senior at harvard studying sock  esp claims about them, the claims that are made, anyhow member understand them  consensus in particular     greg -- on Finance     anno...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;senior at harvard studying sock&lt;br /&gt;
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esp claims about them, the claims that are made, anyhow member understand them&lt;br /&gt;
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consensus in particular&lt;br /&gt;
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greg -- on Finance&lt;br /&gt;
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announcement on Paul/Sydney; mediation has happened, there has been an agreement and press release&lt;br /&gt;
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he did what we wanted,&lt;br /&gt;
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1.closed acct&lt;br /&gt;
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2.dissolved DBA&lt;br /&gt;
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3.mailed IRS to cancel the employee number&lt;br /&gt;
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now we&amp;#039;re announcing; he may want to speak?&lt;br /&gt;
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agenda&lt;br /&gt;
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discuss paul&lt;br /&gt;
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back to agenda items:&lt;br /&gt;
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discuss paul&lt;br /&gt;
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proposal: reverse order of group discussion&lt;br /&gt;
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our proposal for tonight&lt;br /&gt;
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picking facilitation roles&lt;br /&gt;
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rituals&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing paul:&lt;br /&gt;
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the announcement will be one of the first things on the agenda&lt;br /&gt;
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mike: concern that Paul is on the premises?&lt;br /&gt;
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will: indiv stack?&lt;br /&gt;
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daniel: tried that last time….&lt;br /&gt;
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jorge: wg stack/indiv stack?&lt;br /&gt;
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daniel: tried that last time…&lt;br /&gt;
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ren: you should have check ins to minimize the impact of this one person…&lt;br /&gt;
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will: that was a problem last time&lt;br /&gt;
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CT: consider the metafacilitator; it&amp;#039;s not app for a GA to have to address this&lt;br /&gt;
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allison describes rev attempts to de escalate&lt;br /&gt;
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daniel: metafacilitator?&lt;br /&gt;
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will: waste of time to talk about this&lt;br /&gt;
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h2: don&amp;#039;t forget to address their concerns!&lt;br /&gt;
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*mike sums up*&lt;br /&gt;
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allison: why are they even announcing?&lt;br /&gt;
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daniel: they…they just are.&lt;br /&gt;
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mike: the problem is when process is overwhelmed by reactions.&lt;br /&gt;
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so what do we do?&lt;br /&gt;
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CT: couple options; we could set up an advocate or committee of some kind&lt;br /&gt;
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or say &amp;quot;it should be taken up at the next public finance committee&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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mike: so, we would let them announce w/o pre-emption and then say that the finance committee can have a public meeting later to deal with this…&lt;br /&gt;
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daniel: facilitators should remind ppl that they should disc finance issues at their mtg&lt;br /&gt;
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finance should be sure to announce their mtg&lt;br /&gt;
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mike: okay, so they&amp;#039;re set. next!&lt;br /&gt;
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proposal: reverse clarifying Q&amp;#039;s and group discussions&lt;br /&gt;
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mike clarifies the proposal&lt;br /&gt;
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CT: remember, GA is for content, and this mtg is for process.&lt;br /&gt;
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h2: is there an evaluation at the end?&lt;br /&gt;
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will: we need feeling checks!&lt;br /&gt;
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mike: we would…in warmer weather…&lt;br /&gt;
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allison: we needs rituals&lt;br /&gt;
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--&amp;gt;back to consensus; the proposal is PASSED!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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next: discussing our proposal for tonight&lt;br /&gt;
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allison: we used to address concerns to ppl before going on;&lt;br /&gt;
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propose that we do that before amendments!&lt;br /&gt;
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mike: so if you give a proposal and I have a concern, you would turn around and list them?&lt;br /&gt;
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allison: yes but first we would collect them into a list and recap them&lt;br /&gt;
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so proposal, groups, conc, sup, recap concerns, THEN amendments?&lt;br /&gt;
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discussion about reciting concerns: the proposer will recap concerns&lt;br /&gt;
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at least tonight, the FWG proposer will recap concerns before amendments&lt;br /&gt;
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proposals PASSED!&lt;br /&gt;
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picking roles:&lt;br /&gt;
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Co-Facilitators:&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Matt/Ethan H&lt;br /&gt;
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Floor Aide:&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Melinda, Jorge&lt;br /&gt;
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Timekeeper:&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Crowdmember&lt;br /&gt;
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Process Aide&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Mike/Jorge&lt;br /&gt;
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Stack:&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; H2&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
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SIte/Vibe:&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Eden&lt;br /&gt;
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Clerk:&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Me if Needed&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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