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Media meeting Notes 12/21/11<br />
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Wednesday<br />
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Gunner, Liam, Storm, Gabriel, Julie, Acacia, Ryan, Josh/ first work group meeting<br />
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Farhad, Will, Matt S, /Kendra, Debra, Nathan<br />
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Martin, Sarah<br />
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Need co-facilitation for media meetings - Acacia<br />
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During the camp the meetings were on the fly/<br />
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Facilitation/ maybe we should all be taking turns<br />
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Reviewing what needs to be done from last week<br />
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Strategy will be second<br />
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From last week's list of work<br />
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1/ Website cleanup<br />
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2/Research article on BPD<br />
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3/Status on the Greenway press releases<br />
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Julie<br />
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Starting to put changes through\<br />
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Some working groups need to put changes through<br />
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Arts groups also have some lists<br />
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Community forum to have a place for conversations that do not belong on the main list<br />
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Farhad<br />
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We need moderation on the community forum list<br />
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One of the working groups asked if we could get a contact list from the front page of the website for people to contact all working groups.google.com<br />
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Farhad<br />
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Another working groups called inreach/ transparency/ internal communications<br />
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People who want to get intouch with other working groups should do something else. It might be outloaded into inreach<br />
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Going to wiwk for dead links that do not exist anymore<br />
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inreacha@lists@occupyboston.org<br />
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What is the criteria for determining if something is important vs chatter<br />
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Research articles/ julie<br />
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articlew about the police depaertment and the ewxpenses for the one night of the world series<br />
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I sort of left whether you wanted to write that or not? You seem to know what the ity paid and all about it.<br />
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May be difficult to qualify how to figure it out.<br />
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There are ways to find out/ What the city spent ond OB vs the world series/ is it worth investigating<br />
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Could be an independent article that we may come back to<br />
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opposition research/ deploy when you need to<br />
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Debra/ foia letter/ review it and decide to draw attention and combat it or not.<br />
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Typically write a politie then do and foia letter.<br />
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I see pitfalls in this/ what ever data may be distorted/<br />
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There is an info graphic that show nationally the cost of Occupy vs different costs<br />
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how would we find tahta?<br />
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A website called occupydesign.com<br />
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Aggregated info graphics and has builded a community around design elements within occupy nationally/ contact them to see who submitted this and where they got their data from<br />
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Status on greenway press releases<br />
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board links/ press release to get ghandi in there<br />
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This is what we raised/ we plan to use the money for what ever we decide<br />
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may put ghandi in dewey sq<br />
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we do not want to put out an attacking press release for that reason<br />
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The greenway was a demasi pet project/ money was diverted to create the greenway/ I work at the state house and this was a couple of years ago/ a socer field in his neighborhood has remained a dirt patchand they cannot get the money to finish it/<br />
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ina move to occupy the issues and do this<br />
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debra has the statehouse news and an pull the archives of the debate on the issues<br />
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occupy the issues<br />
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The issues of ghandi going into dewey sq may ba a GA thing<br />
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cannot just plop it down there/ may be a long process/<br />
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What if occupy decided to give them money for trees/<br />
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executive director there make 25ok a year/ they have plenty of money<br />
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Something matt and phil were supposed to work on/ but it didn't happen<br />
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moving along to strategy and posting on all ob channels/ note 3<br />
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Overall on our facebooks and twitters the things that come up are anybody's guesses/ one time a funny piture/ another time something left leaning/ against the banks , government, menino, the policie<br />
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No way to consolidate the thoughts and get a more concise feel for what we are doing<br />
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There are 25 admins on facebook and most are media<br />
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59 on blog<br />
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some do communicate/ some do not/ as a team there is not enough communication/ why should we post? What story are we trying to tell/ nothing will get sent on the first article on 4th hour many sent/ most articles have nothing to do with each other/<br />
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twitter has a different tone the same as facebook<br />
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great thing about ob is that ist is hjust whatever<br />
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There have been many times where I will wake up and certain things are going on and it has not been posted on the website<br />
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all for having a bunch of voices and opinions<br />
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would be good to have a general<br />
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sarah<br />
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many things are written ahead of time and scheduled in, things are put in and schedule through out the day that are more sensible<br />
