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<p><span>These are the notes from the Occupy Boston General Assembly</span></p> | <p><span>These are the notes from the Occupy Boston General Assembly</span></p> | ||
<p><span>these are taken to the best of the note takers ability (Ethan H.)</span></p> | <p><span>these are taken to the best of the note takers ability (Ethan H.)</span></p> | ||
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<p><span> confusion about getting funds </span></p> | <p><span> confusion about getting funds </span></p> | ||
<p><span> we have made it easier 857 417 7872</span></p> | <p><span> we have made it easier 857 417 7872</span></p> | ||
<p><span> email a new address to get funds </span><span> | <p><span> email a new address to get funds </span><span>[mailto:obwg.fundingrequests@gmail.com obwg.fundingrequests@gmail.com]</span></p> | ||
<p><span> to make process easier </span></p> | <p><span> to make process easier </span></p> | ||
<p><span> does not skip the filling out a form process </span></p> | <p><span> does not skip the filling out a form process </span></p> | ||
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<p><span>want a list of what each wg is working on </span></p> | <p><span>want a list of what each wg is working on </span></p> | ||
<p><span>make it really public on web site and with community </span></p> | <p><span>make it really public on web site and with community </span></p> | ||
<p><span>works at </span><span> | <p><span>works at </span><span>[mailto:rita@brandice.edu rita@brandice.edu]</span><span> phone (857) 204-5653</span></p> | ||
<p><span>internal working doccument and sharing and educating </span></p> | <p><span>internal working doccument and sharing and educating </span></p> | ||
<p><span>mic check </span></p> | <p><span>mic check </span></p> | ||
<p><span>site called </span><span> | <p><span>site called </span><span>[http://groups.occupyboston.org groups.occupyboston.org]</span></p> | ||
<p><span>every group has or should have a space on that site where we can tell everyone what we are doing </span></p> | <p><span>every group has or should have a space on that site where we can tell everyone what we are doing </span></p> | ||
<p><span>mic check</span></p> | <p><span>mic check</span></p> | ||
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<p><span>7pm wednesday nights at south station </span></p> | <p><span>7pm wednesday nights at south station </span></p> | ||
<p><span>workshop sat at 3 meet at ghandi</span></p> | <p><span>workshop sat at 3 meet at ghandi</span></p> | ||
<p><span> | <p><span>[mailto:writers@occupyboston.org writers@occupyboston.org]</span></p> | ||
<p><span>**non violence working group </span></p> | <p><span>**non violence working group </span></p> | ||
<p><span>buenos noches</span></p> | <p><span>buenos noches</span></p> | ||
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<p><span>have been discussing drafting a document and proposal for the homeless to be given to gov. patrick and mayor menino</span></p> | <p><span>have been discussing drafting a document and proposal for the homeless to be given to gov. patrick and mayor menino</span></p> | ||
<p><span>want the housless to come to the meeting </span></p> | <p><span>want the housless to come to the meeting </span></p> | ||
<p><span> | <p><span>[mailto:cherie.l.king@gmail.com cherie.l.king@gmail.com]</span><span> PLEASE EMAIL FOR MORE INFO</span></p> | ||
<p><span>**faith and spirituality </span></p> | <p><span>**faith and spirituality </span></p> | ||
<p><span>remind everyone at the top of main street there is a tent avialable for everyone to </span></p> | <p><span>remind everyone at the top of main street there is a tent avialable for everyone to </span></p> | ||
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<p><span>10pm </span></p> | <p><span>10pm </span></p> | ||
<p><span>12pm cosmic zen session </span></p> | <p><span>12pm cosmic zen session </span></p> | ||
<p><span> | <p><span>[mailto:spiritual@occupyboston.org spiritual@occupyboston.org]</span></p> | ||
<p><span>**acts of random kindness</span></p> | <p><span>**acts of random kindness</span></p> | ||
<p><span>people from occupy boston will go and do random acts of kindness </span></p> | <p><span>people from occupy boston will go and do random acts of kindness </span></p> | ||
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<p><span>we can do something little for them</span></p> | <p><span>we can do something little for them</span></p> | ||
<p><span>if you’re interested find Alex </span></p> | <p><span>if you’re interested find Alex </span></p> | ||
<p><span> | <p><span>[mailto:occupythemindboston@yahoo.com occupythemindboston@yahoo.com]</span><span> </span></p> | ||
<p><span>**Library and Safety eric</span></p> | <p><span>**Library and Safety eric</span></p> | ||
<p><span>working on de escalation method </span></p> | <p><span>working on de escalation method </span></p> | ||
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<p><span>proposal by the ideas working group </span></p> | <p><span>proposal by the ideas working group </span></p> | ||
<p><span>this monday november 28th Ideas working group will be meeting to discuss </span></p> | <p><span>this monday november 28th Ideas working group will be meeting to discuss </span></p> | ||
