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-Safety
Safety


-Indoor Space/ Winter Strategies- how to keep the movement going during Winter and Strategies for Winter
Indoor Space/ Winter Strategies- how to keep the movement going during Winter and Strategies for Winter
        rotate shifts (shift camping)
*rotate shifts (shift camping)
        Make sure people here are comfortable
*Make sure people here are comfortable
        Anarchist Caucus wanted to talk about winterization (link them with working group)
*Anarchist Caucus wanted to talk about winterization (link them with working group)      
        Mobility
*Mobility
        Indoor sites to build movement: occupy or ask for space?
*Indoor sites to build movement: occupy or ask for space
  abandoned border book store
-abandoned border book store
  South Station
-South Station
  Abandoned schools
-Abandoned schools
    Union buildings
-Union buildings
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-Outreach
-Outreach
to other communities
*to other communities
interfaith outreach
*interfaith outreach
1st Amendment Legislation
*1st Amendment Legislation


-Donation outreach
-Donation outreach
music
*music
theatre
*theatre


-Boston/Providence similarity
-Boston/Providence similarity


-More protests
-More protests
Student Zombie March (October 31st)
*Student Zombie March (October 31st)
November 2nd General Strike Solidarity with Oakland
*November 2nd General Strike Solidarity with Oakland
November 5th Move your Money
*November 5th Move your Money
Counter G20 in New York (Nov 5th)
*Counter G20 in New York (Nov 5th)
Flashmob at Boston City Council Elections (November 8)
*Flashmob at Boston City Council Elections (November 8)


-Contingency plan (for Winter or if police)
-Contingency plan (for Winter or if police)


-City council election
-City council election
rewarding/punishing those in election
*rewarding/punishing those in election




GA proposal
GA proposal
        quorum
*quorum
        emergency GA  
*emergency GA  


national day of action


INDOOR SPACE
-INDOOR SPACE
    ask, or take over space?
*ask, or take over space?
Commercial retail or privately owned public space
-Commercial retail or privately owned public space
                Research task force created to identify potential indoor spaces
-Research task force created to identify potential indoor spaces (Union outreach, working with Labor Council on finding space, Union Halls as example)
(Union outreach, working with Labor Council on finding space, Union Halls as example)
-Warehouses in Somerville, Charlestown, and Canton.
Warehouses in Somerville, Charlestown, and Canton.
-Public Schools slated for closure.  
Public Schools slated for closure.  
-Put ad in paper?
Put ad in paper?
-Large general space and decentralized smaller spaces in neighborhoods (some people are in favor of occupying foreclosed homes, others opposed)
    Large general space and decentralized smaller spaces in neighborhoods
-Visibility and Symbolism is important
(some people are in favor of occupying foreclosed homes, others opposed)
-Important to maintain Dewey for visibility and symbolism- seconded
    Visibility and Symbolism is important
-communication for mobility
Important to maintain Dewey for visibility and symbolism- seconded
communication for mobility


DECENTRALIZATION
DECENTRALIZATION
      neighborhood community spaces
*neighborhood community spaces
      
      
Move your money
Move your money
      en mass carrying signs
*en mass carrying signs


Wednesday at seven for move your money
Wednesday at seven for move your money


WEDNESDAY
WEDNESDAY
      Oakland  solidarity march 5 pm rally
*Oakland  solidarity march 5 pm rally
 
Zombie March monday
Zombie March monday


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SAFETY
SAFETY
    John Ford's ideas for proposal  
John Ford's ideas for proposal  
    list
-evacuation route  
evacuation route  
-fire extinguisher boxes plentiful
fire extinguisher boxes plentiful
-no smoking in tents
no smoking in tents
-all hay must go
all hay must go
-pallets for tents
pallets for tents
-signs  in to sealable bins overnight
signs  in to sealable bins overnight
-sanitation working group
sanitation working group
-new comers asked to fill bag of trash
new comers asked to fill bag of trash
-safety protocol clearly demarkated
safety protocol clearly demarkated
  -safety team rotated constantly
  safety team rotated constantly
-community asked to help those with drug issues
community asked to help those with drug issues
-all encouraged to participate in working grou
all encouraged to participate in working grou
-pa working group(public announcement)
pa working group(public announcement)
-Greet everyone
Greet everyone
-rainbow as safety word
rainbow as safety word
Other Ideas
Other Ideas
Rumor control at info tent
*Rumor control at info tent
*idea proposed to petition the law to require mortgage companies to file in court to forclose on houses,  the purpose being to allow time for discovery to determine whether the mortgage owns the note.  This may be pertinent due to recent Mass Supreme court decision stating that Wells Fargo and Bancorp couldn't forclose because they had not secured the loan (see Reuters story [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/18/us-housing-massachusetts-idUSTRE79H5RW20111018 Massachusetts court rejects developer bid in transfer case])


