https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=Occupy_Strategic_planning,_Meeting_Notes,_May_20,_2013&feed=atom&action=historyOccupy Strategic planning, Meeting Notes, May 20, 2013 - Revision history2024-03-28T11:59:20ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.41.0https://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=Occupy_Strategic_planning,_Meeting_Notes,_May_20,_2013&diff=18082&oldid=prevTerra at 02:02, 21 May 20132013-05-21T02:02:21Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and figure it out throughout the week - figure out when the next call is next </del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What do you want to get out of the meeting?<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* </ins>Cal - How are we going to work together as a group? How are we going?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Monday or the Monday after</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* </ins>Aria - We are moving toward a mission statement - the way we formulate strategy </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Once we get hard objectives then we will evaluate the data to get people </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Once we get hard objectives then we will evaluate the data to get people </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>thinking about goals and objectives. Direction of the mission then agreement of </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>thinking about goals and objectives. Direction of the mission then agreement of </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Karen - Look at people as human beings to make change - confusion of our </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* </ins>Education for people - reaching out to individuals.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Terrahttps://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/index.php?title=Occupy_Strategic_planning,_Meeting_Notes,_May_20,_2013&diff=18080&oldid=prevTerra: Created page with "5/20/13 6-8pm Call Home Work from 5/20 call: Go on Ether Pad and share what the issues are - edit and figure it out throughout the week - figure out when the next call is ne..."2013-05-21T01:56:17Z<p>Created page with "5/20/13 6-8pm Call Home Work from 5/20 call: Go on Ether Pad and share what the issues are - edit and figure it out throughout the week - figure out when the next call is ne..."</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>5/20/13<br />
6-8pm Call<br />
Home Work from 5/20 call: Go on Ether Pad and share what the issues are - edit <br />
and figure it out throughout the week - figure out when the next call is next <br />
Monday or the Monday after<br />
[Personal question about the call (not stated to the group during the call but I <br />
wanted to ask after ward) (When I checked into the call it stated that it may be <br />
recorded. Why is that? Who has the recording if it was recorded? What would <br />
the recording be used for?)<br />
I have been on other conference calls without it being recorded or potentially <br />
recorded.]<br />
What do you want to get out of the meeting?<br />
Cal - How are we going to work together as a group? How are we going?<br />
Aria - We are moving toward a mission statement - the way we formulate strategy <br />
is to collect information as a means of collecting strategy.<br />
Once we get hard objectives then we will evaluate the data to get people <br />
thinking about goals and objectives. Direction of the mission then agreement of <br />
the objectives.<br />
Can the group be nimble? (Agreement)<br />
Individuals verse institutions (Example Abolish all meat farms) How to? <br />
Education for people - reaching out to individuals.<br />
Karen - Look at people as human beings to make change - confusion of our <br />
process. Would like to give power to the people and not institutions.<br />
More concrete goals. World peace good goal but hard to strategize. What are <br />
specific things we can strategize.<br />
6:38pm Talking about lingo<br />
When answering the questions about what lingo: Not understanding the difference <br />
between achieving world peace and a Constitutional Amendment as they are both <br />
"pie in the sky"<br />
as expressed by Karen.<br />
Terra - We are looking to facilitate legislative actions through education. <br />
Individual action as a category that can be "bubbled on" from the grassroots up.<br />
Karen - Does not believe amending the Constitution is enough for change.<br />
Chris - Institutions and Individuals - Individuals are a big force as consumers.<br />
6:48pm Deciding what we are going to do next<br />
Karen - Wants to empower individuals to affect change - to do things<br />
Aria - At the end of this we should have a list of goals for people to take <br />
individual action.<br />
Karen - Clarifying? Is the purpose of this call to create a new political party?<br />
Aria - What does Occupy want?<br />
Terra - The roadmap is a collection of ideas - where are people's head's going - <br />
collective think - the roadmap are things that can happen legislatively as well <br />
as more - two roadmaps one for legislative change and one for post legislative <br />
change<br />
6:55pm<br />
Polar - We don't need to make the distinction of individual verse institution - <br />
reality based change not simply "empower individuals" something more specific<br />
If something doesn't represent something that is in a "realty zone" then it <br />
shouldn't be on the list.<br />
7pm Aria is breaking up - can you hear me now<br />
One hour into to call<br />
Bianca - Where is viability directed? (Answer: Why mention world peace and <br />
then take our group seriously)<br />
Aria - Not talking about what talking about how<br />
Ending poverty in the world doesn't fit the criteria so we shouldn't include it.<br />
Michael - question about the survey verse having a goal like ending corporate <br />
persons<br />
Aria - The survey is a mid step before the national gathering to collect information<br />