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facebook and twitter and how effective these are by themselves<br />
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maybe more specific things on the blog and a way to have more detailed content categorized<br />
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we have discussed in the past the media ias trying to facilitate getting the workd out and having a strategy<br />
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we have given blog status to outreach events<br />
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there should be spaces for astrategy<br />
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infrastruture for other aspects<br />
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being more disciplined about getting importaqtn stories prioritized and other stuff that is less importatn<br />
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historically is putting together issues and things that we should cover/ folks have just said I am going to wrrite about something/ so do and some do not/ 25 have been able to complete the press release for example and sent them out<br />
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in part of tonights meeting is putting some structure together and occupying the issues piece<br />
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acacia<br />
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the posts that we have and we used to do a draft post and have a few people look at it before it goes out<br />
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and emergency<br />
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we should have someone at every ga determine what proposals have been passed<br />
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We need structure in regards to broadcast/ the front page of the blog/ the randomness and distributed nature within the media/ we want to err on the side of less structure to allow the info to flow/ we are tryiun gto stop the inappropriateness of some posts<br />
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the timeliness is something we an't influewnce<br />
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to make sure tha importatn timely information is posted in a timely manner<br />
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if the front page is too cluttered we could have an editor of the front page/ that happens on firedog lake where they have amny bloggers contributing to get the idea of what is a priority<br />
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the thread tha ti saw talka about the media going outward where we frame our own narrative/ count bankul and vidi amin/ a flash mob to get attention/<br />
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then keepingour own people informed about the things that affect freedom of speech, civil liberties and legal<br />
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are we both outward and inward media and I realized we don't know the answer<br />
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I am a little bit troubled by that distinction/ I post on my own blog/ the guy by the doo/ harvard law school server/<br />
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I have always assumed that I was talking to people both within the movement and outside<br />
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I try not to couch things too much in an inward way and preaching to the converted<br />
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I don't want to make assumptions about people who are supposedlyu my allies know about what isdifferent than mine/ someone in a different part of the camp an be remarkedly like someonw who has visited us/ in term s of outward I am always s trying to push the ledge/ I am not politically aligned but alwaays question the mainstream that just handing a press release does not do/ that is my philosophy<br />
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What deb is saying is not preaching to the choir/ when are we reporting to ourselves vs reporting to the world of large<br />
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I don't see the effect of that<br />
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Do we ewant to ome up with some system for one section<br />
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kewep this on and takle this going along<br />
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Farhad<br />
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to reply with in the social media would be how often do we want to tweet and what are we retweeting<br />
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we need to have the technical discussions<br />
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What are we trying to emphasize<br />
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doing a blog<br />
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The main tweeters who tweet on the acount are not here and talking about content and social media is not the best time for it.<br />
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How do we want to proceed with this.<br />
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A narrow perspective that if we need something posted timeley we facilitate getting it posted timely for the GA/<br />
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How an we do that in a simple way<br />
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there are multiple members of facilitation who have blog access/ that channel should be out of the hands of the people in this room. Someone there live tweeting definitaely<br />
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blog posts for proposals/ we can see how that is going/ not necessary to put a person there to do the same thing<br />
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ga proposal is on the agend atonight<br />
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for livew stream we have an amazing ssytem of stexting<br />
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what we post on the we have/ if someone needs to be onsite for something we text and then we get a producer<br />
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someone posts this right now/ email is not whre it's at right now<br />
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23559 if you text ob media<br />
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the new sms system<br />
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Next item is creating a process for other groups to create blog posts, stories and other important news<br />
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tech group creating need media at occupy boston.org<br />
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not something we do well<br />
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we have mystery phone numbers<br />
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we are still searching for the twitter account password<br />
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not attached to any emails<br />
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go to the a list/ people reply and it goes back to the list/<br />
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if you get the email address created we will figure it out<br />
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today a press release requeest about the court case<br />
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folks processed about it but did not stwep up to write it<br />
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people seemed over scheduled and stressed<br />
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we do this to ourselves we overloaded<br />
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ourselves, it is not as easy<br />
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maybe we need to relook at what we are doing as individual and focus on that rather than driving yourself nuts<br />
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lookat what we can do and want to do as good as you can and make things run somoother<br />
