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Boilerplate Request

(Sent to LIST@ and LIST-owner@)

Subject: Status of LIST mailing list?

Hello LIST,

We (OBIT) are in the process of doing some house keeping on our mailing lists. Specifically, we're trying to figure out which lists are still being used, and which can be retired (aka publicly archived [1] and deleted).

Are people still using this list? If yes, then just say so, and we'll leave it as-is.

On the other hand, if this list is no longer used, then please let us know so that we can archive and delete it.

Thanks in advance.

[1] The archive location is http://archive.occupyboston.org/mailing-lists/

In Progress - Batch 4

tactical

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate

townhall

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate

trolls

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate

tv

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate
  • 12/24/2014 Andrew Shelton: You can go ahead and get rid of this one, it hasn't been used in a *while*
  • 12/24/2014 Delete

uuworkinggroup

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate

virtual-policy

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate

vision

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate

whattooccupynext

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate

winter

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate
  • 12/24/2014 Richard Kerver: The Winter list has not been used since the winter of 2011 and the shut-down of Dewey. It'd be good to archive it in some manner for the future.
  • 12/24/2014 Delete

writers

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate

In Progress - Batch 3

issuesresearch

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval

laboroutreach

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved subscription request.
  • 9/25/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 9/26/2013 Russ Davis: I would delete it. Russ

live

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/21/2013 Rene: "It's about time. I wish it was more active here. Probably should get closed up. Thanks."
  • 4/22/2013 will archive and delete in a few days, unless I hear otherwise
  • 4/22/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 9/25/2013 Sent boilerplate

media-strategy

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/21/2013 Eli: Can be archived
  • 4/22/2013 will do this in a few days, unless I hear otherwise
  • 4/22/2013 attempted to subscribe.
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password

ob-logistics

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved subscription request
  • 9/25/2013 Sent boilerplate.


To Delete

Done

a4national

  • 2/17/2013 Sent Boilerplate
  • 2/24/2013 Attempted to subscribe to list. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 4/13/2013 Reset admin password. Approved subscription.
  • 4/13/2013 Sent boilerplate. Last significant traffic was April 2012.
  • 4/14/2013 Had a nice conversation with Alberta from Oakland, re: mailing lists that discuss transit issues.
  • 4/20/2013 srevilak: "I'll archive and delete the list in a few days, unless I hear otherwise."
  • 4/28/2013 Archived and deleted

alec

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/24/2013 Attempted to subscribe to list. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 4/13/2013 Reset admin password. Approved subscription.
  • 4/13/2013 No members, and no archived messages
  • 4/13/2013 Preserved (empty) archive. deleted

arts

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate. Awaits moderator approval.
  • Cat Mead says list is still used. Keep.

bank

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/24/2013 Attempted to subscribe to list. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 4/13/2013 Reset admin password. Approved subscription. No messages since Feb 2012
  • 4/13/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 No response to initial boilerplate, which gives me the impression that the list is abandoned.
  • 4/20/2013 srevilak: "will archive messages and delete the list, unless I hear otherwise"
  • 4/28/2013 Archived and deleted

bank-action

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/17/2013 List hasn't seen much traffic in a while. Linda wants to retain the archives. Others want to do future bank actions. Keep.

blog

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate. This generates an autoresponder message:
Blog@lists.occupyboston.org is an internal list for Occupy Boston's Media working group. If you'd like to get in touch with us, please email us at OccupyBostonMedia@gmail.com.
  • 2/18/2013 Sent boilerplate to OccupyBostonMedia@gmail.com
  • 2/18/2013 Farhad: "This list was never used. Thanks!"
  • 2/18/2013 disabled
  • 4/11/2013 deleted

breakboa

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/17/2013 Response from Ariel "I'm pretty sure this is not being used. Rarely ever was."
  • 2/18/2013 Ariel was the original list owner. disabled
  • 4/11/2013 submitted subscription request (to preserve whatever archives there were); pending moderator approval
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 9/25/2013 Sent boilerplate.

calendar

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • Media autoresponder message comes back.
  • 2/17/2013 This mailing list receives form submissions from http://www.occupyboston.org/calendar-event-submission-form/. Sent boilerplate again, using the same "From" address that the calendar form would use.
  • 2/17/2013 Greg Murphy: still in use. Keep

casa-announce

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/19/2013 Monica: still used for a couple of announcements/month. Keep.
  • 2/20/2013 Monica says they're using arts@lists.occupyboston.org, not casa-announce@lists.occupyboston.org. disabled
  • 4/11/2013 Sent subscription request; awaiting moderator approval
  • 4/11/2013 Monica: "Yes, definitely, go ahead and delete." Monica tells me the list was never used, so there are no archives to preserve.
  • 4/11/2013 List deleted