<p><span> | <p><span>[http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/ideas_group_values_data wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/ideas_group_values_data]</span></p> | ||
<p><span>proposal by the ideas working group </span></p> | <p><span>proposal by the ideas working group </span></p> | ||
<p><span>questions regading the words left out and also why justice is not in the group.</span></p> | <p><span>questions regading the words left out and also why justice is not in the group.</span></p> | ||
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<p><span>two sers of values missing: anit-opression, racial justice and gender justice; comm=unity history of strength and resistence. stories in boston must be honored here. </span></p> | <p><span>two sers of values missing: anit-opression, racial justice and gender justice; comm=unity history of strength and resistence. stories in boston must be honored here. </span></p> | ||
<p><span>proposer answers concerns: this list is meant to be a living document approved by the GA as a primer to take this back and build the document on the list. Outreach to opressed groups was not done as much as it should have been. This list reflects idess of a lot of people. List is a condensing multiple ways of expressing our values. Certain words were grabbed. Just proposing words that might be useful. </span></p> | <p><span>proposer answers concerns: this list is meant to be a living document approved by the GA as a primer to take this back and build the document on the list. Outreach to opressed groups was not done as much as it should have been. This list reflects idess of a lot of people. List is a condensing multiple ways of expressing our values. Certain words were grabbed. Just proposing words that might be useful. </span></p> | ||
<p><span>GA interrupted by camper</span></p> | <p><span>GA interrupted by camper</span></p> | ||
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Revision as of 11:26, 8 December 2011
These are the notes from the Occupy Boston General Assembly
these are taken to the best of the note takers ability (Ethan H.)
they are not a direct transcript, where things could not be heard or understood dash marks are used (--)
7:41 85 people in attendance
introductions of roles
welcome to occupy boston
going over of hand signs
announcements:
**facilitators accountability working group
confusion about getting funds
we have made it easier 857 417 7872
email a new address to get funds obwg.fundingrequests@gmail.com
to make process easier
does not skip the filling out a form process
question and answer we can not call 24/7
person named bruce is on call 8am-6pm works in the area
**part two to FAWG announcement
some members have been sued by paul carnes and cidney cheryll
there is a flyer circulating from paul and cidney that is anti F.A.W.G.
these persons will try to
next meeting 6pm wednesday in south station
**outreach working group
all the good work that the working groups are doing
they are doing things two fold
needs mission and vision from working groups
needs actions from working groups
going to make a working doccument of accompolishements
to understand what each other are doing
“was blown away by how good we are”
this is needed for court! very important
don’t want a list of working groups
want a list of what each wg is working on
make it really public on web site and with community
works at rita@brandice.edu phone (857) 204-5653
internal working doccument and sharing and educating
mic check
site called groups.occupyboston.org
every group has or should have a space on that site where we can tell everyone what we are doing
mic check
on the wiki working groups have posted some extra things
i also suggest that you send an email to all working groups requesting this
care and comfort: Zoe
ensures or attempts to ensure the relative care and comfort for the activists involved in the movement
develope a place to relax
legal Ben
one of the attourneys representing OB
**Update**
temp restraining order was obtained further hearing on december 1st
mediation has not gone anywhere
the city said no to tents they must go
that was the long and short of it
they did come forward they showed up and did what court wanted
we don’t know what the mediatior will tell the judge but we look reasonable infront of the judge
we say tyhat the statute delegating authority to the greenway is unconstutional
for the sake of argument it’s protected speech-- the proctected speech is being here-- there is no ample alternative--
second announcement
had brief discussion about what we may have
one live wittness
5 affadavids
worried about giving out our legal strategie
judge asked for photos
submitted on december 1st
tuesday at noon is the deadline for submitting things
recognizing that this is the model for how society should work
we passed a well thought out proposal last week----
affadavids last sunday in legal tent
we may be dropping occupy boston as a plantif and have just individuals
**media
occupy boston sunday 2pm to 5pm
develope comprehensive media proposal (?)
occupy sacramento sends out press releases every day
we need to bring public opinion back
two large flower beds are being moved tomorrow morning on wednesday about 8 oclock
we have the food tent!!!