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there are some other things/ what are we kind of good at and what migh be priorities for us/<br />
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it would be great if we could write more investigative styles about issues<br />
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it is more of a priority to make sure tha we have phot and video actions online/ that sort of thing<br />
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sarah/ there are people that do in a timely manner/ research is better for me/ I don't have to be here and can be more focused<br />
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there are things that can take more time and are more pressing/ I can't get things done like this<br />
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we won't figure this all out tonight<br />
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on the list we have things I found on list serve as well as the claewndar/ press releases/ occupy the issues/ some that have been started and other topics that we have focused on<br />
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tother issues we can whip through quickly<br />
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fisrt night media tent/ would be bad ass/ monday night hosting at church and the list of articles we need to talk about<br />
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farhad/ a few things that can work<br />
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listo f articles/ blog posts/ move to last tgwo articles<br />
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one that is pressing is the court case/ the aclu put out an article/ picked up by the boston globe already<br />
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there are a couple of things before we get into this/<br />
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no way for media to contact this that I know of/ ob gmail acount/<br />
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for press inquiries/ we check it every day 50xs<br />
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the police took the phone<br />
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most of the reporters have their own OB media contact/ some call 5 xs a day<br />
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same people keep doing the same issues<br />
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some are media trained and want to be media trained and going forward that we are not in the dirt we can have other people in the media<br />
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we are gettting contacted 5 times a day/ press tv is the iranian media that contacts five times a day<br />
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they want to talk about the occupation and what is next<br />
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focus on actions and what we want to talk about<br />
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the media is still trying to pursue a story<br />
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an we talk about that<br />
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how much would it make sense to have less control for press inquiries to come to and not enough people doing press interviews/ how much would it do to have people who do not want to interview serve as a press field agent<br />
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I get those requests and think we should have that<br />
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I could not always get intouch with people on camp<br />
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would call people and ask people to talk to press and many had not been to camp in weeks<br />
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we need that/ because we do not have a central hub/ that group of people, if fox news calls I can hook up with a field person<br />
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if there was an ob phone taken by the police, we should get another<br />
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oin one of the last meetings media had was the same voices in the media again and again, a tool kit for people in the media, having media bullet points/ seems actionable and reasonable<br />
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I am wondering whether the conventional phone is the thing we want to have. We want a phone number tha is unique and that everyone knows/ skype? / google voice?<br />
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Coordinationg will require significant thought<br />
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we did have a media number with the google account/ I can get it back<br />
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If you have a second phone that is broken, for $20 YOU CAN HAVE THE NUMBER LOADED<br />
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Google voice will work for those who want to field/ they can listen to emails<br />
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attacjh to the media attached to list serve<br />
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anyhone with a smart phone can double up the phone.<br />
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If you use by phone/ you can schedule where the phone calls go/ change the shedule for different times of the list and day<br />
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Once we get our shit together<br />
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can we write down our name on a list?<br />
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stories we need to write<br />
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court ase<br />
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farhad/ know where the ball got dropped<br />
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need a press release/ volunteer myself and philosophy<br />
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matt was supposed to work with phil and he never contacted him<br />
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deb can work as a research assistatn because whene there are terms of art I know what they mean<br />
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ben is a lawyer who can write out a paragraph/ so we are all on the same page/call from the press release/ will put on the wikilinks<br />
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the press release will be done for tomorrow morning by 10am posted and sent<br />
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send to gunner and edited<br />
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first night and info tent<br />
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katherine will take this on<br />
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contact kevin, ask about a press release and first night details/ let us know if that is going to happen/ done by tuesday to send out<br />
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the occupoetry reading this friday/ merits a press release or a blog posting?<br />
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It merits a short press release/ if it goes to statehouse news it will be put into the list of the day for people who would not be there otherwiese<br />
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anything deserves a press release<br />
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whether people love or hate occupy it gets mad clicks<br />
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press release everything<br />
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toa sk someone if wee need it, they may be doing something on their own and we don't want to stoep on their toes<br />
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what is the line between what we do a press release for and a media advisory<br />
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we do not have a big name star and a week our<br />
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we may need to put things on the bucket list for the media advisory/ poetry list/ 5pm tomorrow<br />