celly

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate. Held for moderation.
  • 2/18/2013 Eli: "the mailing list is no longer in use. Feel free to archive"
  • 2/18/2013 disabled
  • 4/11/2013 Sent subscription request (to preserve whatever archives there were); awaiting moderator approval
  • 5/6/2013 Subscription request approved.
  • 5/6/2013 Preserved archives. deleted

citizensresolution

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/24/2013 Attempted to subscribe to list. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. No messages since March 2012
  • 4/13/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 No responses about list status
  • 4/20/2013 srevilak: "In a few days, I'll make an archive of messages sent to citizensresolution and delete the mailing list. Unless I hear otherwise."
  • 4/21/2013 Eli: can be archived
  • 4/22/2013 Will archive, delete in a few days.
  • 4/28/2013 Archived and deleted

citizensunited

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate. Awaits moderator approval
  • 2/18/2013 Still used, per Helini, Terra, and a bunch of others. Keep.

climate-action

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/17/2013 Nina Moliver says list is still being used. Keep.
  • 2/18/2013 Kathryn, Aryt, and a bunch of others responded "still in use". Popular list.

community_forum

  • 2/17/2013. Community forum is still pretty active. Keep.

consensus

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/24/2013 Attempted to subscribe to list. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved subscription request. No messages since July 2012
  • 4/13/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/13/2013 Greg Murphy: "I have not seen this list used in a very long time."
  • 4/13/2013 Terra: "no idea what this list is even for. is it part of facilitation?"
  • 4/13/2013 Greg Murphy: "no, though a buncha FWG folks gravitated to the mtgs . . . it was a study group attempt to understand consensus . . . the thinking being that if an understanding could be developed, maybe OB could actually start using consensus . . ."
  • 4/20/2013 srevilak: "It sounds like no one is using this list. I'll archive and delete it in a few days, unless someone requests otherwise."
  • 4/20/2013 terra: "I feel like the facilitation list covers it."
  • 4/28/2013 Archived and deleted

decolonize

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/17/2013 Greg Murphy: "still very much in use". Keep

direct-action-announce

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate. Awaits moderator approval.
  • 2/19/2013 cykros: low-volume, but still used for announcements. Keep

direct_dem

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 2/24/2013 Attempted to subscribe to list. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved subscription request. Some subscribers. No archived messages.
  • 4/13/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/13/2013 Joan: "Don't care about the list (not one of mine)"
  • 4/13/2013 Kendra: "I don't even remember signing up for this list. I think it is safe to assume that it is inactive, I never get anything from it."
  • 4/13/2013 Terra: "i'm here. but don't use it. how many people are on it?"
  • 4/13/2013 Siobhan Baron: "We are no longer using this list."
  • 4/14/2013 srevilak: will remove in a few days if no one objects in the interim.
  • 4/20/2013 Archived and deleted

energy

  • 2/17/2013 Sent boilerplate. Interesting. obit-support seems to be on the energy list.
  • 2/24/2013 Attempted to subscribe to list. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 2/25/2013 Dana: "I think it should be retired and put to bed.". disabled
  • 4/10/2013 Archived and deleted

inreach

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Boilerplate message held for moderation.
  • 4/22/2013 attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 9/25/2013 42 members. Fair collection of archives.
  • 9/25/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 9/26/2013 Bil: Not used in a year at least.
  • 9/26/2013 Terra: i haven't used it in a long time, mainly because outside of the OB "almuni" that I'm alreayd in contact with, i dont' get any response on these lists. the community forum gets me some help once in a while. but alas...so much is defunct. that being said, what's the cost of leaving it? i mean what if we all of a sudden get started again? so much of the infrastructure is in place, if it doesn't cost anything, why not leave it?
  • 9/26/2013 Aria: haven't seen anything on it forever
  • 9/26/2013 Keep.

interoccupy

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Autoresponder: "Sorry, only the site administrator can post to this list."
  • 4/22/2013 Attempted to subscribe. succeeded
  • 4/22/2013 Last messages: March 2012
  • 4/22/2013 Sent boilerplate. Received same autoresponder message
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 9/25/2013 Two members, one of which is me. This list can go.
  • 11/1/2014 Archived and deleted

jobs

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Succeeded
  • 4/22/2013 Two messages in April 2012. That's all.
  • 4/22/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 Rene: "Not only is this list dead, it never got started. There's probably 4 subscribers."
  • 4/22/2013 terra: "go for it. people are using the community forum"
  • 4/22/2013 Retire in a few days, if there are no objections
  • 4/28/2013 Archived and deleted

legal

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Autoresponder: "this list is now inactive. you will not receive a response."
  • 4/20/2013 Drake: Had wanted to delete the mailing list a while ago, but wasn't sure how to do so.
  • 4/20/2013 Deleted

library

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Heather McCann: "If it's no trouble, please leave the list for a while longer."
  • 4/20/2013 Keep