it has been felt and touched woo woo
within the week we will have on site
***writers caucus Kevin
7pm wednesday nights at south station
workshop sat at 3 meet at ghandi
**non violence working group
buenos noches
good evening
mi nombre Jorge
this friday non violence workshop with john....
in the quaker tradition
10am till 12 in fed plaza
meet at ghandi and walk to south station
in the event of a camp shut down
on the day after the raid or shutdown
if there have been arrests
we will meet 815 at the brook new martin court house
to show solidarity with them during their areignment
7pm at the boston common band stand
hold general assembly
what steps we will take follow
**signs
WE NEED HELP AT THE SIGN TENT!
person was out of town for a week and things were stolen
*food
is the relation between people
we have a wonderful management structure
but the dishes aren’t getting done
WE HAVE DIVISION OF LABOR PROBLEMS
you’re not too good to do dishes
if one has a dish scrape it off first before placing it in the bin
if it is placed into the water the water spoils faster
please help and please follow the rules
***campers ga
proposal for tomorrow about how the camp is structured wednesday at 11am
***Facilitation
we are having a GA on thursday on thanksgiving
on that day we will decide on what to be talked about
it could be an open stack for things we are thankful for
turn up if you’re around!!
show your support!
** sherry the houseless and allies comunity working group
wants this working group
monday wed friday 6pm south station
have been discussing drafting a document and proposal for the homeless to be given to gov. patrick and mayor menino
want the housless to come to the meeting
cherie.l.king@gmail.com PLEASE EMAIL FOR MORE INFO
**faith and spirituality
remind everyone at the top of main street there is a tent avialable for everyone to
relax and stay rooted in love
if you have anythin gyou want to teach of share let us know
10pm
12pm cosmic zen session
**acts of random kindness
people from occupy boston will go and do random acts of kindness
some people have jobs and famalies and can’t get away
we can do something little for them
if you’re interested find Alex
**Library and Safety eric
working on de escalation method
one on one method
solidarity from oakland and uc berkley !!!!
have been shot at and have perminant hearing loss from the events
at our ga that we learned that egypt has shown solidarity with them
tuition raised 89% within the UC system
***tod from info tent will be showing solidarity with philly as he travels there in the coming week
****occupy worster has been given a place to stay -- occupy LA received an offer to decamp -- 10,000 feet of office space a farm and housing for the homeless
meeting in copley square at 1pm december 3rd
there is a planing meeting this meeting 26 west street at 5 pm second floor
**spirituality
things
moight be awarre that we are having some problems
so -- thee problems involve issues with the food tent -- evictions -- and the broader comversation about racism and sexism -- they have been having a detrimental effect on the community-- many of the people are standing in front of you are white (talking about the large group that has assembled on the stage)
many cases these broader conversations have spiraled out of controll -- i don’t know if this is the forum to address them-- we need to not let them happen in private
mic check
there are clear issues -- of racist conversations happening in our comunity -- we are hurting each other -- we are hurting ourselves -- we have the potential to take these things-- groups of anti racist white groups-- of people of color-- have been talking over and over but it wil take us to iunderstand --- this is pivotal to our work -- this is not dividing out work-- this is our hope as groups of individuals --that we van be accountable to those most affected by systems of white supremicy-- that these people will take a look at how thios comes out ---in our personal relationships---it iw sithout doubt-- white supremicy---is a part of all the other types of supremicy that we need to talk about ----
mic check
are wr going to have an open and honest discussion around
tonight about an hour ago i talked to jamahl craqford
he expressed to me that he had hoped we would discussed
if we want to adress it here we need to address it here and with concern for those people
---everyone here taking accountability for yourselves
if we choose a time to have this conversation within the next 7 days will you come
*temp check most in agreement**
i think it’s fantastic that we have decided to talk about this
the important thing is that if we want december 3rd to be succesful we need to tlak about this asap
i want to propose that we have this discussion tonight
they’re goijg to let you know what is going on
hi gues i’m courtney from outreach community alot of people here know about the racial tension that has been happenng
there have been some issues here at camp
women of color have felt uncomfortable
emails have been sent that are inappropriate
white allies need to speak up about this
they are here standing as revolutionaries
if you have racial tensions that needs to be talked about
on t
my name is mec
i have been asked to speak from my heart
i may cry
i still lnow what i;m talking about
anyone who believes that talking about race willl divide us --is mistaken
those divisions came in with us in this movement
i’m really honselty want to do that
i want to give everything
are you with me ?? (responce eys)
we are a communoity that resembles the world
before we can hange or liberate it
we have to awknolege that opression has always defeated every revolutionary movement
we are not exempt from that
we carry the aspirations to change this world
we carry thie (things) that most impacts marganalized groups
alos effects white people --internalized white supremacy keeps us from ourselves
i won’t use mic check
not seeing color will make the problem go away?
