Talk:Logistics

no more room

user:lbethh Oct 6, 2011 4:27 am

it seems to me that the common is the logical choice. there is symmetry in occupying the "common" in the city where the revolution began.

re: no more room

user:yanikn Oct 6, 2011 7:25 am

Things to figure out before moving:

1) Utilities

   a. Bathrooms/Sanitation
   b. Electricity
   c. Internet

2. Legal Ramifications

re: no more room

user:lbethh Oct 6, 2011 7:41 am

isn't ows using gas generators? is it possible to find some donations, particularly from unions of construction crews....? also from unions - porta potty services...

internet access....something centralized ... cafe... not clear on resolution there, but sure tech savy could figure it out.

legal...hmmmmm...how so?

re: no more room

user:yanikn Oct 6, 2011 8:54 am

Are the cops going to come in and arrest everyone if you start squatting in Boston Commons, for example.

re: no more room

user:yanikn Oct 6, 2011 8:55 am

I meant occupying.

And then I know there are permits needed to run a generator. Permits that probably wouldn't be granted and then would become an excuse to shut down the occupation.

re: no more room

user:lbethh Oct 6, 2011 9:02 am

is it possible to send a group to the mayor to plead the case? perhaps with some prominent boston personalities, from the globe perhaps.. or from the union group...

including some from the roseway group to vouch for good behavior could only help

just a thought.

re: no more room

user:lbethh Oct 6, 2011 9:03 am

cause from what i am hearing, moving on down the line is the path that will cause a clamp down

re: no more room

user:jobelenus Oct 6, 2011 9:07 pm

i really like the though of boston common... the backside (beacon/charles) is used by groups often... but the front on tremont is usually wide open. I imagine they'd have a hard time kicking you off - both are owned by the city, and the city hasn't had a problem yet.

Though, with some research the common does technically have a curfew: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/08/30/curfew_targets_crime_on_common/

I've not heard anything recent about that...

have you guys thought about gov't center? granted it isn't a park - its pavement. but it is 1) directly in front of city hall, 2) really large, 3) foot traffic is greater there.

downsides; 1) it is actually used semi-often by groups/causes so space-conflicts could be a problem. 2) find a new way to stake/lockdown tents

i'll continue to try to think of other places as well.

re: no more room

[[user:

         ]] deuces_wild

How about the rest of the Greenway? Post Office Square would cause a stir!

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[[user:

         ]] jobelenus

Is P.O Sq. really any larger? I don't think it is.

Spreading the length of the greenway would be awesome as well.

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[[user:

         ]] bob_n

I think it had more to do with the size of the march and the success of the movement...if we could negotiate our way back to the north camp that'd be perfect, but after last night it's not likely. PO sq is smaller, much, and has next to no real open space

re: no more room

[[user:

         ]] lbethh

unfortunately it looks like a fight no matter where - mayor this morning told wbur "there is a time very shortly" when they are going to shut occupy down.

re: no more room

[[user:

         ]] jobelenus

I have to admit that I was moved watching Jamarhl http://blackstonian.com/news/2011/10/jamarhl-crawford-addresses-occupy-boston-1012/

If we cannot expand across the street along the greenway - is there anything preventing us from going into Roxbury? If we truly want to make this diverse and listen to them we should be there. And we should be there, not to have them join us - but as he said, for us to join them. Not to solve their problems, but to listen to their problems.

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user:http://blackstonian.com/news/2011/10/jamarhl-crawford-addresses-occupy-boston-1012/

what about the Charles River reservation, all the land along the Charles river. It is a state park, and since the Gov came to visit Dewey Square, maybe he'd not clamp down. If there is a clamp down, the state police have jurisdiction, but can always bring in Boston police. Just a thought.

Poles

user:dsws Oct 7, 2011 4:06 pm

The list says poles/posts. What diameter and length are needed? What are they needed for?

(I brought half a dozen 8' 1x2s the other day.)