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		<title>Srevilak: /* mailman footer (ticket 85) */</title>
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		<updated>2012-06-11T01:06:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;mailman footer (ticket 85)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:06, 10 June 2012&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l16&quot;&gt;Line 16:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;unsubscribe link.  Regardless, this has been a source of confusion and&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;unsubscribe link.  Regardless, this has been a source of confusion and&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;concern to people who've gotten these messages.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;concern to people who've gotten these messages.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;For an example of this, see&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We can change footers (per mailing list).  For example, bank-action&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We can change footers (per mailing list).  For example, bank-action&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Srevilak</name></author>
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		<title>Srevilak: Created page with &quot;= OBIT Meeting Notes (10 June 2012)=  Attending: Eden, Kendra, Steve.  == Boston Pride ==  We began the meeting by looking at pictures from yesterday's Pride parade, via Mass Pir...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2012-06-11T01:04:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;= OBIT Meeting Notes (10 June 2012)=  Attending: Eden, Kendra, Steve.  == Boston Pride ==  We began the meeting by looking at pictures from yesterday&amp;#039;s Pride parade, via Mass Pir...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;= OBIT Meeting Notes (10 June 2012)=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Attending: Eden, Kendra, Steve.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Boston Pride ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We began the meeting by looking at pictures from yesterday's Pride&lt;br /&gt;
parade, via Mass Pirates twitter feed:&lt;br /&gt;
https://twitter.com/#!/masspirates.  Cute wagon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== mailman footer (ticket 85) ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People have been getting &amp;quot;someone attempted to unsubscribe you from&lt;br /&gt;
MMM&amp;quot; messages, where MMM is a @lists.occupyboston.org mailing list.&lt;br /&gt;
We suspect that these come from person A clicking on Person B's&lt;br /&gt;
unsubscribe link.  Regardless, this has been a source of confusion and&lt;br /&gt;
concern to people who've gotten these messages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We can change footers (per mailing list).  For example, bank-action&lt;br /&gt;
removed user-specific unsubscribe URLs from their message footer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Would it be worth removing user-specific unsub links from some of the&lt;br /&gt;
high-traffic mailing lists, like community_forum?  Or, should we leave&lt;br /&gt;
it to individual list owners?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TODO: Can change we the text of unsub confirmation messages?  (i.e.,&lt;br /&gt;
to include language like &amp;quot;don't panic -- someone may have accidentally&lt;br /&gt;
clicked on your unsubscribe link by mistake).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== email setup tickets (74, 82, 86) ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Someone with MF/PL control panel access will need to look at these.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== wordpress dev -&amp;gt; production promotion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Discussion tabled for now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== forums/v2dev ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Forums may be a replacement for mailing lists, in some cases.  Mailing&lt;br /&gt;
lists are good where discussions happen among a relatively fixed set&lt;br /&gt;
of participants.  Forums are more topic based; it's easier for them to&lt;br /&gt;
accomodate a changing list of participants.  Provide both options, and&lt;br /&gt;
let people vote with their feet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Community forum: might be more valuable if archives were open to the&lt;br /&gt;
public?  Let's ask the community forum, and see what they think.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Discussion about promoting v2dev.groups.occupyboston.org -&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
groups.occupyoccupyboston.org.  We need another development iteration&lt;br /&gt;
(perhaps including the migration of existing groups.occupyboston.org&lt;br /&gt;
content).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the past, we've talked about adding an educational component to&lt;br /&gt;
OBIT; teaching people how to use our different web tools, how to set&lt;br /&gt;
up thunderbird, how to set up PGP, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We've had two educational sessions in the past: one for wiki, and one&lt;br /&gt;
for for mail encryption.  Zero to no attendance at both.  Would better&lt;br /&gt;
promotion have produced better attendance?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should we start doing regular monthly workshops, and promoting the&lt;br /&gt;
heck out of them?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternate proposal: we have two obit meetings/week.  What about making&lt;br /&gt;
one of them a hands-on/training session.  Agenda would be driven by&lt;br /&gt;
who showed up, and what they asked for help with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should we put OBIT meetings on the OB Calendar?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Srevilak</name></author>
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