madpride

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 9/25/2013 No members. No archives. This list can go.
  • 11/1/2014 Archived and deleted

maydaystrike

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Succeeded
  • 4/22/2013 Empty archive
  • 4/22/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 9/25/2013 One subscriber (me). No archives. This list can go.
  • 11/1/2014 Archived and deleted

media-discuss

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 terra: "This is a huge list, and if any large action starts up, I'd like to keep it intact. Thank you...".
  • 4/20/2013 Deb Butler: "This list continues to be used though not heavily, and serves a function, IMHO."
  • 4/20/2013 Keep

media-inquiries

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Deb Butler: "This list continues to be used, albeit not heavily and I believe continues to serve a function."
  • 4/20/2013 Keep

media-mail

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Deb Butler: "This list continues to be used, albeit not heavily and I believe continues to serve a function."
  • 4/20/2013 Keep

movement

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/21/2013 Eli: "Nope. It can be archived."
  • 4/21/2013 srevilak: will archive and delete in a few days, unless I hear otherwise.
  • 4/22/2013 attempted to subscribe. Subscribe succeeded
  • 4/22/2013 Last activity was Dec 2011.
  • 4/28/2013 Archived and deleted

music-event

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 9/25/2013 No members. No archives. This list can go
  • 11/1/2014 Archived and deleted

needsmedia

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Autoresponder: "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at ob-media-external-owner@lists.occupyboston.org."
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 9/25/2013 No members. No archives. This list can go.
  • 11/1/2014 Archived and deleted

nonviolence

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/22/2013 attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 4/22/2013 Jorge: would like to be removed as list admin. Reset admin password, and sent Jorge instructions for doing so. Jorge said that list was never used. Asked Jorge to make me list admin.
  • 4/23/2013 No list members, and no archived messages
  • 4/23/2013 Preserved (empty) archives. Deleted

ob-consumer-direct-action

  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Terra: "how many people are on it? it was an attempt to create a boycotting action list, which could still be used, if the numbers are there...". Keep

obmedia

(media.occubos hosting order)

  • 2/17/2013 Sent Boilerplate
  • 2/24/2013 Attempted to subscribe to list. Awaiting moderator approval
  • 4/11/2013 Reset list admin password. There are no members, and no archives.
  • 4/11/2013 List deleted

Occupy MBTA

  • 2/22/2014 Sent boilerplate
  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate
  • 12/24/2014 Eli Cohen: Go ahead and archive
  • 12/24/2014 Ariel Nicole: this list is inactive
  • 12/24/2014 Jordan Price: I don't think it is used. This is the first email I have gotten from it in a long time.
  • 12/24/2014 Deb Butler: I would classify it as semi-active.
  • 12/24/2014 Linda Jenkins: it'd be good if we could easily use this for a tad longer
  • 12/24/2014 Thomas Bleser: I'm still getting and responding to these updates
  • 12/24/2014 Keep

radio

  • 2/24/2013 Radio is still active. Keep.

rainbowraiders

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved my subscription request.
  • 4/13/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/13/2013 Brandon: "I guess I was the admin on this list. I haven't seen any traffic on it in months, so I think you are ok to remove it"
  • 4/20/2013 No messages in list archives
  • 4/20/2013 Preserved (empty) archive and deleted

reinvestment

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 2/24/2013 Wes Nickerson: "There was once a working group called Community Reinvestment, that I started. The name was soon changed to Sustainable Economy, by the will of the group. So I believe that the list you are talking about is no longer used."
  • 2/24/2013 Wrote to Wes, asking whether archives should be preserved.
  • 2/24/2013 Wes: Not a problem. There were not a lot of messages sent in those early days. Disabled
  • 4/14/2013 Attempted to subscribe, so that I can preserve whatever message archives there were.
  • 5/10/2013 Wrote to Wes. Now that we have the ability to archive, I wanted to see if he's okay with preserving reinvestment archives.
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password
  • 11/1/2014 Archived and deleted

research

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 2/24/2013 Bobby Wengronowitz: "Unless others on the list have any objections, I think we can delete it. Hasn't been used in a while."
  • 2/25/2013 Bobby W.: I'd be in favor of keeping the list then, to keep the archives. I'm in favor of keeping all list archives. There was no doubt an awful lot of emails, but we're mostly talking about text that shouldn't use that much memory. I'd imagine other occupy groups may be going through similar processes (or have or will), and that dumping all the archives from all the different groups into one place would be useful for research purposes.
  • 2/25/2013 Keep for now. circle back: archives
  • 4/11/2013 Sent subscription request; approved. Sent follow-up question to research list
  • 4/20/2013 Archived and deleted

resourcemap

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. No archives and no subscribers.
  • 4/13/2013 Preserved (empty) archive. deleted

