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* purpose of meeting | * purpose of meeting<br> | ||
- connect | |||
- $ | - connect<br> | ||
- how | - $<br> | ||
- needs | - how<br> | ||
- needs<br> | |||
*intros (please insert your answers into the google notes) | *intros (please insert your answers into the google notes) | ||
- who are you? | <br> | ||
- what do you want to do? | - who are you?<br> | ||
- what do you bring to the table? | - what do you want to do?<br> | ||
- what do you bring to the table?<br> | |||
*opportunities | *opportunities | ||
- occupy the economy | <br> | ||
- occupy the economy<br> | |||
- take movement to next phase | - take movement to next phase | ||
- education / using media | <br> | ||
- close waste / loopholes | - education / using media<br> | ||
- beyond human capital | - close waste / loopholes<br> | ||
- full system thinking | - beyond human capital<br> | ||
- space | - full system thinking<br> | ||
- progressive left splinters | - space<br> | ||
- cultural zeitgeist | - progressive left splinters<br> | ||
- cultural zeitgeist<br> | |||
- taking advantage of "the brand" | - taking advantage of "the brand" | ||
<br> | |||
- timing, widespread discontent | - timing, widespread discontent | ||
<br> | |||
- lack of jobs | - lack of jobs | ||
<br> | |||
- need-survival | - need-survival | ||
<br> | |||
- crisis → obviously not sustainable | - crisis → obviously not sustainable | ||
<br> | |||
- co-ops are better | - co-ops are better | ||
<br> | |||
- hope of freedom from capitalist strategy | - hope of freedom from capitalist strategy | ||
<br> | |||
- freeing talent | - freeing talent | ||
<br> | |||
- edge of the earth | - edge of the earth | ||
- tech skills | <br> | ||
- web | - tech skills<br> | ||
- web<br> | |||
- document our experience to guide the next wave | - document our experience to guide the next wave | ||
<br> | |||
- regionalism | - regionalism | ||
<br> | |||
- age of adaption | - age of adaption | ||
<br> | |||
- solutions to bring to the movement | - solutions to bring to the movement | ||
<br> | |||
- grow power by sharing | - grow power by sharing | ||
<br> | |||
- freedom from tyranny | - freedom from tyranny | ||
- co-ops can start with little money / resources by growing together | <br> | ||
- co-ops can start with little money / resources by growing together<br> | |||
- co-creation customers | - co-creation customers | ||
<br> | |||
- status quo no longer an option and its a matter of fact now that we have to do something different | - status quo no longer an option and its a matter of fact now that we have to do something different | ||
- moment has come where we no longer point to the problems but devise solutions, co-ops, social enterprises to address social problems | <br> | ||
- process of innovation and social contribution | - moment has come where we no longer point to the problems but devise solutions, co-ops, social enterprises to address social problems<br> | ||
- process of innovation and social contribution<br> | |||
* challenges | * challenges<br> | ||
- how to structure | - how to structure | ||
- no traditional stake | <br> | ||
- no traditional stake<br> | |||
- “property” | - “property” | ||
- left splintered / ing | <br> | ||
- left splintered / ing<br> | |||
* tasks | * tasks | ||
<br> | |||
- educate | - educate | ||
<br> | |||
- fine space to operate | - fine space to operate | ||
<br> | |||
- next meeting? | - next meeting? | ||
- find templates/case studies for successful operational models for the group to read/explore | <br> | ||
- find templates/case studies for successful operational models for the group to read/explore<br> | |||
* Resources | * Resources | ||
- Terry will send an article about the Mondragon cooperative | <br> | ||
- lists of advice and funding shared onsite. see Social Enterprise Group page at the bottom for links. see also below | - Terry will send an article about the Mondragon cooperative<br> | ||
- lists of advice and funding shared onsite. see Social Enterprise Group page at the bottom for links. see also below<br> | |||
* operational models | * operational models<br> | ||
- models for success | - models for success<br> | ||
- everyone need separate building or desk, computers, experts | - everyone need separate building or desk, computers, experts<br> | ||
* talent<br> | |||
* list of questions for those seeking to start co-ops<br> | |||
* How to get money by Terry | * How to get money by Terry | ||
<br> | |||
- most people use money from friends & family, credit cards with 0% | - most people use money from friends & family, credit cards with 0% | ||
<br> | |||
- Boston Community Loan Fund – their job is to make loans to businesses 550 million all over the USA (Boston is one of most progressive ones) | - Boston Community Loan Fund – their job is to make loans to businesses 550 million all over the USA (Boston is one of most progressive ones) | ||