not seeing color is a form of denial
if i act like i don’t see that this brother is black and beautiful
and likely to go to prison
then i am denied----i don’t want you to act like i’m not a lesbian
i want you to treat me no different because of it
who i am as a person is different than who i am as a person
if we just act like we’re smooth when we see black people that will make it ok
need to make a distinction between old fashioned bigotry and the things that are institutionalized in society
if a duck is a duck then call it a duck
we have not been able to learn how to call it a duck
sometimes my intent doess not match our impact
we hear people that make claims that racism going on
then the backlash is that OOOOOH NO IT’S NOT!
there is arrogance in that
white people trying to tell people that it’s not going on
what i want to do is try to have conversations about how we perpetuate racism without meaning to----
the structures and systems (need to make sure that they are not) maintaining the status quo
i’ can we please hear from people of color equal to white alli voices ----are you sure? because we've got some shit to say--- ,y brothers and sisters and other folks here do not have any issue with it --- brothers we stand here tonight as allies ---allies don't mean that we are here only to help when we look at the founding of our nation ---people came together they saw needs--to solve needs we got instititions--those institutions were created by people who look like me
it is the most difficult culture to see---not something we do as individuals
--it’s not about an interpersonal peice--what i see happening here--those same systems are being created here in subtle
please stay tuned to the next few days
*we are finished with announcements 9:04pm
announcement
it’s going to rain this evening be aware of that
going over hand signals
chris brings proposal to ga through the --- working group
reading of the proposal ---
the idea of right now is to try to get a concensus --
we have to have a city council sponsopr--- that will take a little time --
Q: could you clarify the relationship between menino and the city council
A menino is separate from the city council this is an appeal to the city council
Q who do you have in mind for a city councelor
A we need to get concensus on this proposal then we will think about who can sponsor it
thinking about the who seems non productive
POINTS OF INFORMATION
appeal for all people present at the GA to be involved
Don’t be scurrred
point of information
the language in this proposal has gone through camp to many individuals and working groups
it is a relatively short proposal given all the things that are included
People are discussing now...
more of the factions that occupy boston is representing aren’t represented here
Concern: this is a little bit of POI and a little bit of concern-- the legal team did not approve edit or revise this doccument -- the legal support team of occupyboston has no position on this (proposal)
call for strong concerns or objections
now moving on to statements of support
SS: even if this fails we will find out who is a supporter and who is not
SS: i support this-- i see it as a part of our diversity of tactics--this one seems worthwile to me--
SS: this is not a statement of support of dissagreement-- what i do know is that the image of occupy boston within a lot of people in city hall is that occupy boston is not representative of their communities and that needs to be addressed
SS i think that this is an imperfect doccument--but it is so good that it puts us in a position--doing all things that will ----show respect for city counelors---i think we should just pass it
SS: i am a resident of the city of boston i just voted for the city council members---i support this --- if you need residents who support this -- and to go ------i will support this and go
SS: the first time i aw this purposal i said dear god no-- because that objection has not been brought i want to bring it--i thiink that a diversity of tactics means just that 0 supproting this purposal -- does in no way compromises those people who are concerned with working with the state
asking for amendments
A: i purpose that we do a what is it called a survey and collect signatures from boston residents who support this purposal *called a petition*
A someone on twitter wanted underemployment to be added
the proposers are going to get a chance to re write their proposal
hearing from medical
5 stethiscopes $75
ear thermometer needed $38
pulse ox (gives a pulse and blood oxygen level)
other items noted
$211.57 including shipping
second thing
some of our vests did not come in and we will need to re order the vests
Clarifying questions:
CC what is a pulse ox
it takes the blood ox level and give a pulse
CC can we not just get more covers
when we first started we had 6 stethiscopes and they have gone down to one
we will have a sign in check out list for the new stethiscopes
proposal is the same as when it was read however not taking in 30 more dollars to cover possible shipping and handling charges and the rest will go back to FAWG
re stating the proposal brought by Chris and Outreach
proposal goes through a second process with no new amendments
proposal passes!
Go on ot the wiki
email occupy boston outreach group about how to get involved
Now up we have a winterization proposal
Please save the boxes of joe!