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deb will be able to do this/ psot to list for edits within an hour or so/ before noon or ten will do it/<br />
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Gunner will not be checking email between 12-4 (before 12 after 4)<br />
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community gathering on Monday/Alert people that these are happening, every Monday/<br />
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Maybe get it out for Friday/ Get press on it for next week<br />
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matt will write this and soemone will copy edit it<br />
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Action of the occupy nativity scene/ noon at dewey<br />
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anyone talking to Diret action/ nothing occupy related until new year's everything<br />
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sarah has a meeting with someof the ga kids<br />
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how to get in touch with direct action?<br />
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Do not really rely a lot on electronic communication<br />
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matt hacker/ there was a resolution about houseless folks<br />
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there was some stuff about it/ the suggestion was made to write a press release and that we are filling a void from the current social system piece/ money to send people to providence and dc to speak to this issue<br />
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sarah dickerson will write this with matt<br />
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joshua eaton has a crew of four people who will take on the responsibility to post resolutions to the website, this is separat from the resolution<br />
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it hasn't been working as smoothly since camp got raided. Some one will bring an amendment at the next ga<br />
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let's leave this open and see what happens with amendments<br />
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we can tie stuff back together with the resources<br />
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interviewing people who are houseless<br />
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any other stuff this week?<br />
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Any other proess issues around assignments<br />
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suggestion that eli had that in additon to assigning things we have a person poke people with a sharp stick to remind people / matt has volunteered and martin/ wiill get the note s for the assignments<br />
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debra will take the rotation<br />
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monday hosting a speaker first night<br />
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what monday night community event gathering event<br />
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maybe the second week in january/ the second or the 16th/ we need to talk about snacks etc<br />
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can someone confirm that we can get the 16th<br />
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we ould approach someone and autonomously find someone form here or a press person/<br />
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maybe come up with a speech and bring it up<br />
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what is it we are looking for/ canwe address this tonight or can it wait<br />
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first night<br />
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top if agenda next week speaker and what to do jan 16<br />
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media tent suggestions/ we don't really have anything to say about it/<br />
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did we have a media tent plan/ literal tent?<br />
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We can get the big red tent and set up a table and sleeping bag etc<br />
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we could have 2 tents a media tent and a n info tent<br />
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temp check aobut having one or two tents<br />
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how do we feel about how media participates in the OB tent rather than having two-Feathers<br />
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sarah<br />
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I don't know the details about what they are doing/ are we stepping on their toes?<br />
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We should supprot from a media role<br />
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also/ first night is a diffuse event and two tents in two locations is a win<br />
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it gives a certain amount that is less bustable at the same timeliness<br />
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julie and katherrine<br />
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it will rquire tow permits to set up 2 tents<br />
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info tent where people just pick up literature does not involve the public<br />
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media tent with livestream can allow people to get on camera and vent negative or positive<br />
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katie<br />
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basically it was decided that we may not have the tent<br />
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we still may not have a tent, may have canvassing, not decided/ will have details next week<br />
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wanted to say thatwe talked aobut other interactive things/ coordinating them and taking actionthere.<br />
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Ryan spoken to live strem psople will be running livestream and hoping to get more.<br />
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Rumors that tent will result in a central hub/ not decided/ heard rumors about the bat signal<br />
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actually heard about eh projector in an intera tive way<br />
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Media Working Group AGENDA 12/21/11 - tonight 7-9p<br />
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Names, pronouns, area of interest<br />
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Note taker and time keeper needed<br />
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· Co-facilitator/shared facilitation for the media working group<br />
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· Reviewing what was done or still needs to done from last week's list of work<br />
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Website clean up – see note #1<br />
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Research Article on cost to BPD and city of Boston re World Series night vs. their cost for 3 months of Occupy.<br />
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Status on Greenway Press Release<br />
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· Create process for other working groups to send us requests for writing blog posts, press releases, or posting their own written piece<br />
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Idea: Having liaisons with each working group; email address all requests go to one email address that forward to our list<br />
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· New - Occupy the Issues: Writing investigative/in depth articles on the issues/topics related to the Occupy Movement - some have been started<br />
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NDAA - Matt<br />
Wiki Leaks - W<br />
Greenway - 2 part article - Phil & Acacia, and Sarah B.<br />
Other topics?<br />
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Working with the Boston Occupier to share content<br />