<br> | |||
- CDFI – nonprofits set up across USA that make loans to businesses in low income areas, but now anything that creates jobs is OK for them, especially cooperatives | - CDFI – nonprofits set up across USA that make loans to businesses in low income areas, but now anything that creates jobs is OK for them, especially cooperatives | ||
<br> | |||
- Terry is a founder of the Social investment $6 billion and loaned to many business only that are socially responsible companies | - Terry is a founder of the Social investment $6 billion and loaned to many business only that are socially responsible companies | ||
<br> | |||
- we must plug in to the resources that already exist | - we must plug in to the resources that already exist | ||
<br> | |||
- start with Boston Community Loan Fundraising | - start with Boston Community Loan Fundraising | ||
- Mondragon (umbrella to 250 co-ops) makes a loan to start a business always start with a grup of people, they choose a group that gorups chooses a member to get trained to run the business for 2 years and buy enough land around the factory, they person stays for 2 years to put business together | <br> | ||
- Mondragon (umbrella to 250 co-ops) makes a loan to start a business always start with a grup of people, they choose a group that gorups chooses a member to get trained to run the business for 2 years and buy enough land around the factory, they person stays for 2 years to put business together<br> | |||
*what's so beautiful about what they do is no equity, 13%loan interest for first loan, second at 7% and stay with people, down to just giving money. If these fail: management, employees, capital product – they never abandon the original people so if product doesn't work out, they get a new product | *what's so beautiful about what they do is no equity, 13%loan interest for first loan, second at 7% and stay with people, down to just giving money. If these fail: management, employees, capital product – they never abandon the original people so if product doesn't work out, they get a new product | ||
- there is a ration of highest paid person (5:1) | <br> | ||
- culture of joy so they retain talent | - there is a ration of highest paid person (5:1)<br> | ||
- culture of joy so they retain talent<br> | |||
- take priority to common good, create more jobs | - take priority to common good, create more jobs | ||
<br> | |||
- because the workers own the company they aren't afraid of heirarchy (note that we could use different language – hierarchy by process NOT people) | - because the workers own the company they aren't afraid of heirarchy (note that we could use different language – hierarchy by process NOT people) | ||
- they gave priority to the social good and that's why they survived | <br> | ||
- they treasure talent rather than be threatened by that | - they gave priority to the social good and that's why they survived<br> | ||
- they treasure talent rather than be threatened by that<br> | |||
- they have their own school, university, you never get fired, when economy is bad, they send you back to school because that is a contribution to the common good | - they have their own school, university, you never get fired, when economy is bad, they send you back to school because that is a contribution to the common good | ||
- capital flow is key | <br> | ||
- capital flow is key<br> | |||
- note: doesn't have to be a co-operative as long as it has a priority for the common good | - note: doesn't have to be a co-operative as long as it has a priority for the common good | ||
<br> | |||
- the millions of people around the world that paid attention to Occupy said we are ready for the next stage of human evolution → we are all in this together, giving priority to the common good it's no longer about capitalism OR socialism (at full maturity that's why people responded) | - the millions of people around the world that paid attention to Occupy said we are ready for the next stage of human evolution → we are all in this together, giving priority to the common good it's no longer about capitalism OR socialism (at full maturity that's why people responded) | ||
- the human species is fully ready | <br> | ||
- the human species is fully ready<br> | |||
* there are 3 stages: | * there are 3 stages: | ||
<br> | |||
- outrage first (occupy did it in 2 months, MLK in 10 years) | - outrage first (occupy did it in 2 months, MLK in 10 years) | ||
<br> | |||
- unilateral action | - unilateral action | ||
- political resolution | <br> | ||
- political resolution<br> | |||
- to get this out there, DO IT & pay attention to how you do it | - to get this out there, DO IT & pay attention to how you do it | ||