This was proposed two weeks ago but there was not quorum
For one thousand dollars to build the tiny house on wheels
we have gotten 1000 from firedog lake to help build these
the iron workers and carpenters unions are involved with building these
they are built on bicycle trailers so they can be eaisly moved
want to make an appeal for this 1000 grant that would be matched
there is a build out date on the 29th
up to 1000 to build 8-10 trailers monies to be refunded with the proof of reciepts
taking clarifying questions
CC can you make it for more than one person
yes depends on how cozy
CC are you conc
CC are you concerned about BPD stopping you from them from coming in
or if they confiscate them
Yes there is some risk but they are mobile and the risk is low. If there is some reason we have to leave we can take them with
if we do it all at once that will be best
CC do we know of any liscence or building codes that prevent this kind of st
CC have we gotten ahold of critical mass to see if they are interested in being involved with bringing them in
Yes we have thought of that
POINTS OF INFORMATION
POI The houses are structurally sound they are ---they look rather comfortable --i think it would servet he camp very well
CC? are they ventelated and safe to sleep in
I have slept in them and did not feel dizzy but they may be inproved
STRONG CONCERNS OR OBJECTIONS
Concern the cioty will use this as a quote unquote safety concern if they are not fire proof or ventelated to say that we are trying to build houses here
Concern I have a concern that may be unfounded given that I came in halfway into the conversation--what we are approaching in the next couple of weeks having to deal with the injunction --- have we clarified that with the lawyers yet ---about constructing and bringing in those beautiful smalll houses --
Response - i have not but will talk to a lawyer about this
STATEMENTS OF SUPPORT
SS I think these houses can provide a good strategy---we an take these to another spot and build occupations around the city
SS i am going to piggy back--little houses work --amazing gettaway supplies--occupy everywhere until we meet at the common
SS i am building one for myself
SS i think this could bennifit occupy boston and everywhere else as a model=--- this is amazing
SS george washington your firrst president said “you will do whatever you want you” you want to camp here,,, you camp here he was elected by 100% only to be president
SS the little house on the greenway it writes itself
AMENDMENTS
I would suggest that you write in the proposal that you will find a way to fairly distribute these houses and how to get them into there
A i agree with what he said and I have an ideas. those who want one should help build one
A we should provide malliable skimatics to campers so that they can source their own materials so that campers can build their own materials for free
A i suggest we come up with an awesome name that does not refer to them as houses
A If we are giving halt the money from our communal pot then we should figure out a way to hare them for communal housing to those who want to stay a couple nights
A i would say we should research a way to properly ventelate the homes
A I suggest occubagos (kind of like winnebagos?)
A please hear this as the hurmor that i intend to share what color are you thinking? i think we should paint them multi color
RESTATING
i propose up to 1000 dollars to be funded to build to augment the 1000 dollars
to increase the number of occubagos between 16-20
i am not the czar of occubegos
the group here is funding them and should decide who gets them
2-4 should be set aside for guest houses
design improvements will be included will be taking design improvements
it will be doccumented as a how to guide made avialable in the library
how to distribute the ones now
include that the winterizing group will discuss how to distribute them
probably on saturday IMPUT WANTED/NEEDED
CLARIFYING QUESTIONS
CC I know we’re not supposed to use wood is there wood involved
These will be premade items and will probably pass the concern of wood being brought in
and yes I will talk to the lawyer
POINTS OF INFORMATION
POI Technically acording to the city we aren’t even allowed to be here
STRONG CONCERNS OR OBJECTIONS
STATEMENTS OF SUPPORT
this is awesome
ARE THERE ANY BLOCKS
Now moving on
thank you to the ideas working group
PROPOSAL PASSES!
note we are 40 people in attendence
proposal by the ideas working group
this monday november 28th Ideas working group will be meeting to discuss
wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/ideas_group_values_data
proposal by the ideas working group
questions regading the words left out and also why justice is not in the group.
concerns about key values that other groups hold are not include. groups have been struggling to have their values heard - this list could alienate them.
two sers of values missing: anit-opression, racial justice and gender justice; comm=unity history of strength and resistence. stories in boston must be honored here.
proposer answers concerns: this list is meant to be a living document approved by the GA as a primer to take this back and build the document on the list. Outreach to opressed groups was not done as much as it should have been. This list reflects idess of a lot of people. List is a condensing multiple ways of expressing our values. Certain words were grabbed. Just proposing words that might be useful.
GA interrupted by camper
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