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· Blog Comment moderation process - see note #2<br />
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· Strategy for Posting on all OB channels – see note #3<br />
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· List of articles, blog posts, press releases needing to be written for this week; List of events video or photo is needed<br />
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1. OB Court Case - Plaintiffs from Occupy Boston today filed a voluntary dismissal, ending their lawsuit against the City of Boston, Occupy Boston v. City of Boston, et al.see note #4<br />
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2. Info Tent First Night - Occupy Boston's Info Tent is going to be at First Night on Dec 31st; welcoming people and talking to them about OB. contact: Kevin@OccupyBoston.org<br />
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3. OccuPoetry reading this Friday Dec. 23 on the Mass. State House steps at noon -1. With permit and PA. Come and bring your Dewey-inspired verse! Hosted by Susie Davidson and Pedro Malave of SEIU<br />
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4. "Community Gathering", Mon Dec 26th These community building events are presented in the spirit of "let's continue to tear down the walls which sometimes separate us," through the use of facilitated dialogue, presentations, workshops, teach-ins, etc. . email gsjmurphy@gmail.com with the subject of "Community Gathering", and in the email body list the Topic and the sponsoring working group. http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/Community_Gatherings <br />
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· Press Releases on Passed Resolutions see note #5<br />
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· New SMS group for people who would like to receive more frequent OB updates. See note #6<br />
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· Creating Photo archive/deposit – New Flickr account - see note #<br />
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· Schedule separate one-time meeting Social Media - for things like Facebook, Twitter, and the WordPress site so that (a) folks who work on those things can meet each other separately and (b) so that they can come to some consensus on best practices.<br />
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· What Monday night do we want to host at St Paul’s and can we get a speaker? Suggestions for speaker?<br />
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· First Night Media Tent? Suggestions to interact with passersby. Livestream? Record stories? Hand out 99% tags. Sign up sheet.<br />
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· Globe Ad – alternatives<br />
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· DVD of “Billionaire’s Tea Party.” Documentary. Julie can screen it<br />
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Notes<br />
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#1 From Gabe - Website: As part of the website cleanup, the music and events wg asked if we could create a contact list on the website that had all the groups' emails in one place. I said I would ask about it. I can see it being a really convenient thing but also vastly increasing the chances of people bombing all the lists. I don't even know whose decision it would be to make, but definitely not just mine and Matt from Tech's.<br />
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#2 - From Joshua - Comment moderation on the blog in currently enabled, media was consulted a while back when the change was made. Only a user's first comment is moderated. (In other words, after someone has commented and had their comment approved once, their comments will be posted automatically from then on.) Unfortunately, only people with admin privileges have the ability to approve comments. As far as I know this is built into WordPress itself and cannot be changed. I originally implemented this rather modest moderation because we were getting so many downright abusive and obscene comments ("You f***ing f***ers, why don't you go f*** yourselves!"). The general opinion of the workgroup was that these shut down free speech more than they contributed to it.<br />
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#3 – From Martin Strategy for Posting on OB channels - I would like to talk about having a strategy for what we post on all our channels. For there to be a well thought out message and not just random post everywhere all the time which equate to autonomous action. For there to be a media schedule and talking points each week with a specific topic and or theme for that week. So we can paint a story, build a narrative and create calls to action.<br />
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#4 From Eli – COURT Case Filings our lawyers are filing to agree to voluntarily dismissal and not appeal later today. Press release that the ACLU will be sending out. Things to do:<br />
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1) We may want to craft our own PR. Can anyone take this on? They are filing this afternoon.<br />
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2) Ben said to expect media calls about it, so at the very least we should be ready to answer questions. Who can be available to answer questions?<br />
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3) Can someone jot out some talking points and reply all?<br />
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Some really quick thoughts:<br />
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- there were some elements of the judges ruling that we should draw attention to as being "wins" for us (e.g. occupation being a message)<br />
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- big message is that we haven't gone anywhere. we're still meeting constantly everyday. we're moving to phase 2<br />
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- this was never about dewey square, this was about _____ (our issues)<br />
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- going into a lengthy appeals process not a priority for us, we want to focus our energy on evicting wall street from congress<br />
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#5 from Matt H. – Passed Resolutions<br />
Posting Passed Resolutions on the website blog, and I've been intermittently fulfilling that responsibility. Some of the discussion around Cherie's proposal last night involved the point that it could be good for the public face of OB to characterize the resources the movement has now made available for its most vulnerable members as a noble experiment in filling the void left by the current broken social service systems. So I wanted to make sure the proposal gets posted (and I'm looking for the final text), but I also wanted to see if anyone wanted to do this up as more than just another passed resolution, since, in combination with the money that was spent on sending people to Providence and DC last week, it's a pretty significant statement of the movement's values. It didn't pass without significant dissent, but now that it has, seems like we should play up the movement's willingness to take responsibility for its community members in innovative ways as much as possible.<br />
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#6 From Eli- I'd like to create a new SMS group for people who would like to receive more frequent OB updates. Right now, I can use the massive emergency text group because we don't have "emergencies" any more and that's not what they opted-in for. I do think a substantial percentage of people on that list (1800 total now) would be open to receiving more updates like where GA is, what flash mob is happening, ect.. We should have some guidelines around useage of that as well, but it will give us more flexability. I'd also like a temp check around sending the emergency list a text inviting them to join the new @obupdates group, if people think that's OK.<br />
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#7– the flickr account labeled Occupy Boston is owned by Open Media, not Occupy Boston. We should have our own that we control.</div>Occupybostonart