- just how Laurie, Liam, & Elise do it for example | <br> | ||
- just how Laurie, Liam, & Elise do it for example<br> | |||
* we could also do workshops | * we could also do workshops | ||
<br> | |||
- Culture is here, occupy is the culture | - Culture is here, occupy is the culture | ||
<br> | |||
- Elise mentioned social entrepreneurship and provided resources on it & suggested Boston start something like Mondragon in Boston & a pool of money for social entreprises to start in Boston | - Elise mentioned social entrepreneurship and provided resources on it & suggested Boston start something like Mondragon in Boston & a pool of money for social entreprises to start in Boston | ||
- Boston Community Fund can help start a Boston Mondragon & see below for options Stacy provided for other sources of funding | <br> | ||
- Boston Community Fund can help start a Boston Mondragon & see below for options Stacy provided for other sources of funding<br> | |||
* Stacy speaks: | * Stacy speaks: | ||
- ICA group does consulting & some lending | - ICA group does consulting & some lending | ||
<br> | |||
- cooperative fund of new england & an equity fund | - cooperative fund of new england & an equity fund | ||
- they have a lot of money that they need to get out (collaterized loans) | <br> | ||
- Chomsky says that cooperation is inescapable and fundamental in nature, and we don;t have a choice but to give priority cooperation | - they have a lot of money that they need to get out (collaterized loans)<br> | ||
- Ghandi: primary intentions is belief, secondary intention and behavior | - Chomsky says that cooperation is inescapable and fundamental in nature, and we don;t have a choice but to give priority cooperation<br> | ||
- Ghandi: primary intentions is belief, secondary intention and behavior<br> | |||
* next steps/goals for next meeting: | * next steps/goals for next meeting:<br> | ||
- to have people talk about their organizations and businesses for ten minutes like Investor Circle in two sections | - to have people talk about their organizations and businesses for ten minutes like Investor Circle in two sections<br> | ||
- one those that are ready: .i.e. Liam, Elise, others to give advice, give feedback, brainstorm | - one those that are ready: .i.e. Liam, Elise, others to give advice, give feedback, brainstorm | ||
- those that are ideas to start | <br> | ||
- those that are ideas to start<br> | |||
* Terra to take a task to find co-ops that need workers & find a way for people that what to offer something, job board<br> | |||
* education platform (Elise) | * education platform (Elise)<br> | ||
* Stacy has a list of co-ops | * Stacy has a list of co-ops<br> | ||
* list resources of books etc, talent matching | * list resources of books etc, talent matching<br> | ||
* facilitator for next meeting | * facilitator for next meeting<br> | ||
* Terra proposed to get conference room with investors there for people to present or a smaller workshop for co-ops/social business proposals | * Terra proposed to get conference room with investors there for people to present or a smaller workshop for co-ops/social business proposals<br> | ||
* next step: to meet again in 2 weeks for us to talk about our plans or ideas for group feedback | * next step: to meet again in 2 weeks for us to talk about our plans or ideas for group feedback<br> | ||
* set up a doodle poll or email for meeting in 2 weeks | * set up a doodle poll or email for meeting in 2 weeks<br> | ||
* Bill Drayton tomorrow at harvard http://www.law.harvard.edu/calendar/opiaevents/?trumbaEmbed=view%3devent%26eventid%3d98634864 | * Bill Drayton tomorrow at harvard http://www.law.harvard.edu/calendar/opiaevents/?trumbaEmbed=view%3devent%26eventid%3d98634864 | ||
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Subject: todays notes Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:21:24 -0500 From: elise moussa <elise . moussa @ gmail . com>
Attendees: Elise, jk @ redsunpress.com, laurie . gta @ gmail . com, eric from allston, Monica Poole, Estelle, eli , Liam, Martin Dagoberto staceycordeiro @ gmail . com, terry mollner, bill @ billcimbrelo . com, Matt Carroll , Terra Friedrichs, john ford, Ravi Mishra Rene Perez
from Elise...
I would like to thank each and every one of you for connecting, sharing ideas, your passion and desire to make our world, our community a better place. Thank you
Here are tonight's notes:
To access, please create a google account and if I missed notes, feel free to edit. Note: you need a google email account I believe to access the notes. If you can't, please see the notes below. Thank you
- purpose of meeting
- connect
- $
- how
- needs
- intros (please insert your answers into the google notes)
- who are you?
- what do you want to do?
- what do you bring to the table?