Cal - What are the steps we are going to do for a goal if we picked one <br />
thing before natgat<br />
Karen - What's she's feeling is missing - her concern - tons of surveys done <br />
asking questions - feels whoever shows up on a call determines the agenda - we <br />
should go back and see what people thought when as a group and cite it -<br />
7:12pm<br />
Aria - Abandon the process and see how we can advise those at natgat could do x <br />
y or z thing one option - second option bring the results of a survey with us to <br />
see where the "umff" is - throwing this out there as possibilities as were <br />
things to go<br />
Cal - It a solution not either or - more national input verse clumps of people <br />
who show up in places - most people outside Occupy want the movement to focus<br />
Polar - If Karen is right why bother with surveys - we are a working group <br />
associated with Occupy - Occupy is a loosely linked chain with each group having <br />
a mission - the work we choose to do is valid - come up with a product to bring <br />
to natgat that represents the knowledge base and skill set of the people in this <br />
group - I think the focus is "Who are we" - The movement accomplishes nothing if <br />
we don't turn about 100 million people in this society. Serious movement <br />
doesn't identify with pipe dreams.<br />
Karen - She thought this was the national strategy group - she thought this <br />
groups purpose was to see what people wanted and bring a proposal to natgat and <br />
build a strategic plan - I don't think a survey is the way through it - what is <br />
lacking is the political will - by political I mean individuals not a list serve <br />
- Interested in bringing a strategic plan to national gathering<br />
Terra - Believes we have been preparing proposals to bring to the natgat - <br />
individual action verse legislative what percent of our effort will be put into each<br />
7:26pm<br />
Aria - What we should do is take the data we have now and narrow it down to a <br />
number - say 12 and present that to natgat as a means of crowd sourcing - we <br />
want to know what they want -<br />
Michael - Believes there should be one main focus of the movement and show <br />
how that one thing connects to many things<br />
Cal - Had a vision on how the movement focused on one thing and achieved that <br />
one thing and use that to achieve another thing - wasn't for focusing on one <br />
thing but now believes the movement should focus on one thing and thinks that a <br />
strategy group should make that recommendation at natgat<br />
Polar - One broad objective corporate ownership of the country under that <br />
corporate personhood - media, commons - did start off as Occupy Wall Street not <br />
Occupy End of War - framing our project as one thing such as corporate ownership <br />
of the country and go from there<br />
7:35pm<br />
Aria - Believes that the people who attend the natgat are the people who are <br />
doing the work - if we were to say bring to natgat ending corporate person but <br />
don't bring an income guarantee and a proportional representative<br />
Cal - Many things you just said fall into corporate power - most things with the <br />
economy - unions - wages<br />
Dennis - For years we have a one sided top down class war - they are stopping <br />
everything including environmental stuff - paid off by lobbyists - if we can <br />
centralize it and fit a lot of different issues that show it has to do with the <br />
controls of the corporations<br />
Polar - Like the idea of an umbrella to affect a lot aspects - what is it to be <br />
a fully realized human being?<br />
Michael - Government in the Future by Prof. Chomsky has in it about about true <br />
human action is that which flows from inter impulse - the true end of humanity <br />
is to inquire and create not be a cog in a machine of production<br />
Terra - likes how the energy is converging on a short list<br />
Aria - Basic income guarantee - abolish corporate person - set aside first use <br />
privilege of common land with first use privilege of disenfranchised people<br />
Polar - Human Personhood<br />
7:45pm<br />
Karen - Proposed three things - need to shift power - what is power - <br />
dismantling the corporate system - realize people's own human potential<br />
Cal - not imposing a plan on other people - Terra planned a debrief at the end <br />
of the call<br />
Aria - What and how is very important - what is missing is how are we going to <br />
get there - proposal the mission of this group to put forth objectives of how <br />
will Occupy bring about a new world<br />
Polar - In response to Karen's idea we are back to everything again and I think <br />
it is too broad - what started Occupy Wall Street was the financial collapse and <br />
disenfranchised everybody but the bankers and nothing has been fixed because the <br />
corporations own the government (8:04pm Media campaign about the irony of human <br />
personhood believing that it can reach people)<br />
Karen - I was proposing not just destructing but human values and creativity and <br />
human law<br />
Michael - We can not fail at abolishing corporate persons - we need to continue <br />
until we succeed at abolishing corporate persons - we will not be able to do <br />
anything about the environment until we abolish corporate persons - the <br />
environment is truly an inclusive issue and we can not affect the change as we <br />
need to as long as corporations are people embracing environmental destruction <br />
as money making opportunities<br />
Aria - come up with a short list would be a great mission for this group - I <br />
hope we can settle that as a mission<br />
Karen - concur that we need a narrower list - not a survey - merit in exhaustive <br />
list on paper - to then narrow<br />
8:05pm<br />
Debrief<br />
8:30pm<br />
Home Work: Go on Ether Pad and share what the issues are - edit and figure it <br />
out throughout the week - figure out when the next call is next Monday or the <br />
Monday after</div>Terra