restorativejustice

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved my subscription request.
  • 4/13/2013 No list members and no archives.
  • 4/13/2013 Preserved (empty) archive. deleted

road_map_planning

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved my subscription request.
  • 4/13/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/20/2013 Sent boilerplate again, stating that I'd archive/delete the list in a few days, unless told otherwise. Looks like the last activity was Dec. 2011.
  • 4/20/2013 Rita: "I remember this. Good idea that never reached action."
  • 4/28/2013. Archived and deleted

s30

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/1/2013 Dana: To my knowledge, the S30 list hasn't been used since S30, and should be retired. Disabled.
  • 4/10/2013 Archived and deleted

saa

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 2/24/2013 Jen Mazer: "SAA doing great-people still show up and plan things and we talk about them." Keep

saferspaces

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Subscribe succeeded.
  • 3/31/2013 Sent boilerplate to list
  • 4/6/2013 Rene: "This list hasn't been used a very long time"
  • 4/10/2013 Archived and deleted.

screenprint

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Subscribe succeeded.
  • 3/31/2013 Sent boilerplate to list.
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. oops. I'm not a list admin
  • 4/13/2013 There are only 4 archived messages, and two of them are mine.
  • 4/13/2013 Preserved archives. deleted

space

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Awaiting moderator approval.
  • 4/13/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved my subscription request.
  • 4/13/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 4/13/2013 Rene: "This one's dead too. Thanks, Steve"
  • 4/13/2013 Sage: "Nope, it's not being used."
  • 4/14/2013 Paul Johnson: "We would still like to use this list. Please do archive it. We would like to use it as is."
  • 4/14/2013 Leave as-is, due to conflicting responses. keep

spokes

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 2/24/2013 Rene says the list is dead. Marty asks about saving archives. Replied to both, saying that deleting the list would also delete the archives.
  • 2/24/2013 Further discussion with Greg Murphy and Rene, re: pros and cons of retaining mail archives.
  • 2/25/2013 Robin Jacks: "I agree that the archives should/must be saved".
  • 2/25/2013 Keep for now. Circle back: archives
  • 4/11/2013 Sent subscription request. Succeeded
  • 4/11/2013 Wrote to spokes, asking if archive + delete was still okay
  • 4/12/2013 Rene: "+1 thanks, steve."
  • 4/12/2013 Bobby Wengronow: "+1 here too."
  • 4/12/2013 Archived and deleted

spiritual

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Subscribe succeeded.
  • 3/31/2013 Sent boilerplate to list.
  • 3/31/2013 Laura Steinman: "I feel it is used sometimes but I also feel FB is a good way to connect"
  • 4/1/2013 Nina Moliver: "Steve, I'm not using the list. - Nina"
  • 4/2/2013 Eden: "I have sent events on this list and I don't facebook. I'd prefer the fb events get posted here too. ... don't keep this list just for me."
  • 4/2/2013 Given the mix of responses, let's leave as-is. keep

social-enterprise

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 2/24/2013 elise.moussa: list still in use. Requested new moderator password; I sent her a moderator password reset. Keep.

stopsopa

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 2/24/2013 Message awaits moderator approval.
  • 3/31/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Subscribe succeeded.
  • 3/31/2013 Sent boilerplate to list.
  • 3/31/2013 Eli: "Nope. Good to archive"
  • 4/10/2013 list archived and deleted

street

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 2/24/2013 Kevin Maley: "I don't think this list is used anymore"
  • 2/24/2013 Wrote back to Kevin, to see if there was a desire to keep the mail archives.
  • 2/25/2013 Linda Jenkins: I'd like to keep this one, Steve, in light of the fact that retiring it means losing any messages and addresses archive associated with it.
  • 2/25/2013 Keep for now. circle back: archives
  • 4/11/2013 Wrote to list, asking if archive and delete was okay
  • 4/11/2013 Kevin Maley: "I think its ok. Any objections?"
  • 4/13/2013 Rene: "It's dead"
  • 4/20/2013 archived and deleted

strikedebt

  • 2/24/2013 Strikedebt is still an active working group. Keep.

suburbs

  • 2/24/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 2/24/2013 Terra would like to hold onto this list. Keep.

sustainable-economy-announcements

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate
  • 12/24/2014 keep. If we're keeping sustainableeconomy, might as well keep sustainable-economy-announcements

sustainableeconomy

  • 12/24/2014 sent boilerplate
  • 12/24/2014 Mazen Elfakhani: list is still used occassionally. Please keep it alive
  • 12/25/2014 keep

womenscaucus

  • 5/4/2013 Sent boilerplate
  • 5/10/2013 Attempted to subscribe. Forwared to list moderator for approval.
  • 9/25/2013 Reset list admin password. Approved subscription request.
  • 9/25/2013 Sent boilerplate.
  • 9/26/2013 Amanda Graff: Still using this list! Keep