Safety WG Proposal for GA 10/29/11
Safety WG Proposal for GA 10/29/11
fires always being put out
-fires always being put out
rotating into safety shifts
-rotating into safety shifts
current members train new volunteers
-current members train new volunteers
no being intoxicated
-no being intoxicated
those found under influence will be asked to step down for day
-those found under influence will be asked to step down for day
Police not wanted for non violent petty crime
-Police not wanted for non violent petty crime
creation of protocol for  
-creation of protocol for  
venting helped
-venting helped
mediation training
-mediation training
 
Mock Consensus process:     
Mock Consensus process:     
Comments and Questions regarding above proposal
Comments and Questions regarding above proposal
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Q- How do we limit safety to people who are known and trusted in the community
Q- How do we limit safety to people who are known and trusted in the community
A- All safety personnel must complete one week training prior to one week shift
A- All safety personnel must complete one week training prior to one week shift


Q – What is safety training?
Q – What is safety training?
A – Dunno, come to Safety WG meetings to discuss.
A – Dunno, come to Safety WG meetings to discuss.

Latest revision as of 16:47, 9 November 2011

11-10-28 OB Ideas Public Meeting #1

Topic: How does Occupy Boston preserve it's momentum?

Initial temp check on focusing discussion on urgent tactics and actions in the next 10 days - consensed

Agenda Proposals (not in order of discussion)


Safety

Indoor Space/ Winter Strategies- how to keep the movement going during Winter and Strategies for Winter

  • rotate shifts (shift camping)
  • Make sure people here are comfortable
  • Anarchist Caucus wanted to talk about winterization (link them with working group)
  • Mobility
  • Indoor sites to build movement: occupy or ask for space

-abandoned border book store -South Station -Abandoned schools -Union buildings



-Outreach

  • to other communities
  • interfaith outreach
  • 1st Amendment Legislation

-Donation outreach

  • music
  • theatre

-Boston/Providence similarity

-More protests

  • Student Zombie March (October 31st)
  • November 2nd General Strike Solidarity with Oakland
  • November 5th Move your Money
  • Counter G20 in New York (Nov 5th)
  • Flashmob at Boston City Council Elections (November 8)

-Contingency plan (for Winter or if police)

-City council election

  • rewarding/punishing those in election


GA proposal

  • quorum
  • emergency GA


-INDOOR SPACE

  • ask, or take over space?

-Commercial retail or privately owned public space -Research task force created to identify potential indoor spaces (Union outreach, working with Labor Council on finding space, Union Halls as example) -Warehouses in Somerville, Charlestown, and Canton. -Public Schools slated for closure. -Put ad in paper? -Large general space and decentralized smaller spaces in neighborhoods (some people are in favor of occupying foreclosed homes, others opposed) -Visibility and Symbolism is important -Important to maintain Dewey for visibility and symbolism- seconded -communication for mobility

DECENTRALIZATION

  • neighborhood community spaces

Move your money

  • en mass carrying signs

Wednesday at seven for move your money

WEDNESDAY

  • Oakland solidarity march 5 pm rally

Zombie March monday

Ring around white house on the sixth

SEIU

SAFETY John Ford's ideas for proposal -evacuation route -fire extinguisher boxes plentiful -no smoking in tents -all hay must go -pallets for tents -signs in to sealable bins overnight -sanitation working group -new comers asked to fill bag of trash -safety protocol clearly demarkated

	-safety team rotated constantly

-community asked to help those with drug issues -all encouraged to participate in working grou -pa working group(public announcement) -Greet everyone -rainbow as safety word

Other Ideas

  • Rumor control at info tent
  • idea proposed to petition the law to require mortgage companies to file in court to forclose on houses, the purpose being to allow time for discovery to determine whether the mortgage owns the note. This may be pertinent due to recent Mass Supreme court decision stating that Wells Fargo and Bancorp couldn't forclose because they had not secured the loan (see Reuters story Massachusetts court rejects developer bid in transfer case)

Safety WG Proposal for GA 10/29/11 -fires always being put out -rotating into safety shifts -current members train new volunteers -no being intoxicated -those found under influence will be asked to step down for day -Police not wanted for non violent petty crime -creation of protocol for -venting helped -mediation training

Mock Consensus process: Comments and Questions regarding above proposal

Q-what about two weeks, necessary for participation in safety WG? A-unanswered Amendment: Once trained individual can share shifts between small groups.

Q-how do you become part of safety? A- Go to weekly meetings mentioned in proposal or daily meetings (4pm at safety tent next to medics)

Q- Is there an option for Weekend shifts? A- After training is complete

Q- How do we limit safety to people who are known and trusted in the community A- All safety personnel must complete one week training prior to one week shift

Q – What is safety training? A – Dunno, come to Safety WG meetings to discuss.