- opportunities
- occupy the economy
- take movement to next phase
- education / using media
- close waste / loopholes
- beyond human capital
- full system thinking
- space
- progressive left splinters
- cultural zeitgeist
- taking advantage of "the brand"
- timing, widespread discontent
- lack of jobs
- need-survival
- crisis → obviously not sustainable
- co-ops are better
- hope of freedom from capitalist strategy
- freeing talent
- edge of the earth
- tech skills
- web
- document our experience to guide the next wave
- regionalism
- age of adaption
- solutions to bring to the movement
- grow power by sharing
- freedom from tyranny
- co-ops can start with little money / resources by growing together
- co-creation customers
- status quo no longer an option and its a matter of fact now that we have to do something different
- moment has come where we no longer point to the problems but devise solutions, co-ops, social enterprises to address social problems
- process of innovation and social contribution
- challenges
- how to structure
- no traditional stake
- “property”
- left splintered / ing
- tasks
- educate
- fine space to operate
- next meeting?
- find templates/case studies for successful operational models for the group to read/explore
- Resources
- Terry will send an article about the Mondragon cooperative
- lists of advice and funding shared onsite. see Social Enterprise Group page at the bottom for links. see also below
- operational models
- models for success
- everyone need separate building or desk, computers, experts
- talent
- list of questions for those seeking to start co-ops
- How to get money by Terry
- most people use money from friends & family, credit cards with 0%
- Boston Community Loan Fund – their job is to make loans to businesses 550 million all over the USA (Boston is one of most progressive ones)
- CDFI – nonprofits set up across USA that make loans to businesses in low income areas, but now anything that creates jobs is OK for them, especially cooperatives
- Terry is a founder of the Social investment $6 billion and loaned to many business only that are socially responsible companies
- we must plug in to the resources that already exist
- start with Boston Community Loan Fundraising
- Mondragon (umbrella to 250 co-ops) makes a loan to start a business always start with a grup of people, they choose a group that gorups chooses a member to get trained to run the business for 2 years and buy enough land around the factory, they person stays for 2 years to put business together
- what's so beautiful about what they do is no equity, 13%loan interest for first loan, second at 7% and stay with people, down to just giving money. If these fail: management, employees, capital product – they never abandon the original people so if product doesn't work out, they get a new product
- there is a ration of highest paid person (5:1)
- culture of joy so they retain talent
- take priority to common good, create more jobs
- because the workers own the company they aren't afraid of heirarchy (note that we could use different language – hierarchy by process NOT people)
- they gave priority to the social good and that's why they survived
- they treasure talent rather than be threatened by that
- they have their own school, university, you never get fired, when economy is bad, they send you back to school because that is a contribution to the common good
- capital flow is key
- note: doesn't have to be a co-operative as long as it has a priority for the common good
- the millions of people around the world that paid attention to Occupy said we are ready for the next stage of human evolution → we are all in this together, giving priority to the common good it's no longer about capitalism OR socialism (at full maturity that's why people responded)
- the human species is fully ready
- there are 3 stages:
- outrage first (occupy did it in 2 months, MLK in 10 years)
- unilateral action
- political resolution
- to get this out there, DO IT & pay attention to how you do it
- just how Laurie, Liam, & Elise do it for example
- we could also do workshops
- Culture is here, occupy is the culture
- Elise mentioned social entrepreneurship and provided resources on it & suggested Boston start something like Mondragon in Boston & a pool of money for social entreprises to start in Boston
- Boston Community Fund can help start a Boston Mondragon & see below for options Stacy provided for other sources of funding
- Stacy speaks:
- ICA group does consulting & some lending
- cooperative fund of new england & an equity fund
- they have a lot of money that they need to get out (collaterized loans)
- Chomsky says that cooperation is inescapable and fundamental in nature, and we don;t have a choice but to give priority cooperation
- Ghandi: primary intentions is belief, secondary intention and behavior
- next steps/goals for next meeting:
- to have people talk about their organizations and businesses for ten minutes like Investor Circle in two sections
- one those that are ready: .i.e. Liam, Elise, others to give advice, give feedback, brainstorm
- those that are ideas to start
- Terra to take a task to find co-ops that need workers & find a way for people that what to offer something, job board
- education platform (Elise)
- Stacy has a list of co-ops
- list resources of books etc, talent matching
- facilitator for next meeting
- Terra proposed to get conference room with investors there for people to present or a smaller workshop for co-ops/social business proposals
- next step: to meet again in 2 weeks for us to talk about our plans or ideas for group feedback
- set up a doodle poll or email for meeting in 2 weeks
- Bill Drayton tomorrow at harvard http://www.law.harvard.edu/calendar/opiaevents/?trumbaEmbed=view%3devent%26eventid%3d98634864